Subject: Lyr Add:: RON CON COCA-COLA (from Aaron y su Grupo From: Jim Dixon Date: 10 Jul 15 - 01:01 AM Another Spanish version. These lyrics copied from Musica.com: RON CON COCA-COLA As recorded by Aaron y Su Grupo Ilusion CHORUS: Tomando ron con Coca-Cola ay dicen papá y mamá no te enamoraras y asi te divertirás. REPEAT. 1. La otra tarde fui a bailar en el barrio la pastora y una chica tentadora me decía en su cantar... 2. "Si tu quieres parrandear vengase conmigo ahora vamos a pasar las horas baila y baila sin parar" CHORUS TWICE Ay sabor! Mucho sabor... 3. la otra tarde fui a bailar en el barrio la pastora y una chica tentadora me decía en su cantar. 4. "Si tu quieres parrandear vengase conmigo ahora vamos a pasar las horas baila y baila sin parar" CHORUS 4X |
Subject: Lyr Add: RON Y COCA-COLA (from Julio Iglesias) From: Jim Dixon Date: 10 Jul 15 - 12:33 AM There seem to be at least 2 Spanish versions. Here's one of them. These lyrics copied from Cifras.com.br RON Y COCA-COLA As recorded by Julio Iglesias [CHORUS] Ron y Coca Cola, Dame un beso, Lola Ven conmigo a bailar No quiero que estés tan sola 1. Con el calor de Trinidad En una noche tropical Estando solos junto al mar Lola me enseño a tomar 2. Y bailamos hasta amancer Y yo mi amor le confesé Nos abrazamos otra vez Tanto calor nos dió mas sed 3. Si quiere usted sentir igual Venga una noche a Trinidad Calor y ritmo tropical Le harán reir le harán tomar |
Subject: Lyr Add: RHUM ET COCA-COLA (from Jean Sablon) From: Jim Dixon Date: 08 Jul 15 - 10:17 PM I happened to discover that Spotify has several recordings of a French version. Then I looked up these lyrics: Lyrics copied from www.GreatSong.net. RHUM ET COCA-COLA interprétée par Jean Sablon 1. Si par hasard un jour vous allez À l'île de la Trinité Vous serez surpris de constater Que là-bas on fait tout sans se presser {Refrain:} Tout en causant du temps qu'il fera Au pied des quinquinas Et en buvant chaque fois Rhum rhum rhum et Coca-Cola 2. C'est la seule boisson de tout l' pays Il faut prendre ça ou bien d' l'eau de pluie C'est à cause d'elle que dans la vie On fait tout tout tout au ralenti 3. Le porteur chargé d' vous apporter Votre malle qu'est trop lourde à porter Arrivera vers minuit passé En disant "J' suis venu sans trop m' presser" {au Refrain} 4. Le facteur qui porte le courrier Vous amène d'un air essoufflé Un télégramme de l'an passé Et poursuit tranquillement sa tournée {au Refrain} 5. Ainsi va la vie sans trop s' presser Pour qu'on ait l' temps d'en profiter Et les braves gens d' la Trinité Passeront au Ciel l' Éternité {au Refrain} Pourquoi donc n'essayez vous pas Rhum and [sic] Coca-Cola? (x2} |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: Ed T Date: 27 Apr 15 - 03:47 PM Not the song you seek, but a good related one:) Candy Brandy |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: GUEST,Doug Gifford Date: 27 Apr 15 - 03:39 PM I have another final verse from what sounds like the original recording of this. There's the verse about the honeymooning couple, then Invader adds: I wonder what is the [yankee's] opinion; we have lots of [can't make this out] We never said Coca Cola; Neither did we say yankee dollar couldn't find this on YouTube but here's the iTunes address https://itunes.apple.com/ca/album/rum-and-coca-cola/id565936277?i=565936457 |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: GUEST,999 Date: 27 Aug 12 - 08:16 AM Good article about Rum and Coca Cola. If that link was posted before, sorry. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: MorwenEdhelwen1 Date: 27 Aug 12 - 05:05 AM *with* |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: MorwenEdhelwen1 Date: 27 Aug 12 - 05:03 AM I get kind of irritated by the misaimed fandom of this song. A lot of people I know seem to like it because it's so upbeat, completely missing the point. It's about how "those American soldiers are overpaid, oversexed and over here, and they're "stealing our women". Yeah, a man going mad because his wife ran off an American. That's so happy. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: GUEST Date: 20 Nov 11 - 06:47 PM Just a correction on the place names in Trinidad, which refer to actual places, of course. Point Cumana is on the Southern side of the North-West peninsula, near the place called Carenage. Monos and Chacachacare are islands between that North-West peninsula and Venezuela. They are a short boat ride away from Point Cumana. Monos is the closest island; Chacachacare is farthest away. Manzanilla Beach is on the opposite side of Trinidad. A very long sandy beach on the Atlantic coast on the East. I don't know if spellings were correct in the original lyrics, but transcribers obviously would not have known. