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05 Jun 01 - 03:44 AM (#476591) Subject: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler While sorting out her attic my sister-in-law came across a lot of family music. Most of it has gone to local choirs etc but one item Herself rescued was one of her childhood pieces. It is the Spring Term 1958 BBC Schools Singing Together and Rhythm & Melody. It contains: Bonny blue-eyed sailor (Dunhill/Fyleman) Water of Tyne (Northumbrian folk song) Wraggle Taggle Gipsies (English folk song) Early one morning (English trad.) Ye Banks and braes (Burns/trad) Planting Trees (Plannu Coed, Welsh folk song Eng. Words by Imogen Holst) Wandering Miller (Schubert trans. Miller) The Keeper (Warwickshire folk song arr.Sharp) Drummer and the cook (capstan shanty) Kathleen Tyrell (Irish folk song trans Fiske) Haul away Joe (foresheet shanty) Shepherdess (French folk song arr. Whitred) Shady Grove (Square dance from Kentucky) Waley Waley (Folk song from Somerset arr Sharp) Migildi Magildi (Welsh folk song ,Eng words by Dobbs) Lieutenant Kije (Prokofiev) Song of Lieutenant Kije (Russian folk tune, words by Whitred) I realise most of these will be familiar to folkies but I can post the words to any that might be of interest. I could also photocopy the music of any of them and post or fax to any one interested, I can't do the music on my work PC. RtS (I wonder if today's primary (elementary) schools do such a range of folkie music?)
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05 Jun 01 - 05:24 AM (#476623) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Billy the Bus RtS, About half the songs you list were current in NZ schools (well the ones I went to) in the 50s. Doubt any of our primary schools would include any in their "sing-a-long" repertoire nowdays. Oh, for the good old days... Sam
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05 Jun 01 - 06:54 AM (#476648) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Llanfair D'you know, Roger, I'm pretty sure I've got that one somewhere!!!! I have a vivid memory of getting ready to go to Brownies(!!!)and there was snow on the ground outside, which is unusual for Manchester. I was singing "The Keeper" at the top of my voice. I don't think I've sung it since, but I can remember most of it!! Thanks for the reminder, Cheers, Bron. |
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05 Jun 01 - 08:40 AM (#476690) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Patrish(inactive) The memories are so strong, I can just about remember a good 50% of the songs on your list. My time with singing together is really 1960's Can anyone remember such pearls as "the pigeons in the market Square" or "11 playing cricket, tip it and run" But we also did "the keeper" and many more main stream folk stuff Great memories - thanks Roger love Patrish |
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05 Jun 01 - 09:04 AM (#476707) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Snuffy Bostin' stuff, Rog. I haven't sung The Keeper since ... last night in the pub. But then I live in Warwickshire, anyway. And I sang 'Early One Morning' in the pub at about 8am on May Day - we'd been dancing at 5.30 Wassail! V |
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05 Jun 01 - 09:53 AM (#476731) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Jon Freeman Oh Well, In for a penny... as they say, I've been meaning to work out what I have got in Sining Together pamphlets for years. I seem to have lost a few of mine but the list of songs I can find is:
A New Song On The Taxes (Ireland) Jon |
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05 Jun 01 - 10:02 AM (#476736) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Lyndi-loo Wow that's impressive. All I can remember singing in school was Dashing away with the smoothing iron Soldier soldier won't you marry me Hob y Deri Dando Ffarwel i Blwy Llangower Bugeilio'r Gwenith Gwyn |
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05 Jun 01 - 10:10 AM (#476741) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: JulieF I remember the singing together programmes about 1968-early 70s. I went to a very small village school where three years were taught together. The teacher used to wheel in the radio from her house for the programme. Each year there was a new set of songs which were mainly folk songs from around the world with the odd one thrown in ( eg Football crazy. All the best Julie |
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05 Jun 01 - 10:10 AM (#476742) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler ...and the winner is....(opens golden envelope). John Freeman of Norfolk! Big hand, folks, for Jon for saving/acquiring so many of these (surely you're too young to have owned them, Jon?)and reviving many memories of sitting cross-legged on the floor listening to the sounds coming out of the big speaker! RtS |
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05 Jun 01 - 10:31 AM (#476753) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Jon Freeman Roger, '58 Is too early for me - I'm the same as JulieF, except the teacher didn't bring a radio from home. The earliest pamphlet I have is Spring '67 and the latest, summer '86 but there are some gaps. I would guess I got my collection in about 1988. I got them from Hayden Smith who used to sing in the North Wales folk clubs and teach guitar around the local the schools. I think he used to grab any song books that were being thrown out of the schools he taught in. Jon |
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05 Jun 01 - 11:54 AM (#476800) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Brian Hoskin I don't know whether it was the singing together programme, I certainly remember at my junior school in the mid-1970s that we had singing sessions along to some radio programme. A lot of the songs on Jon's list might have been sung, but the only one I definitely recall singing is Ol' Zip Coon (hard to think now that this was deemed appropriate for 1970s British schoolrooms!). Brian |
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06 Jun 01 - 09:31 AM (#477483) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Ringer I date my love of English folksong from Monday Mornings at 11.00am and Singing Together with William Appleby (about 1954 to 59). We always used to hear the sign-off tune from Workers' Playtime beforehand. And Rhythm and Melody on Wednesday, Time & Tune on Friday, same time. And Music and Movement on Tuesdays & Thursdays, but I'm less enamoured of the memory of that! Happy days. |
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06 Jun 01 - 05:20 PM (#477841) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Kernow John The school I work at was throwing all their copies of 'Singing Together' out a couple of years back. I managed to salvage a whole box full. If I list the sets available would anyone in UK like to make a donation to the 'cat in exchange for a set? I'll pay postage and packing to get them to you. I don't need to know how much you donate just that you have. KJ |
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29 Aug 03 - 12:21 PM (#1010298) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: MMario Hey Jon! got the lyrics for Hunting the Hare? |
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29 Aug 03 - 01:59 PM (#1010355) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Jeanie It looks as though he has, MMario. I've just put a reference to this thread on the "Hunting the Hare" one. I went to a very old-fashioned private "dame school", run by Misses Norman and Pluck, who had a maidservant called Grace who wore Victorian-style maid's clothes. I am not *that* old - this was in the 1960's - but the place was in a lovely time warp ! As well as "The Keeper" and "Three times round went our gallant ship" and so on, we also sang (and acted out) a song which I have never since been able to find: Old Roger is dead and laid in his grave Hey, ho, hobbledy ho We buried him under the apple tree shade Hey, ho, hobbledy ho Then there was a bit about an old woman coming and picking apples from the tree and Old Roger getting up from the grave and scaring the old lady. Does anyone else know this one ? Another one we used to do was "We've come to see Jenny Jo" - the gist of it was that you had to wear clothes of different colours depending on the state Jenny Jo was in, and it ended with her dying and everyone wearing black. Wonderful Victorian sentimentality. Anyone know that one ? - jeanie |
