BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 24 Mar 06 - 06:15 AM

I can hear him now.... Hey fuckin Speaker, piss on the hounourable member.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 23 Mar 06 - 09:37 PM

And if it's upto Ashley, they will NOT be wearing FOTLs.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: bobad
Date: 23 Mar 06 - 09:35 PM

The army's already in training.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 23 Mar 06 - 09:29 PM

If he gets in, how long will it be before we invade the USA?

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: bobad
Date: 23 Mar 06 - 09:18 PM

Ashley MacIsaac announces his intention to run for the Liberal leadership. http://www.cbc.ca/ns/story/ns-macisaac20060323.html

It's about time we had a professional fiddler in Ottawa.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: bobad
Date: 09 Mar 06 - 11:51 AM

Now that you mention it

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Metchosin
Date: 09 Mar 06 - 10:51 AM

On a lighter note, has anyone besides me noted how much Peter MacKay looks like one of the goons from the old Popeye cartoons?

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: bobad
Date: 08 Mar 06 - 04:57 PM

"Harper is hanging himself by being so pig-headed."

Joe Clark did the same when he headed a minority government causing it to fall.

"Oh when will they ever learn..?"

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Metchosin
Date: 08 Mar 06 - 04:12 PM

But he really may turn out to be Harper's worst nightmare, Dianava, although perhaps not in the way first envisioned. LOL

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 08 Mar 06 - 04:09 PM

Well, we haven't given up protesting like they were hoping.

In fact, the ethics commissioner is now investigating both Harper and Emerson for breach of ethics. Whats really interesting is that Harper is now threatening to fire the ethics comissioner. What a joke. He has to go through the House of Commons for that and I doubt if he would have the support he needs. I think Cluin may be right but I also think that Harper is hanging himself by being so pig-headed.

Unfortunately, I think they are investigating the wrong thing. They should be arresting Emerson for fraud. He said he would be Harper's worst nightmare and it took Liberal money from our riding to run his election campaign.

Emerson exemplifies what is happening to democracy everywhere. Doesn't matter anymore what party you vote for, its the CEO's that are really in power and they will do whatever is necessary to hold on to it.

Here's one of the best articles (published in the Georgia Straight) that I have read on the subject.

http://www.rabble.ca/news_full_story.shtml?x=47400

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Cluin
Date: 08 Mar 06 - 02:47 PM

He's really afraid of his party, the bunch of backstabbing bastards they are. There'll soon be cries of "Kill Piggy!"

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 08 Mar 06 - 01:57 PM

Jaysus, don't give him the idea.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Metchosin
Date: 08 Mar 06 - 12:45 PM

Dianavan, IMO what this does demonstrate is that Harper has about as much understanding of Canadian parliamentary democracy as my dog has of calculus.

He was quoted today as saying that, as Prime Minister (perhaps he was thinking king or president), he has the authority to select and appoint anyone he wishes to a Cabinet post. Obviously being a democratically elected candidate by the Canadian voter is not a prerequisite in his mind. I guess we could be thankful that he didn't publically appoint the whole of the Fraser Institute as cabinet ministers and thereby further circumvent the electoral process.

Aside from his Americanized outlook regarding the power of the office of the Prime Minister, what strikes me also, is his contempt for his fellow Conservatives. His appointments seem to indicate, that of all his duly elected fellow Conservatives, from which he could select, none of them were competent enough to hold a Cabinet post. Perhaps he's right. LOL

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 07:54 PM

Meanwhile, we are half buried in the stuff in Orillia. I got a ladder today and crawled up on top of the big canvas and wood frame quonset hut at the back of the property. Was worried it might collapse under all that snow. Spent about an hour pushing snow off from the top, then discovered that I could slide right down the side, bringing a ton of snow with me to the ground! Kind of fun, but I would have liked it better when I was a kid. I finally got about 95% of the snow off, and had a hot bath afterward.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 07:44 PM

Which means that somewhere, some lucky kid can construct a snowball.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 07:43 PM

We just got nailed, BTW. About 2 mm. Predictions are that it won't last. In fact, most of it's already blown away.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 10:48 AM

I was calling this area the "Banana Belt" until I woke up yesterday. We got belted alright. It's only a matter of time, Peace. And, Old Man Winter still has lots of time to lay a whoopin' on ya.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 10:38 AM

What's snow?