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 27 May 11 - 09:13 PM Lyr. Add: Rum and Coca-Cola (1949) Anon. If you eat too much It's not good for you And if you love too much That is bad too. It will kill you bye and bye But oh what a pleasant way to die. Chorus: Drinking rum and Coca-cola Down Point Kumanna Both mother and daughter Working for the Yankee dollar. I had a girl she was fat and tall I took her to the Newspaper masquerade ball Her dress caught a-fire Burn in entire Front page and sports section and all. Chorus: Jamaican boy drink his papa's rum His mammy spanked him when he was done He got sick and he got plastered She said go to bed you little love child. Chorus: A little boy sat down and cried An old man passing asked him why He said he couldn't do what big boys do The old man sat down and he cried too. p. 7, Jamaican Calypso Songs, anon., 1949, The Gleaner Co., Ltd., Kingston, Jamaica, BWI. Reproduced in website http://www.mentomusic.com/images/jcs7.jpg |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: MorwenEdhelwen1 Date: 17 May 11 - 02:27 AM Thanks. EDIT: "Posted". |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: MGM·Lion Date: 16 May 11 - 11:43 PM Morwen, I would suggest "posted" as the best word here. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: MorwenEdhelwen1 Date: 16 May 11 - 06:38 PM EDIT: Sorry, "Published"?, I meant "uploaded". |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: MorwenEdhelwen1 Date: 16 May 11 - 06:35 PM And an interesting fact: according to an article published on the "Rum and Coca-Cola Reader" website mentioned further up on this thread, Invader himself actually didn't think that "Rum and Coca-Cola" was that good. He believed that "You Don't Need Glasses to See" and "That Old-Time Cat O'Nine" (which I have a thread on) were much better. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: MorwenEdhelwen1 Date: 16 May 11 - 06:12 PM The original lyrics are much better. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: Don Firth Date: 16 May 11 - 05:51 PM Maybe the Andrews Sisters recorded it a couple of times. In the early 1940's, I was just a kid, but I heard the bloody think coming out of radios and juke boxes until you wanted to scream, "Make it stop! Make it stop!" I distinctly remember the "Go down Point Cumana" line. Don Firth P. S. Jeez! Now I can't get the damned thing out of my head!! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 16 May 11 - 02:25 PM Good map of Trinidad showing both locations- http://www.trinoutdoors.com/pages/map.htm |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 16 May 11 - 02:22 PM Several items on Manzanilla Beach, and resorts on the overlying ridge, on google. The Beach, and Bay, are eastside: http://www.trinoutdoors.com/pages/beaches.htm#Manzanilla Not the same area as Cumana, which is northeast (but not far). |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: MGM·Lion Date: 16 May 11 - 01:46 PM Genie ~Agree re Manzanilla. And many thanks for that fine 60s version. But still seeking that 1940s one... |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: Genie Date: 16 May 11 - 01:26 PM BTW, I'm pretty sure the beach referred to in the song is "Manzanilla Beach." I've never heard of "Manzanella Beach" and could not find any reference to it via Google. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: Genie Date: 16 May 11 - 01:08 PM You can hear the Andrews Sisters (recorded for Dot Records) here: Andrews Sisters - Rum & Coca Cola |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: MGM·Lion Date: 16 May 11 - 11:20 AM I had a 10" 78 rpm Andrews Sisters record of this about 1946, in which the 2nd line of the chorus was definitely "Go down Point Cumana" ~~ there was certainly no "ooh-la-la" about it. I am not sure of the label, but it was certainly a British one, & I think it might have been HMV purple-label. But I do most definitely remember that the flip-side was One Meat Ball. Can anyone identify the recording from this info? ~Michael~ |
Subject: Lyr. Add: Rum and Cocoanut Water From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 22 Apr 10 - 11:30 PM In the same booklet (thanks for the link- interesting songs) another derivative I had not heard before. Lyr. Add: Rum and Cocoanut Water 1 Now honey, won't you come with me Let's go back to the West Indie. For Baby can't you see I've lost my pep and energy. 2 What I need is Rum and Cocoanut Water Rum and Cocoanut Water Rum and Cocoanut Water I cannot get in America. 3 I remember when I was young I was very robust and strong But now as I walk on the street I feel a weakness into my feet. 4 So I am going back to Jamaica where I can get Cocoanut Water For where'er in the world I roam Sweet Jamaica's my happy home. 5 Yes, I am going back to the West Indies America is too cold for me. I'll settle down in any old home town Where we have sunshine all the year roun'. 6 For in America they have snow But in Jamaica it is not so And my Body is getting old I am not able to stand the cold. 7 Now baby when I get home Never more will I roam Underneath the bright sunny sky I'll live in Jamaica until I die. |