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29 Aug 03 - 02:25 PM (#1010366) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Malcolm Douglas There's a text for Poor Roger in an earlier discussion: Poor Roger. That particular one is an example from Ireland, but it was common throughout Britain and the North of America in various forms and under numerous names (number 797 in the Roud Folk Song Index). The second one turns up as Jenny Jones, Jilly Joe, Janet Jo, and so on. Again, it was quite widespread over the same sort of areas (Roud 1047). There's another children's song, Jenny Jenkins, which retains the basic form while dropping the plot, so there is no death or funeral. I don't know if it derives from the other, but it wouldn't be surprising. Several examples are in this thread: Jenny Jenkins. |
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29 Aug 03 - 02:49 PM (#1010383) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Jeanie Thanks, Malcolm, that's wonderful ! It's great to see those Old Roger lyrics again - all the little boys in the kindergarten used to fight over wanting to be the old chap giving the lady a kick - some of them were quite vicious, as I remember. I always preferred to play the part of the apple tree. - jeanie |
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29 Aug 03 - 04:32 PM (#1010417) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Jackie There's a blast from the past ! What a great idea that was. Do they have an equivalent now ? I am from Glasgow, and when the kids from our local primary school were told to go home and ask their mums and dads what songs they would like to be taught at school their answer was Matt McGinn songs. |
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29 Aug 03 - 04:34 PM (#1010418) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Jon Mmario, I have very few pamphlets here at the moment and the odds are I don't have that one. The good news is that Dave has finished scanning my set. See this folkinfo post for the lastest I know. |
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29 Aug 03 - 06:52 PM (#1010467) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: lady penelope I was 7 in '73 and we sang from 'singing together" for '60 something. But we only ever sang the same three songs or something and by that time there was an 'educational programme' that went with it. This changed into 'Music Time' by the time I was 9. They had scores that the relevant notes lit up as the music played. Aaaah, they don't make 'em like they used to...... TTFN Lady P. |
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20 Jan 07 - 01:00 PM (#1942564) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Elinor I'm trying to find a copy of the Welsh words of Migildi, Magildi - I know the first verse but I would like to learn the others - do you have a copy you could send to me? I'd be VERY grateful Thank you |
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20 Jan 07 - 01:08 PM (#1942575) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: The Sandman yes I remember burYIng, roger under the old apple tree,About 1958. we sang the Girl I left behind me,o no john,Boney was a warrior,early one morning, thankyou Malcolm Douglas |
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20 Jan 07 - 04:39 PM (#1942750) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: DMcG The Welsh words of Migildi, Magildi? Try |
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20 Jan 07 - 04:41 PM (#1942754) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: DMcG Oops! I meant try here |
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20 Jan 07 - 05:53 PM (#1942806) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Geoff the Duck DMcG You seem to have entered some form of timewarp or loop. Did you mean to link to Jon Freemans site, Folkinfo.org? Try this one http://www.folkinfo.org/songs/displaysong.php?songid=652. Quack! Geoff. |
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20 Jan 07 - 06:03 PM (#1942810) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: bubblyrat We must have been on a different wave-length in Easebourne,near Midhurst,Sussex,where I was at Primary School in 1958(aged 10 ) ---The songs I remember best were The Ash Grove...Westering Home...Johnny come down to Hilo...The Golden Vanity...The Lincolnshire Poacher...The Minstrel Boy....All Through the Night--- Well,the headmaster was a Welshman ( Mr Bevan,isn"t it?? ) & yes,Folk Music was Compulsory (I am very glad to say !!) |
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23 Jan 07 - 04:46 PM (#1945895) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' lyrics of Brave Topolini From: GUEST,sarahcalico I'm trying to find the lyrics of Brave Topolini. I remember learning it at school and would love to teach it to my little boy. I've hunted high and low and this is just about the only place I've found that mentions the title. If anyone can help, I'd really appreciate it. Thank you |
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23 Jan 07 - 05:07 PM (#1945911) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: DMcG Thanks for sorting out my second attempt, Geoff. I do seem to have got into a timewarp. The problem with cutting and pasting links from tabbed browsers is that you do seem to be "in a maze of twisty passages all alike". (Actually, I PM'd someone within minutes of those posts and posted a faulty link there as well. It must have been a bad day.) |
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23 Jan 07 - 05:12 PM (#1945918) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: DMcG And in answer to sarahcalico's post - I'll post the lyrics of Brave Topolini in a day or two, unless someone else does so first. |
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24 Feb 07 - 05:46 AM (#1977758) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,maggie.sullivan Couldn't believe my eyes. asked google bout bbc pamphlets and found your site. I was born '57 (Lancs)but was using singing together pretty soon after that. So was a Scottish collegue born 10 years later. You wondered if any schools still did 'folk' type songs -that's the reaason I am trying to find if booklets are still around. We want to teach children in our school something'new'! Grateful for any donations, especilly if music is acompanied as we have another teacher who loves to play all kinds of songs. School address c/o Maggie Sullivan St Anthony's R.C. Primary School Genoa Road Anerly London SE20 8ES school e-mail maggie.sullivan@st-anthonys.bromley.sch.uk |
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24 Feb 07 - 11:42 AM (#1977993) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: DMcG Ok, it took more than a day or two, but here are the lyrics of Brave Topolini anyway: Crowding the streets of Roma Motor car chariots go by, Brave Topolini, vroom, vroom, va-ra! Brave Topolini, vroom, vroom, va-ra! Trumpet-toned horns are sounding, Bright as the sunrise of day, Brave Topolini, vroom, vroom, va-ra! Noisily going their way. Making the tour of Roma, Seeing the sights as they go, Brave Topolini, vroom, vroom, va-ra! Brave Topolini, vroom, vroom, va-ra! Romaing the fabled city, Faster than Caesar would dare, Brave Topolini, vroom, vroom, va-ra! Zip through the flower-filled square. Opera nights in Roma, Thrill to a new serenade, Brave Topolini, vroom, vroom, va-ra! Brave Topolini, vroom, vroom, va-ra! Famous as Rigoletto, Louder than Figaro song, Brave Topolini, vroom, vroom, va-ra! Thundering madly along. When you depart from Roma, Bearing this sound-souvenir, Brave Topolini, vroom, vroom, va-ra! Brave Topolini, vroom, vroom, va-ra! Coins in the Trevi fountain, Promise that you'll hear again, Brave Topolini, vroom, vroom, va-ra! Singing their welcome refrain. |
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24 Feb 07 - 01:03 PM (#1978091) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: BB Maggie, you might try to get hold of a couple of books, 'The Funny Family' and 'The Jolly Herring' which were around when my children were small in the '70s. Now that I have a granddaughter, both I and my daughter wanted to look them out. I think we'd lent the first to someone and never got it back, so I found a copy through a brilliant site called Bookfinder4U - sorry, I tried to make a link, but can't make it work at the moment, but try Googling for it. You might also take a look at Simon Mayer and Hilary James site www.childrensmusic.co.uk, where they have a couple of CDs available. Don't know what they're like as I haven't yet got round to sending for them, but they're excellent musicians, so I would expect them to be good. Good luck. Barbara |
