24 Oct 03 - 04:25 AM (#1040877) Subject: In Mobile From: greg stephens Do they sing "In Mobile" in Mobile? |
24 Oct 03 - 04:28 AM (#1040879) Subject: RE: In Mobile From: Geoff the Duck Do they sing On Ilkley Moor - hatless...? |
24 Oct 03 - 06:24 AM (#1040912) Subject: RE: In Mobile From: Leadfingers And who put the Thorpe in Scunthorpe ??? |
24 Oct 03 - 06:27 AM (#1040913) Subject: RE: In Mobile From: greg stephens Actualluy, I do want to know if they sing "In Mobile" in Mobile.Not that I have any objections to jokes about Scunthorpe, or indeed Arsenal, which reminds me of a joke about Manchester United, but that's another story. |
24 Oct 03 - 06:44 AM (#1040922) Subject: RE: In Mobile From: GUEST,Martin Ryan In Ireland, of course, we sing "In Moville"... Regards |
24 Oct 03 - 06:59 AM (#1040928) Subject: RE: In Mobile From: Steve Parkes I only know the rude words. Is there a "proper" version? |
24 Oct 03 - 07:14 AM (#1040935) Subject: RE: In Mobile From: greg stephens I would think the rude words are the proper version. Any proper words version would be quite improper. I ate a dozen oysters in Moville once, only nine of them worked.But that is another story. |
24 Oct 03 - 05:03 PM (#1041259) Subject: RE: In Mobile From: Burke I was going to offer to send a e-mail to a friend in Mobile. After looking at the words, I think I'll pass. If there are groups that get together to sing rude songs in Mobile, I'd guess they sing it as well. I doubt your average person on the street would. Another question might be how many people in Mobile are aware of the song? When I visted my Grandmother in a nursing home on the eastern shore of Mobile Bay, I heard "We were sailing along on Mobile Bay." |
24 Oct 03 - 06:34 PM (#1041294) Subject: Lyr Add: IN KANSAS From: Q (Frank Staplin) Couldn't find "In Mobile" in Mudcat, only the old cotton-loading song, "Mobile Bay," about a different kind of screwing. In Mobile, "In Mobile," is known usually as "In Kansas," but sometimes "In London" (or wherever). Verses come from all over. The verse "There's no paper in the bogs in Kansas" seems to be sung in England. Just to be perverse, I will post "In Kansas." IN KANSAS Oh, the eagles, they fly high in Kansas, Oh, the eagles, they fly high in Kansas. Oh, the eagles, they fly high, And they shit right in your eye. Thank the Lord the cows don't fly in Kansas. There's a shortage of good whores in Texas, There's a shortage of good whores in Texas. There's a shortage of good whores, But there's keyholes in the doors, And there's knotholes in the floors in Texas. Oh, they say to drink's a sin in Georgia. Oh, they say to drink's a sin in Georgia, But they guzzle all they kin, And the drys are voted in in Georgia. Oh, I chased a parson's daughter in Kansas Oh, I chased a parson's daughter in Kansas And I banged her when I caught her, Now I cannot pass my water in Kansas. If you ever go to jail in Memphis If you ever go to jail in Memphis And you need a piece of tail, The sheriff's wife is for sale in Memphis. In Mobile! In Mobile! In Mo, in Mo, in Mo, in Mobile. Oh, they drink their whiskey neat in Mobile. Oh, they drink their whiskey neat in Mobile. Till it knocks them off their feet And it petrifies their meat in Mobile. Apologies to Ed Cray and Randolph and Legman. |
24 Oct 03 - 06:57 PM (#1041299) Subject: RE: In Mobile From: Burke Gargoyle posted one version, but Q's got different words. Q's version also spreads the insults around well. Here's another version |
24 Oct 03 - 07:00 PM (#1041301) Subject: RE: In Mobile From: Gareth Ahhh ! That old Rugby Club Favorite. And just to showw ther's no regrets I post the full version of the "Bog Paper" verse, sung in Wales and that 'country' to the East. BTW (Trs bog paper = toilet tissue) "Ther's a shortage of bog paper in Kansas X 2 Ther's a shortage of bog paper, so they use an arsehole scraper, Ther's a shortage of bog paper in Kansas." And as a bonus - BTW (Trs clogged= jammed, full to bursting" Oh!, their arsehole's are all clogged in Kansas X 2 Oh !, thier arse holes are all clogged, and it comes out in logs, Oh!, their arsehole's are all clogged in Kansas" Now I can not explain this fixation with arse holes this side of the pond, (Mmmm ! perhaps I should have attributed to the English 'Rugger Buggers'), perhaps some learned 'Catter can explain. Gareth |