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 10:37 AM

But, you don't even have any snow... yet. Mwwaaahahahahaha.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 10:29 AM

Same way I feel here in Alberta. Fooked!

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 14 Feb 06 - 03:20 AM

So 82% of us in the Vancouver-Kingsway riding did not vote Conservative but we now have a Conservative representing our riding? I thought there was no taxation without representation. I thought my vote counted. I thought this was a democracy.

Worst of all. What does it tell our children?

I didn't protest, yesterday, but I did go to the meeting. All ethic backgrounds, all ages, all outraged. I did sign a petition.

I don't know what else to do. If you did not get to vote for the party of your choice, what would you do? We are the only people in Canada without a vote. How would you feel?

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Feb 06 - 04:06 AM

MP Peter Julian, "Therefore, in our opinion, Mr. Harper may be in breach of Section 8 of the Conflict of Interest Code and I would ask that you investigate this matter."

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 10:10 PM

I need drugs.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 08:40 PM

Yikes! The people of Vancouver center/Kingsway are up in fucking arms about this. They are furious, saying their rights have been trampled on. A petition is being circulated demanding a bi-election. Ian Waddell is saying that Emerson's crossing violated ethical standards because Harper inticed (bribed) him to cross the floor. If so, Harper may have to step down.

Wow. I love it. I'd be so proud if our little riding caused Harper to eat dirt.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Metchosin
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 06:22 PM

Their plan seems to further Balkanize it by destroying federalism, Gnu. Makes it way easier way to pick off. There is a large element in Alberta that has always seemed to admire Texas, much more than what makes up the rest of Canada.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 01:59 PM

"How bout the Francophone secratary from Alberta that can't speak french?"

Seriously? Unfuckingreal. No wonder the PQ want out. If someone treated me that way, I'd want out, too.

One more step to breaking up the country. Tete-merde.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 01:48 PM

My country, tis of your people you are dying.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Metchosin
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 12:47 PM

My hero George, Geoge Strombouloupolis, that is, fried dear Pia Shondell last night when she tried to defend Emerson's move. Poor Pia had a quaver in her voice and its probably the only time the privilidged cow has quavered in her life.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Raptor
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 08:44 AM

How bout the Francophone secratary from Alberta that can't speak french?

It wasn't time for that kind of change.

Raptor

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Cluin
Date: 09 Feb 06 - 04:38 PM

When you're full of gas, the shit always floats to the top.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Metchosin
Date: 09 Feb 06 - 11:41 AM

Emerson's newly appointed assistant is the same Conservative MP who introduced the private member's bill that would have required a by-election to be held in ridings where members cross the Floor. LOL

I wonder if this new government will go after Mulroney for lying under oath regarding his relationship with Schreiber, now that the Airbus scandle has resurfaced?

One thing for certain about politics in Canada, we can always be certain that some lying, self-serving bastard will always be elected.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Metchosin
Date: 09 Feb 06 - 03:46 AM

agreed guest.....and this is the party leader who says he intends to reverse Canadian cynicism regarding politicians. Sounds like more of the same old shit to me.

Regarding retired Brigadier-General O'Connor as Minister of Defence:

"He has since worked as a consultant and in a variety of business operations"

More appropriately and to the point, he has since worked as a government lobbyist for the international armament industry.

And Harper defended his choice of O'Connor despite his previous call for a 5 year ban regarding Liberal lobbyists. It's supposedly different if you're a lobbyist prior to election......and I gather, a Conservative. This is the same fellow that will now hand out defence contracts. Wonder with whom O'Connor plays golf?

You want to know who really pulls the strings? Follow the bucks......

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 09:09 PM

Emerson has been placed so that he can promote oil and gas exploration on B.C.'s fragile coast. He is another politician supported by the energy moguls.

Think about it. Bush, Harper and Emerson. All supported by the oil barons. With Gordon Campbell (a neo-con who calls himself Liberal) as Premier of B.C., it doesn't look good. Talk about consolidating your power!