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24 Feb 07 - 01:25 PM (#1978115) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Compton Now why does the name "william Appleyard" come to mind with all this. I remember singing "My Love's an Arfbutus by the borders of Lein" without having a clue what it was all about. It must have had some effect on me as I've been singing Folk Song ever since! I also remember in the far off days listening to "Music and Movement" (on the Home Service??) and running around being leaves...or staing still and being a tree shaking in the wind. Happy Days. |
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25 Feb 07 - 10:35 AM (#1978833) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Geoff the Duck The Jolly Herring - 77 Songs - Folk and Pop Is that the one? First published 1980 by A. & C. Block (Publishers) Ltd. ISBN 0 7136 2095 1 / 0 7136 2094 3 (depending on the type of cover) It's got quite a reasonable assortment of stuff. Quack! GtD. |
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25 Feb 07 - 04:57 PM (#1979221) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: BB That's it, Geoff. I hadn't realised it was published that late though. Mind you, my youngest was only four at the time. Doesn't time fly when you're growing older? Barbara |
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13 Mar 07 - 11:09 AM (#1995406) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST D McG - thank you so much for the Brave Topolini lyrics - you have made my day! (I must confess that I did keep checking back and then it slipped my mind and I've just checked now.) Thank you so much, I really appreciate it! Sarah |
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13 Mar 07 - 11:24 AM (#1995427) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Gadaffi If anyone's interested, I saw of bundle of 'Singing Togethers' for sale in a second-hand bookshop in Rye ten days ago - the one down the hill from the parish church near Simon the Pieman. |
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11 Sep 07 - 07:01 AM (#2146242) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Young Buchan Singing Together was of course the origin of Big Brother. All schools who took the broadcast had the right to nominate their 3 (I think) favourite songs; those songs that did not get enough nominations (usually the quiet ballady ones) were voted off and did not appear in the final broadcast of the term when all the loud, in-your-face songs were sung. As to Old Roger Is Dead, in my (Suffolk) neck of the woods, being the Apple Tree was not a safe option, because it was progressive. The Old Woman selected the Apple Tree, and went on to receive her clout from Old Roger. Then for the next round the Old Woman became Roger, the Apple Tree became the Old Woman, and Roger dropped out, back into the general circle. So the new Roger handed out the clouting to the person they had originally nominated as the Apple Tree. |
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11 Sep 07 - 09:21 AM (#2146337) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Girl Friday Have just aquired "The New National and Folk Song Book Part 1 (teacher's edition, by Desmond McMahon. £2.50 from second-hand bookshop.It's dated 1938. Songs therein are: Admiral Benbow Afton Water All Through The Night The Ash Grove Auld Lang Syne The Baillif's Daughter of Islington Blow the Man Down Blue Bell of Scotland Blow the Wind Southerly Bobby shafto The bonny Briar Bush British grenadiers Broom,green Broom Carrion Crow Charlie is my Darling Cold's the Wind Come Lasses and Lads Come Ye not from Newcastle Dance to Your Daddy Dead Horse Dear Harp of erin Deck the Hall The Dumb wife Cured The Dusky Night Early One Morning Fire Down Below The Frog and the Crow A Frog he would a-wooing Go gather ye rosebuds God Save The King Golden Slumbers Gossip Joan Hanging Johnny Harvest Home Here's a Health unto His Majesty The Hunt is Up The Brisk and Sprightly Lad I Drew my Ship I have House and Land in Kent I sowed the Seeds of Love If all the World were Paper With jockey to the Fair John Dory John peel The Jolly Waggoner The Jovial Beggar Just as the Tide was Flowing The Keel Row Kelvin Grove The Laird of Cockpen Land of my Fathers The Lass of richmond Hill Lavender's Blue Leave Her Johnny The Lincolnshire poacher Loch Lomond Men of Harlech The Mermaid The Minstrel Boy My Bonny Cuckoo My little pretty One Oh Dear! What can the matter Be? Old King Cole The Piper o' Dundee Polly Oliver Richard of Taunton Dene Rio Grande Rise, rise, Thou merry Lark Roving St Patrick was a Gentleman Saucy Sailor Sir eglamore Sweet Nightingale The Miller of Dee There was an Old woman The water of Tyne We're all Bound to Go When Johnny Comes Down Widecombe Fair |
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11 Sep 07 - 10:31 AM (#2146389) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Young Buchan I seem to recall that 'Rhythm and Melody', 'Time and Tune' and 'Music and Movement' were similar programmes for different age groups. So poor Ringer who seems to have had all three in a week must have had an extremely lazy teacher. One of them used to specialise in the Sailor's Hornpipe which we had to dance not only to the 'proper' tune but also to the Trumpet Hornpipe. [They say that a proper classical musician is someone who can hear the Blue Danube without singing 'Shiphams for tea, for tea, for tea' or for a younger generation one who can hear O sole Mio without singing 'Just one Cornetto'. By the same token is a real folk musician someone who can hum the Trumpet Hornpipe without thinking of Capt. Pugwash and the Black Pig? On an entirely irrelevant theme I am convinced that over the years I have heard the Trumpet Hornpipe introduced as the Oxford Hornpipe and bizarrely the Traffic Hornpipe. Am I senile, or has anyone else come across these?] |
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22 Sep 07 - 08:21 AM (#2154843) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Russell Dear John Kernow I am interested in making a donation for set of your books. Are you actually selling the books themselves? Thanks Russell |
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22 Sep 07 - 08:23 AM (#2154845) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Russell John my email is tiger_elephant_cat@yahoo.co.uk if you wish to contact me regarding a donation for a set of your books. Thanks Russell |
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25 Sep 07 - 01:17 PM (#2157197) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Laura Hello everybody I am so pleased to have found this discussion group. I've just been out walking the dog, singing away to myself all the old songs I could remember from Primary School (almost 30 years ago!). Can anyone help with this one - it starts off "T'was the 15th of September, how well I do remember I nearly broke my poor old mother's heart. For I shipped with Captain Nipper on a good 4-masted clipper Bound to far away and foreign parts. And the wind began to blow and the ship began to roll And a devil of a hurricane did blow, aye-aye-oh, It nearly knocked the stuffin' from the Good Ship Ragamuffin And we thought that to the bottom we should go...." I can't remember the other verses but I remember us giving a rousing 'Aye-aye-oh' when we got to that bit in our tiny country school, with the Master playing along on a tinny old piano! Am I being daft or has anyone scanned in the front covers of the old Singing Together books? I can't find that page, so would be grateful if someone could post it.... Many thanks Laura |
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25 Sep 07 - 02:33 PM (#2157243) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Malcolm Douglas 'Kernow John' made his offer six years ago (see the date on his message) so I wouldn't expect much in the way of a reply from him; he doesn't seem to have posted in the Forum in the last three years. For 'Ragamuffin', see these discussions from 2004-5: Origins: good ship ragamuffin (words and background) Tune Req: captain nipper (unanswered request for the tune). |
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25 Sep 07 - 02:37 PM (#2157245) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: BB I don't know how to do a link to the thread, but if you put 'Good Ship Ragamuffin' into the 'Lyrics & Knowledge' search at the top of this page, you should find the thread that includes all the words to this song. Have fun! Barbara |