24 Oct 03 - 07:52 PM (#1041338) Subject: RE: In Mobile From: Q (Frank Staplin) What ever happened to the song about the Irish famine? Oh, the taters---. From Philippine soldiering days (Ed Cray, The Erotic Muse). Oh, the women get no tail in Zamboanga (2x) Oh, the women get no tail, For their husbands are in jail. Oh, the women get no tail in Zamboanga. There's a virgin in Cebu, so they say (2x) There's a virgin in Cebu And today she is just two. There's a virgin in Cebu, so they say. (maybe related to- There are virgins in Marseilles, so they say,--- but when Yankee sailors got their pay, there were no virgins anymore, in Marseilles). Could someone give all the words of the Irish song mentioned in Ed Cray- How I wish that we were geese, night and morn, night and morn. How I wish that we were geese, night and morn. How i wish that we were geese, And could live and die in peace 'Til the hour of our release, eating corn, eating corn. |
25 Oct 03 - 08:59 AM (#1041572) Subject: RE: In Mobile From: Lanfranc Clacton RFC Version: //:There's a shortage of bog paper in Mobile:// There's a shortage of bog paper So they wait until it's vapour Then they light it with a taper In Mobile //:There are seagulls round the lighthouse in Mobile:// There are seagulls round the lighthouse And they use it for a shitehouse That's why the lighthouse is a white house In Mobile //:There's the usual dearth of virgins in Mobile:// There's the usual dearth of virgins But there's several female sturgeons And some gay young barber-surgeons In Mobile Alan |
25 Oct 03 - 01:08 PM (#1041655) Subject: RE: In Mobile From: Q (Frank Staplin) Now we need: Sperm isn't mobile in Mobile. |
25 Oct 03 - 01:38 PM (#1041674) Subject: RE: In Mobile/In Kansas/In & Around Nashville From: Joe Offer I guess the best-known version of the song is "In Kansas," although I'm partial to Art Thieme's "In and Around Nashville." Here's what the Traditional Ballad Index says about it. -Joe Offer- In KansasDESCRIPTION: A quatrain ballad, this describes the unseemly, unsanitary, unhealthy conditions and people in that state, at Yale, in Mobile, in Zamboanga or any other place disliked by the singer.AUTHOR: unknown EARLIEST DATE: 1844, when a version of the song was published in New York City by Atwill. Said to date from a song about the Irish famines, "Over Here." KEYWORDS: bawdy scatological humorous FOUND IN: Australia Canada Britain(England) US(MA,MW,NE,So,SW) New Zealand REFERENCES (9 citations): Cray, pp. 49-53, "In Kansas" (4 texts, 1 tune) Belden, pp. 428-429, "Kansas" (2 texts, 1 tune) Randolph 344, "In Arkansas" (3 texts, 1 tune) Randolph/Cohen, pp. 280-282, "In Arkansas" (1 text, 1 tune -- Randolph's 344A) Randolph-Legman I, pp. 265-267, "In Kansas" (4 texts, 1 tune) Fife-Cowboy/West 32, "In Kansas" (2 texts, 1 tune; the first belongs here, while the second is "Way Out West in Kansas") Lomax-FSNA 204, "In Kansas" (2 texts, 1 tune) Greenway-AFP, pp. 212-213, "In Kansas" (1 text) Silber-FSWB, p. 43, "In Kansas" (1 text) ST EM049 (Partial) Roud #4455 RECORDINGS: Chubby Parker, "In Kansas" (Conqueror 7894, 1931) Art Thieme, "In and Around Nashville" (on Thieme06) CROSS-REFERENCES: cf. "Over There (I - The Praties They Grow Small)" (tune & meter, floating lyrics) cf. "Way Out West in Kansas" (theme) ALTERNATE TITLES: The 'Taters They Grow Small Notes: Cray and Legman have historical notes, disagreeing on the origin of the American bawdy song. - EC Given that this appears to be a clear parody of "The Praties They Grow Small," but that the 1844 version precedes the