Subject: Lyr Add: RUM AND COCA-COLA From: Jim Dixon Date: 22 Apr 10 - 10:23 PM Here's the transcription of the lyrics that Matt Milton found, at Mento Music. It is a scan of a booklet said to be printed probably in the 1950s. I have added some punctuation: RUM AND COCA-COLA 1. If you eat too much, it's not good for you And if you love too much, that is bad, too. It will kill you by and by, But, oh, what a pleasant way to die. CHORUS: Drinking rum and Coca-Cola. Down Point Kumanna [sic] Both mother and daughter Working for the Yankee dollar. 2. I had a girl; she was fat and tall. I took her to the newspaper masquerade ball. Her dress caught fire, burn in entire Front page and sports page section and all. 3. Jamaican boy drink his papa's rum. His mammy spanked him when he was done. He got sick and he got plastered. She said, "Go to bed, you little love child." 4. A little boy sat down and cried. An old man passing asked him why. He said he couldn't do what the big boys do. The old man sat down and he cried too. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: beeliner Date: 20 Apr 10 - 09:41 AM Amsterdam's attorneys argued that the album notes of the calypso anthology which included "L'Annee Paase" stated (paraphrasing)'...these songs have been passed down from generation to generation...", and this was their strongest point, because if that were true, the melodies would be in the public domain. But that was, of course, merely sales talk. Belasco's authorship and copyright were easily shown to be valid. My copy of the Andrews sisters' recording definitely has "Go down Point Cumana". |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: matt milton Date: 19 Apr 10 - 02:45 PM I noticed a whole entirely different set of lyrics here: http://www.mentomusic.com/images/jcs7.jpg I doubt these are "the original" lyrics at all - particularly as they are from a 1950s booklet called "Jamaican Calypso Songs" and R&CC is Trinidadian. However, these lyrics are great. They have nothing to do with the sense of the chorus - they're basically just 'floater' lyrics in the fine tradition of folksong bawdy/nonsense/childish floater lyrics a la fiddle tunes, worksongs etc. They do read like the sort of thing a naughty Calypsonian would write. The last verse is equal parts Benny Hill and Samuel Beckett! |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: Azizi Date: 22 Nov 08 - 10:11 AM Kevin Burke, my compliments to you on your interesting and informative website about the song "Rum and Coca Cola". I've bookmarked that site and intend to visit it often. I took the advice that you gave in your home page and began by reading the "Rum And Coca Cola Trail" page. I found your well documented account of the history of that song and the plagiarism trail to be fascinating. And I smiled at this ending portion: "In 1973 MCA Records (MCA had bought out Decca) released a double album of the Andrews Sisters' greatest hits. On side one, band four is the greatest of their greatest, "Rum and Coca-Cola". One wishes that the singing group had still been together at that point to add one more verse. It would have gone like this: "When Morey sang at the USO, The soldiers really loved the show. But when he stole Invader's song, The Yankee judge say he was wrong. Drinkin' rum and Coca-Cola . . ." -snip- I'm wondering if you intend to add some related pages about the history and lyrics to songs of other early calypsonians like Attila The Hun and Radio. That would be great since it's difficult to find online and offline information {particularly anecdotal information} about early Calysonians and lyrics to their songs. Best wishes to you and your website! Azizi |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: GUEST,Kevin Burke Date: 21 Nov 08 - 09:16 AM Update: My site is up. Here is the link: http://www.rumandcocacolareader.com I look forward to hearing from anyone interested in the song. Kevin Burke Cambridge, Massachusetts |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: GUEST,Bob Coltman Date: 01 Sep 08 - 08:05 AM Leadfingers, responding to your 2004 message, It appears there are quite a number of "blue" verses to this song ... and that, in fact, "Rum and Coca-Cola" may have had bawdy versions quite early on. It would be good if we could reconstruct what some of those versions are. Quite a few of us out here are interested in recovering lesser known items from Anglo-American bawdy tradition. So I, for one, would love to see those verses you sang in the RAAF. Do you think you could bring yourself to add them to this thread? You can always put in a line first saying something like Warning Bawdy Verses Ahead, or whatever. And anyone else who has bawdy verses to this song, please add them too. Post 'em anonymously if you will, but post 'em! Thanks, Bob |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: