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25 Oct 05 - 07:35 PM (#1590775) Subject: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament From: erinmaidin Been wondering about "Moneymore"...re. "and the boys will surely miss him when Moneymore comes around. What is "Moneymore"???? My guess is some sort of holiday regarding pay from the harvest...but can only find place names of the like. Anyone??? |
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25 Oct 05 - 07:45 PM (#1590776) Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament From: Q (Frank Staplin) This fair was defined in thread 71328, Bantry Girl: Bantry Girl See post by Big Tim, 12 Aug 05, 03:45AM |
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18 Apr 11 - 04:22 AM (#3137246) Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament From: GUEST,Dave Clinch Could it be the landlord coming for the rent? |
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18 Apr 11 - 04:32 AM (#3137251) Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament From: MartinRyan It's a placename, alright. Reference is to a sports team, basically, - the "hurling matches" mentioned earlier in the verse. Regards |
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07 Jun 11 - 08:36 PM (#3166811) Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament From: GUEST I think its a rival hurling team....." the boys will surely miss him when Moneymore ....( the rival team ) comes round |
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08 Jun 11 - 06:34 AM (#3166995) Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament From: GUEST,John Moulden As Big Tim (RIP) gave it in the other thread, it was originally Moneyhore rather than Moneymore and the reference is to a fair that was held there. |
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08 Jun 11 - 08:14 AM (#3167038) Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament From: Fiolar The word actually means "Big Grove" (Irish - Muine Mor)and was probably the name of a townland. |
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08 Jun 11 - 03:29 PM (#3167229) Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament From: MARINER Moneyhore ,( Muine Hór, Hore's Shubbery )is in the Civil Parish of Rossdroit ,Barony of Bantry ,in the Enniscorthy Union.Election District of The Leap. In the County of Wexford. |
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08 Jun 11 - 07:16 PM (#3167326) Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament From: MartinRyan Thank you, MARINER. How's tricks? |
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09 Jun 11 - 05:06 PM (#3167937) Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament - Moneymore?? From: MARINER Not bad Martin, just getting back in order again after my fall last Sept. See you in Feakle ? |
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09 Jun 11 - 05:38 PM (#3167955) Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament - Moneymore?? From: MartinRyan That's the plan, alright! Glad you're on the mend. Regards |
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08 Dec 16 - 01:31 PM (#3825302) Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament - Moneymore?? From: GUEST,Colin McAllister, Ulster Singer One theory I heard is that Moneymore was the landlord's agent. Thought to have been a landservant recruited in Ulster to collect rents, Moneymore had a reputation as a thug and enjoyed 'threatening' tenants who were old or in difficulties. One imagines (therefore) that Johnny (the hero of the song) was able to 'neutralise' the behaviour of this bully. |
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08 Dec 16 - 02:48 PM (#3825317) Subject: RE: Folklore: re.bantry girl's lament - Moneymore?? From: GUEST,Martin Ryan See MARINER's post above. That's the real deal. Regards p.s. I've often heard this song described as being from Cork (understandable but wrong) - but an Ulster origin is a new one on me! |