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15 Aug 00 - 06:09 AM (#278046) Subject: Lancashire lads From: GUEST,barrie mathers Anyone have the words to a song whose chorus is:- Oh , the Lancashire lads are comming Whatever shall we do? Leaving many a pretty maid to cry "What shall I do?" |
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15 Aug 00 - 06:27 AM (#278054) Subject: Lyr Add: LANCASHIRE LADS From: John J It goes sommat like this:
Said a mother to her daughter, “What makes you talk so strange,
CHO: The Lancashire lads have gone abroad. Whatever shall I do?
For soldiers are but rambling lads and get but little pay,
Said a mother to her daughter, “I'll have you close confined.
“Should you confine me seven long years and afterwards set me fre,
“My love he is dressed in scarlet and he marches with the blues,
We'll get sweethearts enough, me boys, and girls that'll please our minds,
Hope this helps! |
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15 Aug 00 - 08:56 AM (#278117) Subject: Lyr Add: LANCASHIRE LADS From: GUEST,joan from wigan I can't believe I couldn't find this in the database, it has been so well known hereabouts - it must be over thirty years since I first heard it, and I thought everyone must know it! My copy goes: LANCASHIRE LADS
Oh it was last Monday morning as I have heard them say |
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15 Aug 00 - 09:28 AM (#278135) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lancashire lads From: Jon Freeman Joan, I didn't believe you that it wasn't in the DT but I can't find it either. I quite like the Star of the County Down idea. Jon |
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15 Aug 00 - 09:44 AM (#278140) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lancashire lads From: Ringer Dave Burland sings a version (don't I remember having heard that it was Nic Jones' version?) which has an extra (first) verse: I'm going for a soldier, Jenny, and it doesn't have a chorus, either. As to whether it's sung to Star of County Down I can't comment, for I don't know that tune. |
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15 Aug 00 - 11:51 AM (#278187) Subject: Lyr Add: THE LANCASHIRE FUSILIER From: GUEST,joan from wigan Bald Eagle, I recognise the verse you quote as coming from a completely separate song, which I sometimes tack onto the end of Lancashire Lads as they have the same rhythm and can be sung in the same key. I took the words down in time-honoured fashion from a Houghton Weavers LP, and some of them are simply the nearest sense I could make: THE LANCASHIRE FUSILIER I'm going for a soldier, Jenny I'm off to the rolling sea They've given me a golden guinea Which they say has enlisted me Chorus: I'm off to fight for the army As a Lancashire Fusilier Rolling my musket in my arms Instead of my Jenny dear No use to keep on crying I'll heed your tears no more For many's the day you've heard me say You should've been kind before With heart and spirits sinking But if I should come to shame You must know that I'm thinking Your love will be to blame You must know that I love you You must full well have known If my faith it had just proved true I would never have restless grown Fare thee well, the hours are flying And it's time that I was gone When another heart you're trying, Jenny Look into your own This is another song I was very surprised I couldn't find in the DT. Joan |
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15 Aug 00 - 01:12 PM (#278234) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lancashire lads From: Ringer I think I may have mis-remembered the word "shilling", which I believe D Burland sings as "guinea". Was a guinea ever the sum used to mark the contract when someone enlisted? |
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15 Aug 00 - 02:09 PM (#278278) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lancashire lads From: GUEST,joan from wigan Bald Eagle, although the "King's Shilling" was the original fee for enlisting, it has increased over the years, along with everything else - inflation is not a new phenomenon. I'm not sure what the current fee is, but it is certainly feasible that at some stage in the past it could well have been a guinea. Does anyone have more specific information? Joan |
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15 Aug 00 - 05:49 PM (#278391) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lancashire lads From: Susanne (skw) I do suppose songs were updated in this way. Whereas Joan's version above has 'fourteen pence a day', Finbar and Eddie Furey, on their 'Farewell Album', sang 'eighteen pence a day'. I also have a very good version by the Old Blind Dogs on 'Legacy', but I haven't got the words ready so can't check their position in the inflation chain ... - Susanne |