worst of the potato blights, the song origins are indeed mysterious. One suspects that the 1844 text is not the "full version," but a predecessor (the more so as Kansas was beyond the usual settlement line in 1844). Randolph reports that "several old-timers have told me that this piece was written by an Missourian named Beecham or Beecher, shortly after the Civil War." He does not believe the story, however, and certainly this can only refer to the local adaptation. There is no clear dividing line between this and "The Praties They Grow Small"; there are versions of this piece that are short enough and clean enough to belong with either. But, as often happens, we must classify them separately because the extremes are so distinct. - RBW File: EM049 Go to the Ballad Search form The Ballad Index Copyright 2009 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle. Here are the lyrics Gargoyle posted. Can anybody fill in the "illegable" words? Thread #4377 Message #614605 Posted By: GUEST,.gargoyle 22-Dec-01 - 12:48 AM Thread Name: Rugby Football Songs Subject: ADD: In Mobile
MOBILE |
25 Oct 03 - 02:43 PM (#1041694) Subject: RE: In Mobile From: Q (Frank Staplin) Joe, that doesn't explain the relationship to the song "How I wish that we were geese." I can't find any real information on this song except the fragment in Randolph-Legman. The praties they were small- the blight is not mentioned, just that the taters were small. This complaint could be pre-famine- and post-famine as well. |
25 Oct 03 - 02:51 PM (#1041697) Subject: RE: In Mobile From: Alex.S Don't know what they sing, but it sure is a pretty city. Great seafood, too. |
26 Oct 03 - 02:13 AM (#1041906) Subject: RE: In Mobile From: Joe Offer Hi, Q - I'll have to get to work posting versions. Some of the versions of "In Kansas" are very close to "Praties," and some seem closer to "In Mobile." "Praties" and the American songs are certainly different - but they work together pretty well for grouping purposes. -Joe Offer- |
26 Oct 03 - 03:47 AM (#1041916) Subject: RE: In Mobile From: Q (Frank Staplin) Joe, the version I was looking for (one verse in Cray) was posted by Wildlone, in 1999, thread 13830: Praties Wildlone says the verses were from "Poetry and Song, Book 4," but author, date, notes, etc. not given. You posted some versions there as well, including the 1844 NY printing of "The Wonderful Song of Over There." |
26 Oct 03 - 11:47 AM (#1042029) Subject: RE: In Mobile From: paddymac Q - The lyrics to "The Famine Song" are in the DT under that title, and also may be found by entering some combination on "the praties they grow small." |
26 Oct 03 - 01:07 PM (#1042055) Subject: RE: In Mobile From: Q (Frank Staplin) Read the threads but skipped the DT. Oh, well. Where did the "Famine Song" come from? The DT version has no attribution, and the post by Wildlone mentions only "Poetry and Song, book 4." Parody of the Atwill sheets it may be, but is there any more information than that? |
26 Oct 03 - 11:34 PM (#1042315) Subject: ADD: In Kansas From: Joe Offer I suppose we ought to keep "Praties" in the other thread (click), but I think these two versions from Belden show the link from "Praties" to "Kansas" to "Mobile." -Joe Offer- IN KANSAS
Potatoes they grow small in Kansas, Potatoes they grow small and they dig them in the fall And they eat them tops and all in Kansas. The girls grow tall in Kansas, The girls grow tall in Kansas, The girls grow tall and they marry in the fall And they part not at all in Kansas,
Don't you want to roam to Kansas? Don 't you want to roam And get yourself a home And be contented with the doom In Kansas? They chew tobacco thin in Kansas, They chew tobacco thin in Kansas, They chew tobacco thin And spit it on their chins And lick it in agin In Kansas. Potatoes they grow small in Kansas, Potatoes they grow small in Kansas, Potatoes they grow small, And they dig 'em in the fall, And eat 'em skin and all In Kansas.
