It just shows you what happens when you stay away from an interesting thread for too long. Someone like Gwen comes along and in her own quiet way, shakes the whole thread up. I am glad she cleared up this whole thing about Griffith and South Africa. However, after reading Gwen's comments about Griffith, I cannot say that she has made me change my mind about him as she admits that he was self-righteous and that he did talk down to people. I never knew him personally, but I am sure that he was a splendid man to know - contentious people are rarely boring. It would be nice if they repeated a number of his key films so that we can judge them again. His film on Tom Paine was not too bad although, again, I found his partisan view made me question what he said rather than make me accept it.

I am sorry about the comment I made about where he should be buried. It was crass and silly and I should not have said it.