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Once I had a Sunshine

27 Dec 19 - 11:57 AM (#4025106)
Subject: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Mrrzy

"Once I had a sweetheart", as sung by Cynthia Gooding, says:

One night in sweet slumber I dreamed I did see
My own dearest jewel sat smiling by me
But when I awakened I found it not so
My eyes like some fountain with tears overflow

"You are my sunshine" says:

The other night, dear, as I lay sleeping
I dreamed I held you in my arms
But when I woke, dear, I was mistaken
So I hanged my head and cried.

Same? Are there others? Thanks.


30 Dec 19 - 11:55 AM (#4025498)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Mrrzy

Aw come on, guys, real question...


30 Dec 19 - 12:03 PM (#4025501)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: keberoxu

Well, Mrrzy dear, let others rush in;
this post will look at what you submitted.

And here, I think, is Cynthia Gooding's lyric.

Once I had a sweetheart (no mention of sunshine)


30 Dec 19 - 01:10 PM (#4025511)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: GUEST,Starship

Try "I once had a sweetheart". It was done by Baez in 1962.


30 Dec 19 - 01:34 PM (#4025517)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Reinhard

I Once Had a True Love by Paddy Tunney.


30 Dec 19 - 07:36 PM (#4025565)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Mrrzy

The title amalgamated You are my sunshine and Once I had a sweetheart.


31 Dec 19 - 08:53 AM (#4025640)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Mrrzy

The question is about the identical verse in the two songs. Same song?


31 Dec 19 - 09:16 AM (#4025643)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: GUEST,HiLo

I see no similarity at all. I have listened to both , Mrrzy , and I cannot see how you think they are at all alike...sorry !


31 Dec 19 - 09:19 AM (#4025645)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Mrrzy

They have that identical part I quoted in my apparently terribly unclear opening post.


31 Dec 19 - 09:22 AM (#4025646)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: GUEST,Starship

There are so many take-offs and interpretations of YAMS it's almost like making sweet potato pie. Everyone comes along and tweaks the recipe for the next person they pass it along to. The result six iterations later is poutine where the pie used to be. The following article is worth the read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Are_My_Sunshine


31 Dec 19 - 09:39 AM (#4025648)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: GUEST,HiLo

They may share a similar sentiment, but, to me they are very different. Many songs share this theme of dreaming of love..then waking to no love at all. Just my view...


31 Dec 19 - 10:30 AM (#4025659)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Mrrzy

HiLo, I tried to think of others and failed. Examples?


31 Dec 19 - 10:34 AM (#4025661)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: GUEST,Nick Dow

A version of Sally sat weeping I think.


31 Dec 19 - 11:49 AM (#4025677)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: keberoxu

Robert Schumann's setting is the best known, but this poem
by Heinrich Heine is a foundation text of the German Lied.

English translation by Louis Untermeyer, early 1900's.

[Ich hab' im Traum geweinet]

I wept as I lay dreaming,
I dreamed that you had died.
And, when I woke, the tear-drops
Clung to my cheeks undried.

I wept as I lay dreaming,
I dreamed you were false to me.
I woke, and for many hours
Lay weeping bitterly.

I wept as I lay dreaming,
I dreamed that your love was true.
I woke, to an endless weeping,
And the endless thought of you.


31 Dec 19 - 12:17 PM (#4025686)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Mrrzy

I looked up Sally sat weeping and it turns into a totally different Cynthia Gooding song! A maiden sat a-weeping down by the seaside. Fascinating!


31 Dec 19 - 01:57 PM (#4025713)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: robomatic

When I want you in the night
And I want you to hold me tight
Whenever I want you all I have to do is dream
Dream dream dream.


31 Dec 19 - 02:15 PM (#4025719)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: GUEST,HiLo

Hello again Mrrzy, I just reread an earlier post of yours where you suggest that there are “ identical “ verses, I truly do fail to see any”identical” verses.am I missing something ?
In Dreams by Roy Orbison has a similar theme.


31 Dec 19 - 04:39 PM (#4025728)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: GUEST,keberoxu

Somebody ought to stand up for the OP here.

No, each verse in total has differences,
but there are lines within each verse
that form a striking parallel,
which have the same emotional resonance.

particularly:
"But when I woke ... "


31 Dec 19 - 04:49 PM (#4025730)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: meself

What is being asked about, I believe, is the business of, in four lines, presenting the image of the speaker being blissfully in the company of the loved one, waking and finding that was a dream, and then crying. Perhaps the OP is also wondering if one of the examples influenced the other? To which I would say, maybe yes, maybe no - there are similarities, but they could well be coincidental.


02 Jan 20 - 10:03 AM (#4025937)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Mrrzy

Yes, which is why these other examples are so interesting.


03 Jan 20 - 03:10 PM (#4026186)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: GUEST,keberoxu

Then there is the bona-fide traditional song
about the man relating the dream he had
of his beloved, from whom he was separated.

Synopsis:
he dreamed he saw his love all dressed in white
and she spoke no word and made no sound
'and then I knew my love was dead.'


04 Jan 20 - 07:55 AM (#4026288)
Subject: RE: Once I had a Sunshine
From: Mrrzy

Ooh I think I knew that from a ghost ballad somewhere...