source: Belden: Ballads and Songs Collected by the Missouri Folk-Lore Society |
27 Oct 03 - 12:21 AM (#1042321) Subject: RE: In Mobile / In Kansas From: Joe_F There's a lack of fornication, in Mobile,... So they're stuck with masturbation. What a fucking situation in Mobile! In Mobile, in Mobile, In Mo-, in Mo-, in Mo-, in Mobile. Ah, so! Ah, so! Aaaaah, so! -- Recollected from St Andrews University, Scotland, 1959 |
27 Oct 03 - 01:38 AM (#1042331) Subject: ADD Version: In Kansas From: Q (Frank Staplin) IN KANSAS Oh, the girls grow tall in Kansas, The girls they grow tall in Kansas; The girls they grow tall, the boys love them all, Then marry them in the fall, in Kansas. Now potatoes they grow small in Kansas, Potatoes they grow small in Kansas; Potatoes they grow small, they dig them in the fall, And eat them hide and all, in Kansas. Now they say to drink's a sin in Kansas, They say to drink's a sin in Kansas; They say to drink's a sin so they guzzle all they kin, Though the drys are voted in, in Kansas. Oh they chaw tobacco thin in Kansas, They chaw tobacco thin in Kansas; They chaw tobacco thin, they spit it on their chin, And lap it up again, in Kansas. So come all who want to roam in Kansas, Come all who want to roam in Kansas; Come all who want to roam and seek a prairie home, And be happy with your doom, in Kansas. Cowboy and Western Songs, A. E. and A. S. Fife, 1969 (1982), No. 32, pp. 96-97, with music, sung by Joan O'Bryant. Very close to the one from Belden posted by Joe Offer, but easier to post in full than point out differences. The Fifes' says it is typical of the songs sung by frontiersmen, "at least since the 1840s." |
27 Oct 03 - 02:49 PM (#1042743) Subject: ADD Version: In Arkansas From: Q (Frank Staplin) IN ARKANSAS Oh the taters they grow small in Arkansas, (2x) Oh the taters they grow small, For they dig 'em in the fall, An' they eat 'em tops an' all in Arkansas. Oh the chickens they grow tall in Arkansas, (2x) Oh the chickens they grow tall An' their meat is full of gall, An' they eat 'em guts an' all in Arkansas. Oh they bake a polecat pie in Arkansas, (2x) Oh they bake a polecat pie, An' the crust is made of rye, You must eat it if you die in Arkansas. Oh they chaw terbacker thin in Arkansas, (2x) Oh they chaw terbakker thin, An' it runs down on their chin, An' they wipe it off ag'in in Arkansas. Oh I'd like to be a geese in Arkansas, (2x) Oh I'd like to be a geese, So I'd live an' die in peace, An' accumulate some grease in Arkansas. Mrs. C. O. Foster, MO, 1924. From Randolph, Ozark Folksongs, vol. 3, p. 18-19 with music. Oh the candles they are small in Arkansas, (2x) Oh the candles they are small, For they dips 'em lean an' tall, An' they burns 'em sticks an' all in Arkansas. Oh the roosters they lay eggs in Arkansas, (2x) Oh the roosters they lay eggs, A big as whiskey kegs, An' there's whiskers on their legs in Arkansas. Anon. inmate, jail house in Carthage, MO, 1923. From Randolph, Ozark Folksongs, vol. 3, p. 19. |