GUEST Date: 31 Aug 08 - 11:45 AM .. Sailor boy sit down in the sand With $2.00 in his hand Up come a native girl.sit down in his lap two weeks later (clap,clap.clap).... |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: GUEST,Laura Freedman Date: 20 Feb 08 - 07:31 AM Hi Kevin, I saw your post on the song, "Rum and Coca Cola", and had a question for you. When I lived in France in the late 1980's, a popular "alternative" radio station called Radio Nova used to play lots of obscure music from all over. This was the first time I heard the song – but the version was much more recent – probably mid/late-80's - and came with its own unique twist… The singer was male and sang in a gravel-voiced Brooklyn Jewish accent. The lyrics were overtly political, and an early leftist critique of globalization: "Workin' for the Yankee dollar" was framed in the context of exploited workers. The one line I remember is, "Listen up, you dumb shlamuzzel – you oughta fight the bosses, not your sister and your brother!" I've scoured the net and even wrote to Radio Nova (the radio station), but I haven't found any reference to it. Have you come across it? Thanks! Laura |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: GUEST,Kevin Burke Date: 24 Jan 08 - 10:10 AM Notice to all calypsophiles. I am planning to put up a website devoted to "Rum and Coca-Cola" and to the two copyright infringement lawsuits which followed the release of the Andrews Sisters' version of the song. I would be happy to correspond with anyone else interested in the song. You can contact me directly at kburke9@mac.com. At the moment I am interested in getting information about Jeri Sullavan's career after 1944. I would also like to get short biographies of two Trinidadians - Cecil Voisin and Cedric Espinet - who helped Lord Invader get to New York and launch the "Khan vs. Feist" lawsuit. Thanks. Kevin Burke Cambridge, Massachusetts |
Subject: a different Rum and Coca Cola From: GUEST,m'hoop Date: 15 Mar 07 - 06:42 AM hey, does anyone know this other song, not the song being discussed here but a funky song from the 70's that opens with the line (& may even be called) 'rum & coca cola..' but has a chorus that goes 'i'm looking through you, yes i am, & that should do you..(something something..dont remember the rest) . Any ideas? i heard this song years ago & never found out who it was by & would love to hear it again. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 11 Dec 06 - 08:29 PM My recording of Lord Invader was made live in 1946 at Town Hall, New York (Rounder, "Midnight Calypso"). Little difference from the words posted above; no other verses. 1. OK Cho. Line 3- Mothers and daughters- both plural Line 4- Yankee dollar(s)- sometimes sounded plural. 2. OK 3. Line 4- But you would see them with the foreigners ... 4, Line 2- And was to go to Miami .... |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 11 Dec 06 - 03:06 PM I'll check my recording of 'Rum...' by Lord Invader tonight, and post if no one else has done it. He added or changed material for different performances, so it will just be one version. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: GUEST,Miss Parker Date: 11 Dec 06 - 10:30 AM Are these the complete lyrics to Rum and Coca Cola by Lord Invader... Rum and Coca Cola (1943) Lord Invader Since the Yankees come to Trinidad, They have the young girls all goin' mad. The young girls say they treat'em nice, And they give them a better price. Chorus They buy rum an' Coca Cola, Go down to Point Cumana. Both mother and daughter, Working for the Yankee dollar. Ah, look I had a little chick the other day, But her mother came and took her away, Herself, her mother and her sisters, Went in a cab with some soldiers. (Chorus) Chorus: Rum and Coca-Cola, Go down Point Cumana. They have some aristos in Port of Spain, I know a lot, but I won't call name, And in the day they wouldn't give you a right But you might see them with the foreigners late at night, drinking (chorus) I know a couple who got married one afternoon, And was to go Miami on their honeymoon, But the bride run away with a soldier lad, And the stupid husband went staring mad. (Chorus) ...or are some verses missing? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: Gurney Date: 09 Sep 06 - 07:58 PM Maybe the Andrews Sisters recorded several versions. My (newish) CD has the 'Point Cumana' line. