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19 Oct 11 - 06:31 AM (#3241188) Subject: BS: Conservative local government cuts From: Richard Bridge http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/oct/19/councils-privatise-oxford-save-our-services |
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19 Oct 11 - 06:43 AM (#3241194) Subject: RE: BS: Conservative local government cuts From: Bonzo3legs You choose as usual, to ignore the dire overspending of Labour over 13 years. |
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19 Oct 11 - 07:38 AM (#3241214) Subject: RE: BS: Conservative local government cuts From: Dave Hanson Oi Boko, you can't go on blaming Labour for everything forever, but seeing as it's you, you probably will. Dave H |
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19 Oct 11 - 07:53 AM (#3241217) Subject: RE: BS: Conservative local government cuts From: GUEST,Bluesman Cleaning up the mess left by a Labour government. |
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19 Oct 11 - 08:34 AM (#3241245) Subject: RE: BS: Conservative local government cuts From: Dave MacKenzie A lot of the mess goes back to the Heath government of 1971! |
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19 Oct 11 - 09:24 AM (#3241275) Subject: RE: BS: Conservative local government cuts From: Leadfingers It WAS Heath who pushed us into Bloody Europe ! The Referendum was for an Economic Community NOT a Federation of European States |
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19 Oct 11 - 10:13 AM (#3241300) Subject: RE: BS: Conservative local government cuts From: Dave MacKenzie That's not what I meant. Although I probably benefited personally from the 'liberalisation' of the banking market. The main problem with Europe has been its doctrinaire adherance to the 'free market'. |
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19 Oct 11 - 10:15 AM (#3241302) Subject: RE: BS: Conservative local government cuts From: GUEST,Bluesman We all want this country sorted out, yes there will have to be painful cuts in services to balance the books. Labour created this mess, get real. |
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19 Oct 11 - 10:31 AM (#3241309) Subject: RE: BS: Conservative local government cuts From: Dave MacKenzie "The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous." Joseph Goebbels, 1941 |
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19 Oct 11 - 10:37 AM (#3241317) Subject: RE: BS: Conservative local government cuts From: BTNG and tell the lie often enough and it becomes the truth, the Nazis were brilliant at that. |
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19 Oct 11 - 10:37 AM (#3241318) Subject: RE: BS: Conservative local government cuts From: GUEST,999 Uh huh! |
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19 Oct 11 - 11:26 AM (#3241348) Subject: RE: BS: Conservative local government cuts From: Richard Bridge Following intervening events, please now redirect discussion regarding this thread here – to my original "Nobody likes a Tory" thread - thread.cfm?threadid=140808#reply It will save multiple postings of the same objections to criticisms of conservatism. |
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19 Oct 11 - 03:10 PM (#3241466) Subject: RE: BS: Conservative local government cuts From: VirginiaTam As part of my council job (lowly business support) I manage a load of volunteers who in effect are taking real work away from qualified professionals. Also I should know just before Christmas if my post is going away as business support is being restructured into one service with service level agreements to the myriad services they support. Lots of redundancies and lots of downgrades. The effect of the cuts will mean that managers, officers, social workers, etc. who actually deliver services to the public will be tasked with doing much more of the business support work (filing, answering phones, minute taking, arranging meetings and travel, ordering goods and services) for themselves because there will not be the support staff to do it. More time doing admin work mean less time delivering services. Eventually every service will be expected to become self supporting financially too, which means commissioning (managing services and projects for other authorities) and going traded company and selling service back to the council. We know what the grand plan in our council has been for a long time. Just one small very highly paid top level organisation, contracting with external businesses for all public service provision. We have also seen how this model fails, especially for vulnerable people. Once the council removes itself from the direct service provision they can easily wriggle out of failings of private companies to deliver the provision. Care homes come to mind. |