28 Oct 03 - 10:53 AM (#1043179) Subject: RE: In Mobile / In Kansas From: Dave Bryant Well if we want a definitive version, I'll add some more debauchery. There's a girl by name of Dinah in Mobile There's a girl by name of Dinah in Mobile There's a girl by name of Dinah and they say there's nothing finer Than the touch of her vagina in Mobile There's a girl by name of Florrie in Mobile There's a girl by name of Florie in Mobile There's a girl by name of Florie with a cunt just like a quarry You could drive up in a lorry in Mobile There's a man by name of West in Mobile There's a man by name of West in Mobile There's a man by name of West and he thinks he's got a breast But his balls are on his chest in Mobile. The gulls fly round lighthouse in Mobile The gulls fly round lighthouse in Mobile The gulls fly round lighthouse and they use it as shitehouse So the lighthouse is a whitehouse in Mobile But if you really want a yuk verse: There's a shortage of san(itary) towels in Mobile There's a shortage of san towels in Mobile There's a shortage of san so they wait until it fouls Then they scoop it out with trowels in Mobile. Most of which I learnt at the wonderful sessions they used to have at "The Prospect of Whitby", Wapping, London. |
28 Oct 03 - 02:33 PM (#1043307) Subject: ADD Version: In Kansas (Cray) From: Q (Frank Staplin) IN KANSAS (Cray) Oh, the eagles they fly high in Kansas, (2x) Oh, the eagles they fly high, And they shit right in your eye. Thank the Lord that cows don't fly in Kansas. There's a shortage of good whores in Kansas, (2x) There's a shortage of good whores, But there's keyholes in the doors, And there's knotholes in the floors in Kansas. Oh, they say to drink's a sin in Kansas, (2x) Oh, they say to drink's a sin, But they guzzle all they kin, And the Drys are voted in in Kansas. They drink their whiskey neat in Kansas, (2x0 They drink their whiskey neat "Til it knocks them off their feet, And it petrifies their meat in Kansas. Oh, I chased a parson's daughter in Kansas, (2x) Oh, I chased a parson's daughter, And I banged her when I caught her, Now I cannot pass my water in Kansas. There's no paper in the bogs in Kansas, (2x) There's no paper in the bogs, They just sit there 'til it clogs, Then they saw it off in logs in Kansas. If you ever go to jail in Kansas, (2x) If you ever go to jail, And you need a piece of tail, The sheriff's wife is for sale in Kansas. Ed Cray, 1992, The Erotic Muse, pp. 50-51 with sheet music. Univ. Illinois Press. Cray suggests that "In Kansas" came before "In Mobile." |
10 Nov 06 - 04:35 PM (#1882514) Subject: ADD Version: In Kansas (Greenway) From: Q (Frank Staplin) IN KANSAS (Greenway) 1. They chaw tobacco thin In Kansas They chaw tobacco thin In Kansas They chaw tobacco thin And they spit it on their chin And they lap it up agin In Kansas. 2. Oh they churn the butter well In Kansas Oh they churn the butter well In Kansas Oh they churn the butter well And the buttermilk they sell And they get lean as hell In Kansas. 3. Oh potatoes they grow small In Kansas Oh potatoes they grow small In Kansas Oh potatoes they grow small And they dig 'em in the fall And they eat 'em hides and all In Kansas. 4. Oh they say that drink's a sin In Kansas Oh they say that drink's a sin In Kansas Oh they say that drink's a sin So they guzzle all they kin And they throw it up again In Kansas. 5. Come all who want to roam In Kansas Come all who want to roam In Kansas Come all who want to roam And seek yourself a home And be happy with your doom In Kansas. "...dates from the latter part of the nineteenth century..." Page 212-213, John Greenway, 1953, "American Songs of Protest," Univ. Pennsylvania Press (also Oxford Press). |