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06 Jun 16 - 02:27 PM (#3794126) Subject: Lyr Add: Suantraidhe (Seoithin Seotho) From: keberoxu SUANTRAIDHE / SUANTRAI [music: traditional, Connemara; written down by Tomás Mac Domhnall] [lyrics: Rev. Professor T. O'Kelly, U.C.Galway, pen-name 'Ibh Maine'] curfa: Seoithín, seothó, mo stóir é mo leanabh, mo sheod gan chealag, mo chuid de'n traoghal mhór Seoithín, seothó, nach mór é an taithneamh, mo stóirín 'n-a leabaidh 'n-a chodladh gan brón Melody continues/changes with this quatrain: A leanabh mo chléibh, go n-éirighid do chodladh leat Séan agus sonas a choidhche 'do chomhair Seo beannacht Mhic Dé agus téagair a bhuime leat Téirigh a chodladh gan bíodhgadh go ló (repeat curfa?? unclear here) Second stanza, melody from beginning (curfa), two quatrains: Ar mhullach an tSidhe tá sídheoga geala Fá chaoin-ré an earraigh ag imirt a spóirt 'S seo iad aniar chun glaoidh ar mo leanbh Le mian é tharraingt isteach san lios mór *** (melody change) Goirim thú, a chroidhe, ní bhfuigh' siad do mhealladh Le brígh a gcleas ná le binneas a gceoil Tá mise led' thaoibh ag guidhe ort na mbeannacht Seoithín, a leanbh, ní imtheo tú leo curfa pp. 66 - 67, Amhráin Mhuighe Seóla. Traditional Folk-Songs from Galway and Mayo. Collected and edited by Mrs. Costello, Tuam. Dublin: The Candle Press, 1919. © The Irish Folk Song Society |
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06 Jun 16 - 02:48 PM (#3794129) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Suantraidhe (Seoithin Seotho) From: keberoxu Existing threads of traditional Irish song already include a thread which is titled "Seothin seo-h-o," as followers of Gaelic lyrics will have noticed at Mudcat. Before starting this new thread, I carefully reviewed the existing thread which is many years old. It is a fact that some of the lyrics, in this thread's OP, may be spotted on the earlier thread. It is also a fact that the earlier "Seothin seo-h-o" thread contains two, three, or more OTHER lullaby-lyrics which contain the words in the thread title, but are different lyrics and are sung to different tunes entirely. The earlier thread, it follows, is actually a multi-song thread. My objective, in starting this "Suantraidhe" thread, is a particular focus on the cradle-song edited by Mrs. Eileen Costello and published in 1921 in her anthology. In the years since this particular lyric was printed with this traditional music -- a tune so well-known that it sometimes goes by "Connemara Lullaby," and is as often hummed wordlessly as sung -- numerous performers have adopted this version, and more than one sound recording exists, especially with these Gaelic words. Therefore, this version deserves its very own thread. To substantiate the authorship attributed to the Gaelic lyrics in the original post on this thread, here is a quote from the same source, the Amhráin Mhuige Seóla, from commentary by editor Eileen Costello (also identified as Eibhlín Bean Mhic Choisdealbha). "...the Rev. Professor T. O'Kelly ('ibh Maine'), U.C., Galway, who composed the verses which I have given with the air. He has kindly given me permission to use them for this collection. " (page 67) |
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06 Jun 16 - 03:07 PM (#3794130) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Suantraidhe (Seoithin Seotho) From: keberoxu My oversight, my apologies: there is a third verse actually. Here it is, both quatrains. Os comhair mo laoigh, go míochair cean' mhail Tá díl-ruisg aingeal ag faire 'n-a thréo Le mór-ghrádh dian 'ghá iarraidh chun bealaigh Mar b'aoibhne flaithís dá rachadh sé leo *** A stóir mo chroidhe, luigh siar in do leabaidh Le taoibhe do mhaime 'seadh fhanfair go fóill Ní mór dham le Dia mo shiamsa 'gus m'aiteas Mo Ríoghacht art alamh i dteannta mo bhróid (curfa) |