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16 Aug 00 - 11:02 AM (#278823) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lancashire lads From: GUEST,barrie (nottinham) Many thanks to Joan, John J, Jon Freeman, Bald Eagle, et al for the info on Lancashire. I'm also digging back 30 years or more on this! |
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20 Apr 01 - 06:39 AM (#445197) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lancashire lads From: GUEST,John Hill I always sing this to the Irish aire "My love Nell" the same as Mike Harding.. (The Star of the County Down is just another song that has used this tune in recent times) |
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20 Apr 01 - 09:15 AM (#445263) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lancashire lads From: Keith A of Hertford The Recruited Collier refers to "the golden guinea" (A shilling was not gold but silver) The shilling would be a day's pay. Recruits do still get payed for the day they enlist but it is simply their first day of service now. An extra bounty was often given as an inducement to enlist and this would be the guinea of these songs. Keith. |
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20 Apr 01 - 12:47 PM (#445419) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lancashire lads From: Malcolm Douglas For more on the Scottish tune Gilderoy, which spread throughout England and Ireland and was used by Cathal McGarvey for his new song, Star of the County Down around 1920 or so, see, amongst others, this thread: Songs to Star of the County Down Apparantly, the song My Love Nell, which John Hill referred to above, was written by William Carleton (in the 1860s?), to the same traditional air, which he knew as "Come All Ye". Carleton was a stage entertainer in America who apparantly specialised in Irish subjects, often comic; not to be confused, I assume, with the popular Irish novelist of the same name who lived around the same period. There is a songsheet at the Library of Congress America Singing collection: My Love Nell Malcolm |
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21 Apr 01 - 12:54 PM (#446121) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lancashire lads From: Metchosin Old Blind Dogs does a mighty fine version of this on their Legacy CD |
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22 Mar 07 - 11:26 AM (#2004080) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lancashire lads From: dumbo I remember The Pendlefolk performing this song back in the 70's (Royal Hotel Waterfoot) I wander what Roger's doing these days also Peter Nash a tidy player |
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12 Jun 24 - 06:57 AM (#4203800) Subject: Dave Bulmer From: GUEST |
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13 Jun 24 - 02:13 AM (#4203841) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lancashire Lads From: GUEST,henryp From Mainly Norfolk, with thanks; Dave Burland sang The Lancashire Lads and Going for a Soldier, Jenny in 1996 on his CD Benchmark. He noted: The Lancashire Lads and Going for a Soldier, Jenny were broadsides which were reworked by a group called The Halliard, which had in its members Dave Moran and Nic Jones. Nic wrote the tune to Going for a Soldier Jenny [and added the chorus], and Dave wrote the tune to The Lancashire Lads. According to Dave Moran on the goldilox website; "Nic [Jones] and I and mandolin/guitar player Nigel Paterson made up the Halliard. We were looking to develop some new music and we took the advice of song-writer Leslie Shepard. We decided to add tunes to Broadsides that we discovered, uncovered or collected – we checked out the Harkness Collection at Preston and the collections in Manchester etc. We also used Ashton's Street Ballads and Victorian Street Ballads (Henderson) and on a couple of occasions we dipped into Thomas D'Urfey's Pills to Purge Melancholy that is where we found Mad Maudlin (Tom of Bedlam or the Boys of Bedlam). Nic and I wrote all the tunes together usually sitting in the front of the Mini and singing and working out tunes as we drove – as the mandolin was the smallest instrument and Nigel was in the back, he always played the tunes. |
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17 Jun 24 - 06:39 PM (#4204068) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Lancashire Lads From: GeoffLawes Lancashire Lads - with new words written for the play "Dare Devil Rides to Jarama " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDshdqSfuFk The musical director of"Dare Devil Rides to Jarama" was John Kirkpatrick. |