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03 May 05 - 05:44 PM (#1477368) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: There is only one river / River of Jordan From: GUEST,jenniferholohan@eircom.net Sorry i have'nt a clue how this thread thingy works...I am hoping someone will see this and reply!!!!! Years and years ago I sang a song about a Tinker (Traveller) anda noble woman.....it was a bit bawdy ...and concerned a man called brave Donnelly...... Part of the lyrics went as follows... The is a noble lady and shes going to a ball and she spies a jolly tinker hammering cans against the wall with your brave O'Donnelly fair enough said she There's good men like young Donnelly he is the boy for me... He sauntered through the kitchen and he sauntered through the hall etc... I would really like to obtain the rest of the lyrics..... |
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03 May 05 - 07:50 PM (#1477479) Subject: RE: Req: Noble Lady & Tinker & Brave Donnelly From: Joe Offer I moved this over from a thread on a Peter, Paul, and Mary song. Not much chance of getting a response there, so maybe this new thread will help. I tried to find the song through the usual resources, but didn't have any luck. Apparently, there's a song about a "Brave Donnelly" who was a boxer. That's not the one. -Joe Offer- |
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04 May 05 - 03:23 AM (#1477614) Subject: RE: Req: Noble Lady & Tinker & Brave Donnelly From: MartinRyan Aaaagh! isn't there a Clancys song with a similar structure? "..and it's 'deed I am, Don't you know I am With me whack-al-oor-aladdy But indeed I am" There's a similar verse too. Regards |
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04 May 05 - 05:19 AM (#1477664) Subject: RE: Req: Noble Lady & Tinker & Brave Donnelly From: GUEST,Declan This song, or something very similar was recorded by Stockton's wing on their first album, about 1977 or 1978. I'll post the lyrics if I get a chance. |
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04 May 05 - 12:25 PM (#1477951) Subject: RE: Req: Noble Lady & Tinker & Brave Donnelly From: Malcolm Douglas It was a common enough song in its day, and still turns up from time to time; not infrequently in much-condensed (and sometimes frankly obscene) forms. You can trace it back to a London broadside song of the second half of the 17th century, Room for a Jovial Tinker, in which the hero is only disguised as a Tinker in order to get into the house without attracting suspicion. In later forms the subterfuge is dropped and we get instead a real Tinker and more sex. Number 863 in the Roud Folk Song Index; examples are listed from most English-speaking countries. For various texts and more background (including links to broadside editions), see thread Duchess and the Sailor. I don't know how that Donnelly fellow got into a version of it, but all sorts of strange things happen with songs like this. |
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04 May 05 - 01:56 PM (#1478022) Subject: RE: Req: Noble Lady & Tinker & Brave Donnelly From: MartinRyan Yeah - "The Jolly Tinker" is what I was t(h)inking of! Regards |
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04 May 05 - 02:08 PM (#1478033) Subject: RE: Req: Noble Lady & Tinker & Brave Donnelly From: nutty The broadside of The Jovial Tinker circa 1670 can be seen HERE |
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04 May 05 - 10:30 PM (#1478440) Subject: RE: Req: Noble Lady & Tinker & Brave Donnelly From: GUEST,Lighter There was a noble lady and she dressing for the ball, When she spied a jolly tinker hammering pots against the wall. And it's brave Old Donnelly, Good enough ! says she, There's good blood in that Donnelly And he's the boy for me ! He sought her in the kitchen and he sought her in the hall, He sought her in the parlor mid the servants great and small. Then she pulled out a whistle and she blew it loud and shrill, And forty fat policemen came a running o'er the hill. The tinker was arrested, and he was thrown in jail, She paid a hundred pounds to get another man out on bail. ...Or so I remember it from many years ago. I learned it indirectly from Liam's Brother. Not only has Donnelly the prizefighter apparently gotten into the song; stanza 3 has been adapted from Robin Hood ballads. |
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05 May 05 - 12:45 AM (#1478521) Subject: ADD: Brave Old Donnelly From: Joe Offer That's the hint we needed, Lighter. I wonder what's beocme of Liam's Brother (Dan Milner), now that we rarely see him any more. Must be tough on him, working for a living and all... Brave Old Donnelly It's of a noble lady and she coming from a ball, And she spied that jolly tinker hammering pots against her wall. CHORUS And it's brave old Donnelly, "Good enough, "says she. "There's good blood in that Donnelly And he's the boy for me!" He sauntered through the kitchen and he sauntered through the hail. And he sauntered through the parlour over nobles great and small. CHORUS She then went up the stairs all for to make the bed, But in two steps he was after her and he tapped her on the bed. CHORUS She then went down the stairs for to bolt and bar the door And in two steps he was after her and he tapped her on the floor. CHORUS She then took our her whistle and she blew it loud and shrill And twenty fat policemen came a-running down the hill. CHORUS She then had him arrested and he got six months in jail Then she went in behind his back, let another man out on bail. CHORUS It's of a noble lady and she coming from a ball, She spied that jolly tinker hammering pots against her wall. CHORUS Source: A Bonny Bunch of Roses: Songs of England, Ireland, and Scotland, Dan Milner & Paul Kaplan Milner's notes: John Beggan, a singer and mandolin player from Dublin, taught me this great version of "The Jolly Tinker." I once recorded it with Declan Hunt in Boston, but mercifully our rendition was never issued. The song goes well in either jig or polka time. (e-mail sent to requestor) Click to play |
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05 May 05 - 08:06 AM (#1478662) Subject: RE: Req: Noble Lady & Tinker & Brave Old Donnelly From: GUEST,Lighter Thanks, Joe. I knew something was missing. Memory loss is the soul of tradition. |
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05 May 05 - 09:05 AM (#1478691) Subject: RE: Req: Noble Lady & Tinker & Brave Old Donnelly From: GUEST,Declan The Stockton's Wing version I referred to above is essentially the same as the one Joe posted above except that Mr Donelly 'knocked' her rather than 'tapped' her. I suspect neither verb is the same as the original! |
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