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06 Jun 16 - 04:45 PM (#3794138) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Suantraidhe (Seoithin Seotho) From: keberoxu The "Amhráin Mhuighe Seóla" prints this translation of the preceding. curfa / chorus Shoheen, shoho, my child is my treasure, My jewel without guile, my share of the world, Shoheen, shoho, how great is the delight, My little treasure in his bed, asleep without sorrow. remainder of verse 1: Child of my bosom, may thy sleep thrive with you Happiness and luck be ever in store for you May the blessing of the Son of God, and the love of His nurse, be with you Go to sleep without start till day both quatrains, verse 2: On the Hill of the Sidhe are shining fairies Under the fair moon of spring playing their games And here they come eastward to call to my child Wishing to lure him into the great fort *** I call thee, my heart! They shall not entice you By dint of their tricks, nor by the sweetness of their music I am by your side praying blessings for you Shoheen my child you will not go with them both quatrains, verse 3: Before my darling sweet and gentle Kind angel eyes are gazing upon him With great strong love inviting him away For Heaven would be more delightful for them if he went with them *** Treasure of my heart! Lie down in thy bed Beside your mama you will abide still God does not grudge me my play and my pleasure My Heaven on earth along with my darling (from pp. 66 - 67) "...the Rev. Dean Malachy Eaton, of Maynooth, who assisted me from the beginning, [] very kindly took upon himself the whole burden of correction and translation....He tells me that in the work of translation [...] he had the assistance of numerous helpers, and that they do not ask for any thanks from me. The knowledge, apparently, that they may have been instrumental in saving even a few of the old songs is sufficient recompense for them." --page xiii, Preface, by editor Eileen Costello, Amhráin Mhuighe Seóla / Traditional Folk-Songs from Galway and Mayo |
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06 Jun 16 - 08:57 PM (#3794163) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Suantraidhe (Seoithin Seotho) From: leeneia Those are beautiful words, keberoxu. |
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07 Jun 16 - 01:28 PM (#3794278) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Suantraidhe (Seoithin Seotho) From: keberoxu Is there a MIDI file of this tune? Because there ought to be one -- it is a well-known simple melody that most people will recognize on hearing, even if they can't place it. Many recordings exist of it, from Roisin Elsafty (sp?) to Maire Ni Scolai; even country singers have recorded it. |
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07 Jun 16 - 06:46 PM (#3794319) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Suantraidhe (Seoithin Seotho) From: GUEST,Philippa Peggy and Bobby Clancy recorded an English language version of this song. If it were me, I think I would have added these lyrics to an existing seothín seo thread, rather than starting a new one. modern spelling is Suantraí - generic term for a lullabye Yes, you spelled Roisín Elsafty's name correctly. I think her father is Egyptian. |
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07 Jun 16 - 06:58 PM (#3794322) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Suantraidhe (Seoithin Seotho) From: GUEST,Philippa also goltraí - a sad song, a lament and geantraí - a lively song, a happy song Peg Clancy Power maybe I'm mistaken, I dont see the song listed on this discography https://www.discogs.com/Peg-Bobby-Clancy-Songs-From-Ireland/release/4951600 Seothín seo ho My wonderful treasure My share of this world, My sleep smiling boy How fond my delight How great is my pleasure, To cradle you so is my greatest of joy A leanbh, a chroí, sleep on without fear God does not grudge me my fortune I know For he'd not want to his angels rejoicing While I'd weep in sorrow, Seothín seothín seo |
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07 Jun 16 - 07:08 PM (#3794327) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Suantraidhe (Seoithin Seotho) From: GUEST,Philippa 5-Seothín Seo (Lullaby) traditional. Beth Gadbaw, vocals; Jessie Burns, fiddle & backing vocals; Margot Krimmel, Celtic harp & backing vocals. This is one of my daughters' favorites to sing along with in the car. I learned the English from the singing of Peg Power, the Irish from a recording by Susan McKeown & Cathie Ryan. http://www.bethgadbaw.com/album-notes Maybe you can find Muireann Nic Amhlaoibh's recording, in Irish, of Seoithín Seo http://www.celticlyricscorner.net/amhlaoibh/seoithin.htm |
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07 Jun 16 - 07:18 PM (#3794330) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Suantraidhe (Seoithin Seotho) From: GUEST,Philippa there are transcriptions from MMario for tunes of various suantraí with the line "seoithín seo" on aprevious thread , admittedly a very long thread. And Michael R gives a link to youtube recording by Róisín Elsafty |