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29 Sep 07 - 11:32 AM (#2159918) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Lesley Just found this brilliant site! I can remember sitting on the floor in the hall at school in 1957/8 singing "The Campbells are coming Oh Ho Oh Ho" then having to do it in a round. Now I'm looking for the rest of the words. My present school has a 50th anniversary next April and - yes - we're having a 1950's timetable!! |
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05 Nov 07 - 06:16 PM (#2187112) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Catherine Schmidt Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Jon Freeman Date: 05 Jun 01 - 09:53 AM Come And Sing Together (Hungarian Carol Words by Max Krone) My daughter is learning this song on her flute and would like to find the words to sing to her Hungarian grandfather. If we can find the English words they might help a Hungarian friend remember the original words for us..... Much appreciated Catherine |
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11 Apr 08 - 06:59 PM (#2313346) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Marie Purtill Southend on Sea Essex I thought I was the only one to remember Singing Together. I went to a primary school in London and we really loved singing along with the songs - I remember a lot of them on the lists, this site brings it all back. They definitely were happy carefree days. |
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12 Apr 08 - 05:53 PM (#2313917) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: kerry and Mandy Singing together was alive and well in the 70's when I was little (showing my age!) I can remember one song quite vividly, Per Spelman. I've tried looking it up on T'internet but can only seem to get the Scandinavian words!!! If anyone has got the words I'd be really gratefull. Mandy |
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21 May 08 - 02:50 PM (#2346277) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,kate I remember a bit of a song from Singing Together around the period 1962. It is about 'a fox with a great bushy tail.' .....cluck, cluck,cluck cried the poor little creature Cluck, cluck, cluck but she cried in vain. ...? followed after but down in the farmyard There sat a fox with a great bushy tail. Can anyone remember it, please. I keep singing bits of it and would love to be able to sing it all. Thanks in anticipation Kate |
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21 May 08 - 06:42 PM (#2346453) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Steve Gardham Kate, It's 'Paul's Little Hen' and it's a Norwegian translation. I have a copy somewhere in one of the old school pamphlets, but I've also got the Norwegian original in a Norwegian songbook by Mads Berg called 'Skolens Sangbok'. Unfortunately I don't know where all those funny things that go above the letters are on my computer Pal sine honer Here's what I remember 'Paul's little hen ran away from the farmyard, over the ....... and away from the farm. Paul made a leap but could not catch her, now I shall never go there again Cluck cluck cluck cried the poor little creature, cluck cluck cluck as she cried in vain. If you wish I will have a good look for the translation tomorrow and post it. Steve |
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10 Jun 08 - 10:46 AM (#2362293) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,m mclean Paul's little hen. Paul's little hen flew away from the farmyard, Ran down the hillside and into the dale. Paul hurried after, but down in the brambles There sat a fox with a great bushy tail. "Cluck, cluck, cluck", cried the pooor little creature. "Cluck, cluck, cluck", but she cried in vain. Paul made a spring, but could not save her. Now she will never go home again. |
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10 Jun 08 - 03:06 PM (#2362521) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Willa This is what I remember. Paul's little hen flew away from the farmyard, ran down the hillside and into the dale. Paul hurried after but down in the brambles, there sat a fox with a great bushy tail. Cluck! Cluck! Cluck! Cried the poor little creature. Cluck! Cluck! Cluck! But she cried in vain. Paul made a spring but could not save her. "Now I shall never dare go home again." |
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11 Jun 08 - 04:04 AM (#2362977) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST Does anyone remember a song about circus? I am sure it began "putting up the big top" and also had the line "we deserve applause and praise that we dont get" I can't bring the rest of the lyrics to mind, does anyone remember it? Jinty |
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05 May 09 - 02:00 PM (#2624779) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Steve Amor I participated in "Singing Together" from Autumn 1960 to Summer 1962. Amongst the songs we sang were "Amsterdam Maid" (presumably with watered-down lyrics), "Oh I Love The Maiden Fair" and "Old Zip Coon", One that I can now find no trace of had lyrics that began "Now the green leaves go, tomorrow I must go, today I shelter here so none may know". It appeared to be about a father on the run from the authorities saying goodbye to his children for the last time. I wonder if it dates back to the English Civil War, or the religious persecutions of the previous century -- or perhaps, more recently, from Ireland. I don't remember the title -- is anyone familiar with this song? |
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24 Aug 09 - 06:18 AM (#2707149) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Anne Hello I am trying to find a song about a turtle dove, which I think may have come from singing together in the seventies. Words of first verse are In a wood there lived a dearest turtle dove And she sang so sweetly in her nest above Oh I love that turtle dove so much I hope one day She will gladly leave her nest and come with me to stay. Can anyone help please? Thanks |
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24 Aug 09 - 08:20 AM (#2707216) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Betsy My recollection ( I was born in November 1947 – i.e. school years were decided on your date of birth ) so before leaving Junior school it must have been 1956 / 7 maybe 58 they had a competition to choose the most popular song of the school year . The winner which wasn't particularly well–received in our school was Marianina (see Jon Freeman's unbelievably comprehensive list). The refrain / chorus went "Marianina , Marianina, come, oh come, and turn us into foam." Jeez – they don't write 'em like that any more. Perhaps that's where the seeds were planted Eh? I would love to make the singing of all these songs compulsory between 5 and 11 years with accent on Scottish ones in Scottish Schools, Welsh ones in Wales etc – but I can already feel as I type - some PC prick ready to batter me down. They were a great way to learn the English language and how words could and can be used, and putting some melody into your life. They were also a fabulous antidote to the American songs which were flooding our limited airwaves after the War – Yellow rose of Texas, What did Delaware boys etc. but THAT is another story which starts and ends ( I believe) with the Beatles .Hopefully the Beatles were influenced by the Subject matter – after all it was their era – it would be an interesting question to pose to Sir Paul Macca. Cheers Betsy |
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11 Oct 09 - 09:49 AM (#2743444) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Simon Tony Oh wow,the "turn us into foam" lyric sent me right back! Believe me, they still used Marianina in the mid seventies, and I seem to recall we all loved it. I was born in '67 by the way, and I adore the memories of "Singing Together" on the wireless at school, also "Time and Tune" when we were a little younger. Heady days for sure... |
