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06 May 05 - 10:24 AM (#1479374) Subject: Lyr Req: jennifer, jenny, rosemary? From: GUEST,jo I hope this isnt already out in the db somewhere but i couldnt see it.... - then again, i don't know the title. heard this one last week, sung by people who usually do american folk but i don't know much about this one - the refrain is jennifer, jenny, rosemary, and the story is about a wife who doesnt make a husband is dinner. In response he kills a sheep, ties its hide to her back and beats it with a stick, because while beating your wife is wrong it is perfectly alright to tan a hide. I really liked it and wondered if anyone else knows it...? cheers jo |
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06 May 05 - 10:30 AM (#1479380) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: jennifer, jenny, rosemary? From: The Borchester Echo There's Child Ballad #1, Riddles Wisely Expounded, aka Juniper (Jennifer) Gentian (Gentle) & Rosemary which exists in many versions in the DT. I imagine this is another parody. |
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06 May 05 - 10:35 AM (#1479387) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: jennifer, jenny, rosemary? From: DMcG It sounds more like 'The Wee Cooper of Fife' to me - its in the DT. |
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06 May 05 - 10:38 AM (#1479391) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: jennifer, jenny, rosemary? From: GUEST Gentle Fair Jenny or a varient? |
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06 May 05 - 11:49 AM (#1479446) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: jennifer, jenny, rosemary? From: GUEST,leeneia She causes him inconvenience, he risks killing or crippling her, and you think that's a good thing to sing about? |
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06 May 05 - 03:11 PM (#1479566) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: jennifer, jenny, rosemary? From: GUEST,Mrr Better to sing about than do! Reminds me of Jennifer Gentle and Rosemary, which has nothing to do with this song, apparently. |
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16 May 05 - 03:40 AM (#1485859) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: jennifer, jenny, rosemary? From: GUEST,jo thanks for those clues - yes, seem to be versions of the same, close enough for me to put together my own, anyhow... and leeneia...folk music is stuffed full of mindless violence, and yes, i like to sing about it. so do lots of other people... |
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16 May 05 - 01:35 PM (#1486098) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: jennifer, jenny, rosemary? From: Malcolm Douglas I see that a list of links has now appeared at the top of the page; you will find them helpful. I'll add a couple more: Ruggleton's Daughter of Iero (two Somerset examples, with tunes) The Daughter Of Peggy, O (the second Somerset version quoted above, as edited for The Penguin Book of English Folk Songs, 1959) Number 277 in Child, English and Scottish Popular Ballads. Whatever we may think of the story, the fact remains that it has been a very widespread and popular song-group, appearing in many forms and under many names. Few 20th century folk-song collectors failed to come across it, sung by women as well as men (it also appears in various nursery-rhyme collections). For three versions recorded from Ozark tradition between 1959 and 1972, see The Max Hunter Folk Song Collection. The basic story is quite old. Child thought it likely derived from a broadside ballad issued in London in the later 16th century, A merry jeste of a shrewde and curste wyfe lapped in Morrelles skin for her good behauyour. |
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16 Apr 18 - 10:43 AM (#3917646) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: jennifer, jenny, rosemary? From: GUEST,Julie Mainstone If you're still interested, 13 years after original post, "Gently, Jinny, Fair Rosemary" from Carrie Grover's songbook, "A Heritage of Songs" pp 68-9 is another version of the song you're referring to. |