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 09 Sep 06 - 01:30 PM More on 'snark' and its origin: Snark in various forms is common in German and Scandanavian language- to gnash, snort, or snore. It's origin is at least medieval. Found in English writings by the 1860's. Jamieson's Scottish Dictionary in 1882 defined 'to snark' as 'to fret, grumble, or find fault with someone'. By the early 1900's snarky was firmly in English, meaning irritable, short-tempered. In the popular "Railway Children," by Nesbit, is found " Don't be snarky, Peter. It isn't our fault." R. Fay, "Letters," 1912, wrote "So sorry I seem so snarkish just now." As noted above, another meaning and use of 'snark'- 'Lewis Carroll' gave the name to an imaginary animal (1876). By 1879, 'snark-hunting' became popular, and quickly entered political commentary. Defining snarky as 'sarcastic' bends the meaning a bit; not yet found in the OED, but this meaning has entered slang. Sometimes shortened to 'narky'. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: GUEST,Project10 Date: 09 Sep 06 - 12:19 PM Sarky is the standard English slang term for Sacastic, Snarky sounds like a misspelling that stuck. Worked at a venue that played the Andrews Sisters version of Rum and Coca Cola, really gets in to your head doesn't it. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: robomatic Date: 18 Aug 05 - 07:50 AM I Memorized "Fit The First" from THOTS for an English class poetry requirement. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 17 Aug 05 - 08:23 PM Long ago, Lewis Carroll wrote the nonsense poem, The Hunting of the Snark." But, like the Alice books, it is seldom read anymore. Jack London's "The Cruise of the Snark" is also lost to modern readers. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: Azizi Date: 17 Aug 05 - 07:39 PM Off-topic... I think that the definition has changed for "snark". There certainly have been times when such a snarky or sarcastic signal would have been helpful around here.... |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 17 Aug 05 - 02:31 PM Lord Invader collected a tidy sum from Amsterdam for his plagiarism. As, I think, Belasco did for the tune. Snarky- good word! Pops up around 1906 (Webster's Collegiate and OED) but means snappish or ill-tempered. It could have changed meanings recently, however, as some of these slang words have. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: Azizi Date: 17 Aug 05 - 02:07 PM kirstenanderberg, were you trying to be snarky? {"snark" is a word I've seen used on the blogosphere which I think means "witty sarcasm"}. You don't really think that Morey Amsterdam composed Rum and Coca Cola, do you? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: kirstenanderberg Date: 17 Aug 05 - 12:12 PM Wow! I had NO idea Morey Amsterdam wrote that song!! LOL! That is GREAT! I learned that song in high school in the 1970's because our high school was doing a musical review of music over the ages, and I was one fo the girls chosen to immitate the Andrew Sisters. Maxine Andrews attended the high school show (it was in LA) and gave the three of us autographed pictures somewhere. I still have it. I learned the Rum and Coca Cola song off some anthology of Andrew Sisters recordings, it was a several record set. I remember it being pinkish on the cover. And my mother is a classically trained musician and music teacher and when we would watch the Dick Van Dyke Show, she would always say "Morey Amsterdam is a real musician tho, he really can play classical cello and he is a real musician, he is not playing one as an actor." My mom would also say that about Jerry Van Dyke when he would guest on that show and on Andy Griffith Show. My mom would always remind us that Jerry Van Dyke was actually a "real" musician. So it is funny now to find out Morey Amsterdam is a composer of pop songs! I did not know that... |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: GUEST,Roger Arias Date: 04 Aug 05 - 03:17 AM I may be able to help you with the spanish words to Drinking Rum and Coca Cola. While Clotilde is no longer with us, her son (my father) is alive and living in Maryland. He has much of the music and lyrics that his mother wrote and I would be pleased to look this up for you if you are interested. Kindest regards, Roger Francis Anduaga-Arias II PS. Since I just happened onto this forum and am unlikely to get back here very often, please write to rogerarias2@gmail.com |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: alanabit Date: 25 Jun 05 - 05:06 PM I think you may have to start a new thread to find your song. Good luck. |
Subject: "...a woman drink so much rum" From: GUEST,jt Date: 25 Jun 05 - 04:53 PM I'm looking for a calypso song I recently heard played live in a small bar on the Caribbean side of Costa Rica. The musicians couldn't think of a recording of the song, but said it's called "Rum." The chorus goes something like... "I never seen a woman drink so much rum She does the cooking, she does the cleaning And then she falls down." Anyone familiar with it? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rum and Coca Cola From: dick greenhaus Date: 16 May 05 - 01:29 PM Me islan gal have figure fine Just like Trinudad's coast line But there's one thing that is quite plain She's a little plump about Port Au Spain |
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