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12 Oct 09 - 10:04 AM (#2744116) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Ringer No, no, Young Buchan (your post 11 Sep 07 - 10:31 AM), the programs were not meant for different age-groups -- they had different emphases. Singing Together was just that: singing; Rhythm & Melody and Time & Tune attemped to instill the basics of musical theory (perhaps these two were aimed at different age-groups - R&M had a booklet format similar to Singing Together, that is white booklet of about A5 size, whereas T&T had a bigger, landscape format booklet with bigger writing, bigger staves, etc). Music & Movement was desperate: I recognise the embarrassment of Compton up-screen (24 Feb 07 - 01:25 PM) who obviously went through the same painful experience as me: being a tree blown by the wind to music, or being a swan to music, etc (along with skipping to music & other similar ridiculousnesses). My embarrassment was heightened to the level of exquisite torture in summer, when we had to do it outside, and a double-decker bus was due past.... But I did enjoy Singing Together. William Appleby, I think, Compton. I, too, remember "My Love's an Arbutus"; your post implies that you didn't know then what it was all about, Compton: are you wiser now? ('cos I'm not - does that song actually mean anything?) |
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12 Oct 09 - 12:18 PM (#2744198) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Betsy Ringer - you've just reminded me , I missed the Compton referred post - pretending to be a tree etc - painful is the right word - it was for me at least , terrified that any of my football mates should see me , total embarrassment . Strange thought about the singing - no Tele , computer, film slides , power point presentations any visual images - just a great big lump of wood called a Radio and imagination. |
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21 Nov 09 - 01:00 PM (#2770575) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Andy Muir Like many of you, I remember the happy days of infant and junior singing in the mid 60s. I have a collection from 1949 to 1968 catalogued in excel. I'm sure other would be interested in viewing it but I'm not sure how best to go about it. So For GUEST Steve Amor. "Now the green leaves grow.." Is titled "The Song of Farewell", an Austrian Folk Song words by Ursula Vaughan Williams and was in Autumn 1960 |
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04 Apr 10 - 12:00 PM (#2879383) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,mark lambert My earliest memories were in the late seventies early eighties where i remember time and tune and singing together and hosted as i recall by douglas coombes, songs i remember include westering homes,migaldi magaldi,zum gali gali, kalinka, the cuckoo song,one particular series was a play and songbook of ming ming and the lantern dragon sadly i never got to own any, i also remember having to vote for your fave song at end and send them off in post which i remember being put in charge of doing ,but got frowned apon when i forgot to do so . oh what memories |
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17 Apr 10 - 06:28 AM (#2888462) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,ArranBrownButterfly I recognise several of these songs from the 1960s when I was at Trinity Academy Primary School, Edinburgh. One I'd like to find was 'The Neighbours', which so far I have been unable to locate on the web; I think it may be a translation of a French song. Here are the words of the first verse: Bread have we none for supper (Dance as we always do) Over the way they have some May we not have some too? The second and third were similar, beginning respectively 'Wine have we none to cheer us', and 'Fire have we none to warm us'. The last verse was more optimistic and ended: Over the way they're sighing We'll dance the evening through. Ring any bells? |
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19 Apr 10 - 08:32 PM (#2890267) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Andy Muir To Arran Brown Butterfly The Neighbours was in Spring 1956 It is a French folk song Your first verse is correct. 2 Wine we have none for supper, Dance as we always do! Over the way they have some, May we not have some too? 3 Fire we have none to warm us, Dance as we always do! Over the way they have some, May we not have some too? 4 Fun we shall have in plenty, Dance as we always do! Over the way they are weeping, We'll laugh the evening through! |
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22 Apr 10 - 05:42 PM (#2892323) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST Thank you, Andy Muir. They must have used 'The Neighbours' again in the 1960s. I wonder what the French words are? |
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22 Apr 10 - 07:14 PM (#2892377) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Alban Ive just noticed that someone is selling 'old' Singing Together, Time & Tune, Music Workshop etc, pupils pamphlets and Teachers Notes on Ebay from early 70's onwards, a bargain!! Alban |
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29 Mar 11 - 03:08 AM (#3123859) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Teekle Hi. I've only just found this tread and it brings back so many memories of the top class in primary school - all sitting listening to the massive radio in the corner of the room. My favourites were Red Sombrero and a song about a Tiger called Tegrey (I may have spelt it incorrectly but that was what we sang). Does anyone know this Tegrey song. I'd love to know the words. Teekle |
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29 Mar 11 - 05:03 PM (#3124349) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Sara O'Keeffe How lovely to find fellow Singing Togetherites. I was at school in Kingston-on-Thames in the late 60s and remember many songs from the programmes. It really instilled in me a great love of Folk from an early age. Does anyone remember 'The Zucturn Monster' (a variation of the Derby Ram'), or 'The Worples'? Also 'Where have you been to, Peter?' and 'Over the Rolling Plains' were some of my faves! Even better still, I remember a man coming into school with guitar singing us such songs as 'Och On, Tis pretty to be in Ballinderry' I've far too easily fallen in love with guitar-playing men ever since! It must be that golden seed. . . |
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24 Jul 11 - 04:26 PM (#3194472) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Sue Grainger Hooray!!Have found 'Marianina' at last. I sang it regularly in 1959 aged 8 to my new sister, parked in her pram next to my swing in the garden, though it didn't seem to work as a lullaby.... Little Red Bird of the Lonely Moor didn't work any better. I have been trying to remember the words to Marianina recently but been frustrated by gaps- eventually tried Google and found this site. Yum. Now I intend many happy hours ahead, supplementing my one precious but dog-eared Singing Together booklet. Thanks everyone - amazing how powerful our music memories are. |
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24 Jul 11 - 04:50 PM (#3194488) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Eliza Guest Teekle, there was a song called 'El Tigre' from the Peru booklet (forget its actual title) but that was Singing Together in the seventies (did it with my class) |
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24 Jul 11 - 04:59 PM (#3194491) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Eliza The chorus was:- Watch for his coming, El Tigre Silent as nightfall, El Tigre, Swifter than sunflash, El Tigre, Lord of the jungle, El Tigre. (It wasn't a tiger, though, but a jaguar!) |
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27 Nov 11 - 12:37 PM (#3264294) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST oh kiji was a hooser bold a hooser bold was he he fought so bravely for the Zhar the pride of the cavelry |
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13 Feb 12 - 06:31 PM (#3308003) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST what is the date for the tortilla vendor, i remember that from around 1980, but would love to know the exact date, i know it was on radio 4, any of the other shows around 1980/81 id love to know about does any radio recodings exist ?? pete seaton peteseaton2012@aol.com |
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13 Feb 12 - 07:01 PM (#3308024) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Mick Pearce (MCP) Spring 1981 is given in this thread: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' Mick |
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14 Feb 12 - 02:23 PM (#3308480) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Kevin the gerbil Fascinating and very enjoyable thread this, which I found today when I googled "Singing Together", after I had been talking with a friend about being in the school choir. Singing Together was the brainchild of William "Pip" Appleby (mentioned earlier) who was based in Doncaster and who drew the singers in the Singing Together Choir from local schools in the surrounding area - and possibly further afield, but I'm not sure about that. I remember Singing Together and Sing at Sight from my primary school days in Doncaster in the late 50s/early 60s. The song lists given above are absolute gems btw - "Oh 'tis my delight on a shining night, when the copper's not about..." (With apologies to Rambling Sid Rumpo). I know that for a while at least in the early-to-mid 1960's they used the Library in the then Doncaster Grammar School to record the shows for the BBC because the acoustics - rather ironic I know for a library - were considered to be very good. William Appleby is still remembered with great affection by many people in Doncaster as the man who brought the possibility of a good musical education to several generations of essentially working class children. And his work is continued still - and very successfully - in the town by the exceptional staff in the Music Centre named after him. Thanks again all! |
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13 Mar 12 - 01:39 PM (#3322336) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Guest, Naomi Hartley I've just stumbled across this fantastic thread. I was helping my son with some homework which mentioned China and the Silk Road. The following song then for some inexplicable reason popped into my head after last being sung circa 1974\5 at James Dixon Primary School, Penge SE20. 'When Marco Polo reached Venice with chinese silks and gold, no citizen would believe him, or trust the tales in told. Travellers tales, travellers tales, you can't believe in travellers, travellers tales!' I googled to lyrics and got a hit on this website. Ah the memories of listening to the radio in our music lesson at school- Happy Days! Thanks for the memories. |
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13 Mar 12 - 03:13 PM (#3322361) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,ian1943 I am 68 and was in a junior school from the late forties until the mid fifties and I remember our Tuesday (I think)morning broadcasts on the school valve radio of 'Singing Together' which was hosted, if that would be the word in those far-off days by William Appleby who, my understanding is,ended up as the Director of Music for Warwickshire. Had we but known then we were given a fine repertoire of English traditional songs. Some of us, in later years, recognised the debt we owe to these broadcasts and returned to the songs. William Appleby is a hero! |
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14 Mar 12 - 09:09 AM (#3322710) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST It was called Paul's Little Hen. |
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01 Apr 12 - 10:59 AM (#3332028) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Grandma W I loved 'Singing together'. I remember Football crazy,Johnny Todd, Elsie Marley, Bonie was a warrior. I have just been babysitting for my Granddaughter and sang Johnny Todd to her.I have a growly voice and was never allowed into the choir but 'Singing together' was for everyone and growlers were welcome. I love knowing the words to so many old folk tunes. |
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14 Jan 13 - 08:02 AM (#3465862) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST, Hilary - An Oldie I woke up with the Zucturn song in my head this morning. Remember it well and probably all the other songs in that songbook and all the others from whatever year it was. Does anyone have those old Time and Tune Books still? |
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14 Jan 13 - 09:02 AM (#3465884) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler My little sister liberated me a couple when she was in junior school and I wanted more folk music than the local library could provide. I particluarly wanted the words to "Johnny Todd", so this woiuld be somewher around 1967 or so. |
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14 Jan 13 - 09:10 AM (#3465890) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Steve Gardham What was the title of 'Once there was a wild rose gay, on the moorland growing, Till a careless boy at play chanced to see the tempting spray On the moorland grow-ow-ing' ? Sung by a shrill soprano, but nonetheless memorable. All time favourite was 'Marianina'. The first song I sang in a folk club c1965 was the chantey Sally Brown which I remembered from ST. Loved all the well-known chanteys. All done in Donny! Marvellous. I thought all Donny was famous for was the Steam engine sheds. Ah, those were the days! |
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14 Jan 13 - 09:24 AM (#3465898) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST I fondly remember singing together and when I sing those songs it takes me back to when I learnt them and I can remember the illustrations in the text because the lyrics were entwined around the pictures. It was still going when I left in 68. Singing always more popular than enforced playford dances where I was partnered with a boy due to shortage of girls. |
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14 Jan 13 - 07:33 PM (#3466197) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Guest - Betsy Hi Steve , I wouldn't wish to take issue with you, but I refer you to my post (above) of 24 Aug 09 re:- Marianina (just in case you missed it !) Amazing how one recalls these items of almost insignificant information. I certainly have no intention of changing your opinion as to the song you enjoyed most. Cheers Betsy |
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15 Jan 13 - 10:30 AM (#3466437) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Steve Gardham Hi Betsy, Yeah the lyrics are rather airy fairy. It was the tune and chorus I liked. |
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15 Jan 13 - 10:48 AM (#3466445) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Snuffy Steve I can't recall the English title, but your rose on the moorland song was a translation of Goethe's poem "Röslein auf der Heide", which was later adopted as a folksong in Germany |
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15 Jan 13 - 12:03 PM (#3466484) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,henryp Heidenröslein Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1771 (1749-1832) Melodie - Franz Schubert, 1815 (1797-1828) Melodie - Heinrich Werner, 1829 (1800-1833) From an earlier Mudcat thread; Once there was a wild rose gay, On the moorland growing, But a careless boy at play, Chanced to see the tempting spray, Which the breeze was blowing, Soft red rose, red rose of may, On the moorland growing. Said the boy, "I'll pick you now", On the moorland growing; Said the rose, "I'll prick you now, "That you may remember how Sad I was at going". Soft red rose, red rose of May On the moorland growing. Roughly then he snatched his prize On the moorland growing, After this he'll be more wise, There before his very eyes, Blood was freely flowing, Soft red rose, red rose of may, On the moorland growing. |
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15 Jan 13 - 12:09 PM (#3466485) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Paul Davenport Appleby was Music advisor in Doncaster. The schools Music Centre there still bears hs name. Oh, yes he was a massive influence on several generations including those who never heard of him but who sang from those booklets. |
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31 Mar 13 - 09:21 AM (#3497014) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Geraint My fiance went to school in the '80s with a music teacher who played these songs on the piano and taught her students to sing along. She must have carefully saved and preserved the Singing Together books. There is one song in particular that my better half often sings to herself but we can't find the music, full lyrics or even title anywhere. This is how she remembers it from the start: "Take grasses and flowers on midsummer night and bind them into your hair Laugh up at the man in the moon shining bright down over the pine filled air Tonight you shall dance on the shores of the lake With swimming and singing until the daybreak..." Does anyone know the name of the song? Or have the music?
-Joe Offer, Mudcat Archivist- |
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31 Mar 13 - 06:05 PM (#3497194) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Eliza Have just been reading through this thread again, and spotted a reference to a song about Per Spelman. The song began, "Per Spelman was lucky and had a fine cow. He wanted to fiddle but didn't know how..." He ends up selling his cow for "a violin, a violin, a viiiiooooliiin." But my naughty class used to sing "He wanted to piddle and didn't know how..." Nothing I did or threatened could stop them, probably because I was trying to smother my own giggles every time. |
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31 Mar 13 - 09:14 PM (#3497262) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Qudsia In the woods there lived a pretty turtle dove, And she coed so sweetly in her nest above. Oh, I loved that pretty dove so much, I hoped one day, She would gladly leave her nest and come with me to stay. Birdy dear I'll give you everything you wish, You shall feed always from a silver dish. But no matter how I begged she only said "coe coe" Gently shook her pretty head and away she flew |
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05 Apr 13 - 06:47 AM (#3499103) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Paul O'Neill That is the most bizarre thing, the same thing has just happened to me. I'm 43 this year and I must have last heard that song in my first year at Junior school. I remember the pictures in the booklet that accompanied it were really distrubing. You had a better memory of the lyrics than me. I could only remember when Marco Polo reached Venice with China Silks and Gold. and the chorus. Great memories |
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05 Apr 13 - 07:54 AM (#3499111) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Nigel Parsons From: GUEST,henryp - PM Date: 15 Jan 13 - 12:03 PM Heidenröslein Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1771 (1749-1832) Melodie - Franz Schubert, 1815 (1797-1828) Melodie - Heinrich Werner, 1829 (1800-1833) From an earlier Mudcat thread; Once there was a wild rose gay, On the moorland growing, But a careless boy at play, Chanced to see the tempting spray, Which the breeze was blowing, Soft red rose, red rose of may, On the moorland growing. Lyrics and scansion seem reminiscent of one I learnt in school. Well, I say learnt, but I'm getting stuck for words now. But it does seem to be a different translation of the same song: Saw a youth a morning rose, Blooming in the heather, Gently as her leaves unclose, Straight to gaze on her he goes, 'Twas in Summer weather. Roselein Roselein, Roselein, Rose, Rose among the heather Cheers Nigel |
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10 Jun 14 - 02:20 AM (#3631861) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Bluebell This forum is amazing! I'm an OAP now living in Canada and today, for some unknown reason, as I was working in the garden I suddenly started singing 'Boney was a Warrior' but couldn't remember all the words. I recalled that it was from a 'Singing Together' booklet, did a Google search, found all the lyrics and this site. Such memories from the 1950's - Mr. Nixon, our teacher at a tiny village school near Manchester, twiddling with the knobs on an old pre-war radio trying to tune into the BBC; it was such a disappointment when he couldn't find the station (Home Service?)and we had to do without our singing session. |
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26 Jul 14 - 03:06 PM (#3645509) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Annemieke Hello everyone, I'm from the Netherlands (so excuse me for my poor English) and I'm 25 years old. I was about 9 years old when I learned an English song in English class about rain and things you can't do because of the rain. I looked it up and came across this forum. It's called The Rain Song. I would be so happy if someone is willing to send me the sheetmusic, so I could sing it correctly to my son. He loves the song so much, I have to sing it every night to him, but I partially can't remember the melody. So, if anyone has the music of The Rain Song, please respond :) Annemieke (Anna Mary) |
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26 Jul 14 - 03:15 PM (#3645510) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: danensis Annemieke, Not the Led Zeppelin one I take it? |
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20 Aug 14 - 04:52 AM (#3652317) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Val Hello! What a brilliant Forum - I found it because, pottering around the house yesterday, I suddenly found myself singing "Handsome John Brown", which became a total earworm! Probably the last time I heard it was circa 1957 at my small Church Primary School, St John the Baptist, Smallbridge, Rochdale, under the aegis of Mr Harry Corser - wonderful headmaster, and Manchester Morris Man. So I googled the lyrics, and was amazed to find that I was almost word perfect (!) I have often wondered if primary school kids still learn this kind of Folk/Popular music. I really hope they do - it was life-enhancing then, and still is... Best wishes. |
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28 Oct 14 - 02:10 AM (#3672547) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Sue I just stumbled across 2 "time & tune" booklets in the local oxfam shop. Attracted by the woodcut illustrations i spent a whole pound on them... now to try out on my trusty recorder. They include: As i was crossing Berwick Bridge; Skye boat song; Blow the man down; Come all you young sailors; Hilo somebody; Bobby Shafto; Donkey riding (1959). 2nd book: Ferdinando the donkey; the quarrelsome bells; London bridge is broken down; Jackie the sailor; Gloucestershire wassail; a babe is born in bethlehem (1964). Happy to scan and share if someone can tell me how / where to do this on mudcat :-) |
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28 Oct 14 - 02:19 AM (#3672548) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Joe Offer If you're interested in sharing, Sue, contact me and we'll work something out. -Joe Offer- joe@mudcat.org |
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28 Oct 14 - 10:10 AM (#3672605) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Roger the Skiffler 100. AS I started this thread (one of my most successful, it seems!), I feel I ought to claim the century! RtS |
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02 Nov 14 - 06:27 PM (#3673975) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Camdenbear I too had a eureka moment when discussing Marco Polo and the following sprung to mind, 'When Marco Polo reached Venice with chinese silks and gold, no citizen would believe him, or trust the tales in told. Travellers tales, travellers tales, you can't believe in travellers, travellers tales!' Thought it came from a cartoon till I googled it and found this site, then the singing together sessions (which had been buried deep) all came back. However what was the song called?? |
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30 Nov 14 - 08:00 AM (#3681160) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,normalil I was an avid Singing Together fan during the 1950's. A huge wooden radio and black and white pamphlets with charming illustrations. I loved "Marianina." O'er the ocean flys a merry fey soft her wings are like a cloud of day. As she passes all the blue waves say, "Marianina do not roam come and turn us into foam come and turn us into foam, Marianina, Marianina, come o come and turn us into foam. The Rose on the Moorland song we learned with ST, and I sang it solo at our school concert circa 1959! I still remember all the words, and so many others! |
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21 Feb 15 - 07:37 PM (#3688732) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,jiver (17 Feb 2015) Does anyone remember the "votes" for best song at the end of the year? I think this was on "Rhythm and Melody". I remember the presenter was a man with a northern accent, and when he announced one year, (would have been 1960 or 61) that the winner was "Who Is Sylvia?" the whole class was incredulous, as we were sure it would be "Men of Harlech", which we would all sing lustily, even though we were in Egham, in Surrey! I can't remember my class voting, perhaps we couldn't afford the postage. |
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07 May 15 - 07:00 AM (#3707113) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,jenny Love this thread it made the school days a lot more bearable and happier to sing these songs with your fellow classmates.I remember the trout by schubert and the fisherman with rod and line, also barbara allen and many many more. It woul be lovely if the children now still learnt them. thanks |
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07 May 15 - 09:12 AM (#3707151) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,DTM Re. the end of the year vote. I remember 'The Lewis Bridal Song' (aka Mhari's Wedding) and 'Westering Home' winning. Generally the winner was a song with gusto rather than a ballad. For some unknown reason the Welsh song 'All Through The Night' spooked me for years. |
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07 May 15 - 04:12 PM (#3707282) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Joe Offer Hi, DTM- interesting that you should name two songs connected to Glasgow Orpheus Choir director Hugh S. Roberton, who wrote the words for "Mingulay Boat Song" (1938) and set it to a traditional tune. Lewis Bridal Song (Mairi's Wedding) was published by Roberton in 1937, with words by Hugh S. Roberton and a traditional tune noted by Roberton from Dr. Peter A. MacLeod. Roberton wrote words and music for Westering Home (1939) -Joe- |
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25 May 15 - 04:29 AM (#3711577) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,David Healy I remember some of these from the mid 50's at Woodhatch Junior School near Reigate. I had forgotten the BBC programme but the thread has kick-started the brain! Now retired, I play guitar and sing around care homes on the Isle of Wight ( where I now live) and I already sing some of these songs to the residents. I plan to include a few more! Sadly, quite a few of the old people suffer from the various forms of dementia, but it's fascinating to see how these old tunes and songs stimulate them to take part. Music and Movement? I have slightly different memories of that; I'm not sure if it would be politically correct these days to have the boys dancing around in their school shorts but the girls having to tuck their skirts into their knickers...... |
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16 Aug 15 - 10:03 AM (#3730710) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: GUEST,Margaret I went to Williamsburgh Primary School in Scotland from 1975-82 & remember singing several songs from "Singing Together" : Mhairi's Wedding; Kalinka; Jamaica Farewell; Gypsy Rover, My Grandfather's Clock; Waltzing Mathilda; Marianina to name a few. I don't remember listening to them on the radio tho! |
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16 Aug 15 - 11:23 AM (#3730723) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: Megan L Jiver the man with the northern accent was probably its first presenter a Yorkshire man Herbert Wiseman |
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31 Aug 15 - 09:02 PM (#3734547) Subject: Lyr Add: The Tortilla Vendor (Singing Together) From: Nigel Parsons Things get answered eventually: (requested Feb 2012) THE TORTILLA VENDOR Singing Together Spring 1981 (no names given) Source given as Chile. In the evening as I wander Through the town by lantern light, When I'm passing by your window, Then I sing a last goodnight. Chorus: Ah! I am sighing, While my wares I'm crying: Who'll buy from me tostaitas? Buy my tortillas? Oh, dear lady, why so cruel? Why no answer to my song? When I'm passing by your window, And the day has seemed so long. Cho: In the evening I am going By my lantern's glimm'ring light, I must leave you without knowing If you think of me tonight. Cho: X: 1 T: Tortillavendor M: 3/4 L: 1/4 C: Chile Z: NP 01/09/2015 K: D FG|BA2|zFG|B(A2|A2)F|(G3|G)FE|D2F|DFG|BA2|zFG|BA2|zFG|A2A|d2F|(G3|G)EF|AG2|zEF|AG2|zEF|G2A|c2B|(A3|A)zz|:(d3|d)cB|c(c2|c)zz|c2(c|c)BA|d(d2|d)zA|BA(F|F)G/F/ E/F/|Az(E|E)zz|(G3|G)FE|[1F2(F|F)zz:|[2D2(D|D)|| w: ||||||||* In the eve-ning as I wan-der Through the town by lan-tern light,* When I'm pass-ing by your win-dow, Then I sing a last good-night. *Ah! *I am sigh-ing, *While my *wares I'm cry-ing: *Who'll buy from me *to_sta_i-tas?_ Buy_ my tor-til-las?_|til-las? Copied from the BBC for schools booklet "Singing Together" (Spring 1981) NP |
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18 Sep 17 - 04:58 AM (#3877485) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: GUEST,Re: songs I remember NOT on list? Haul away joe(away haul away....) Merry Christmas (sun gleams bright ...Aussie Carol) Beep Beep Van diemans land ***not sure of names but the two I remember go like this "it was a beaut bike me bike", which was done in a round and the other "Chis, fips and sausage rolls, 5 guys tall and lean, you could say string beans" Was there one called hillungully rider? Thanks for the memories. The Carol was my favourite. I hate all Christmas songs except this one, so it's catchy!! |
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18 Sep 17 - 06:06 AM (#3877500) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: Nigel Parsons Hill and gully rider The list is here: Mudcat Haul away joe is in Spring 1958 Van Dieman's land partial answer only. |
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27 Nov 17 - 02:47 AM (#3890625) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: GUEST,DorothyB Delighted to find this site - I have lovely memories of Singing Together and still have books: Autumn 1949, Cock-a-Doodle-Doo Amid the New-mown Hay The Keeper Child in a Manger Gold and Amber St Distaff's Day Christmas Carol [Ye shepherds so drowsy ... ] Whence is That Goodly Fragrance I Saw Three Ships Jesu Good Above All Other Ye Holy Angels Bright Prince and Princess Christmas Lullaby [Italian folk tune : begins La La La La etc] Past Three O'Clock The Spinning Wheel The Bellman' Song From Bethl'em's City Christ is born Spring 1950: British Grenadiers Lincolnshire Poacher Fairest Isle The Gnat Ho-Ro! My Nut-Brown Maiden Sweet Kitty Clover Venture Gwen The Well of St Keyne Willl Ye No Come Back Again? Little Rabbit in the Corn The Song of The Flax O Rare Turpin The Shepherdess The Little Chicken Bonny at Morn Wee Willie Grey I'll be very happy to email any songs requested. Also Autumn 1956 & Spring 1957 [given to me when I went to visit former teacher who was retiring]. I'll post those lists of songs later. |
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24 Dec 21 - 02:43 PM (#4129882) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: GUEST,Margaret I have Summer 1951 (missing front cover, but the rest stitched together) and Spring Term 1952 (dirty condition, but otherwise complete). Any use to you? |
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20 May 22 - 11:51 AM (#4142161) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: Nigel Parsons Sorry to take so long to respond, but if you're still looking in occasionally Margaret we already have Summer 1951 & Spring 1952 listed for contents. Spring 1950 is one I don't have, and would love to have sight of (for scanning). Cheers |
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28 Aug 22 - 04:27 PM (#4151298) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: GUEST,Philip Rhind-Tutt Is this thread still current? I am looking for a couple of songs from Singing together. |
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29 Aug 22 - 10:04 AM (#4151356) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: Nigel Parsons Guest Philip: For a contents list of songs try This Thread You'll see there that if it's just a couple of songs I'll happily arrange for scans to be available once identified. Once you've gone to the other thread Ctrl+F will allow you to find particular titles quite easily. Cheers |
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02 Apr 23 - 04:05 PM (#4169070) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: GUEST,Heather Rowley Just today I found myself singing Linstead Market,remembered it from Singing Together,other songs too.Was most impressed with Jon's list. |
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17 Apr 23 - 04:38 PM (#4170191) Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: Nigel Parsons Guest, Heather. I recently made available online copies of my Singing Together collection. Details of downloads available At Mudcat, here And a searchable (using ctrl+F) list of contents is available Here Cheers |