Scary!

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 07:42 PM

You can say that again without the oxy.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Cluin
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 06:47 PM

The Honourable David Emerson

The Honourable Stockwell Day


There's a couple of oxymorons.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: bobad
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 05:52 PM

"Mr. Flaherty, best known for his work in a variety of portfolios in the Mike Harris governments in Ontario, grabbed plenty of headlines for taking on squeegee kids and the homeless. But one of Mr. Flaherty's lesser-known moves during his years in the Ontario cabinet goes further in revealing the new federal Finance Minister's political philosophy.

It was 2000 and Mr. Flaherty, then Ontario's Attorney-General, jumped on board a private member's bill designed to deal with the perception that dangerous criminals were getting off easy. His support for the bill, to create a registry comparing the sentencing habits of judges, earned Mr. Flaherty sharp criticism from legal circles and among some elites. "

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060207.RFLAHERTY07/TPStory/Business

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: bobad
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 07:34 PM

Day points to AIDS story to explain Arafat snub
The Toronto Star, Monday, November 22, 2004

Stockwell Day is pointing to a published report that includes the suggestion that Yasser Arafat had AIDS in explaining why he didn't send condolences on the death of the PLO leader.

"Some of you have asked why I have not released a statement of condolence or sympathy," the Conservative party's foreign affairs critic wrote in a Nov. 16 e-mail to party colleagues obtained by The Canadian Press.

"As you know, there are two sides to the Arafat story. You pick."

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Leadfingers
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 07:29 PM

200 ??

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 02:01 PM

"I paraded [protested] with Day and his people in front of a school in Red Deer against sex education."

- Jim Green, supporter of anti-Semitic teacher Jim Keegstra, quoted in Briarpatch Magazine, July/August 2000.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 01:57 PM

"Women who become pregnant through rape or incest should not qualify for government-funded abortions unless their pregnancy is life-threatening."

- Stockwell Day, 1995, at an Alberta Conservative party convention.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 01:56 PM

"I want to know how many women in Alberta are physically battered and not just insulted by their husbands... If we talk insulted by their husbands, then I'm afraid that I'm guilty from time to time of abusing my wife."

- Stockwell Day, 1987, disputing a poll indicating one million women had been abused physically, emotionally, sexually or economically.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 01:11 PM

Check out the new Minister of Public Safety. But who will keep us safe from the Minister?

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 10:54 AM

Cabinet.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Charmion
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 09:47 AM

"he-he - I just found out which cabinet position Emerson was given. Looks like Minister of the Olympic Games or something........"

Um, no: the (not very) Honourable Mr. Emerson has just taken the oath as Minister of International Trade, a really important portfolio, especially in BC. He's our man in charge of getting that huge trading partner to the south of us to comply with court rulings on the softwood lumber tariff, among other things.

I hear that International Trade and Foreign Affairs are again in the process of merging (having been integrated in 1993, under Kim Campbell, and split around 2000 [I think], under Chrétien), so Mr. Emerson may lose his seat on the front bench to a departmental reorganization.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 02:03 AM

I can't believe how stupid Harper would be to dismantle the Liberal childcare spaces that were on the brink of becoming a reality. $1200.00 a year is hardly a substitute for the creation of a comprehensive, national childcare policy that was supported by three other parties. It has taken years of research and planning.

Do not let Harper dismantle the Liberal, childcare policy. Change the name to the Canadian, childcare policy if you must but don't trash the program. Its a good program that will give hope to the struggling, urban working mom and dad.

Give the $1200.00 a year to the stay at home, caregiver but give the working people the desperately needed spaces by going forward with the plan. The new spaces are desperately needed. Keep them.

It would be a huge waste of time and energy to do otherwise.

If Harper trashes that program, he will never be re-elected.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 12:39 AM

he-he - I just found out which cabinet position Emerson was given. Looks like Minister of the Olympic Games or something........

Maybe thats not such a bad idea. Emerson knows the territory and has a background in economics.

Even though I feel betrayed by the system, I actually think it might be a good appointment.

I agree that Harper is a hypocrite. I heard that when he talked to Belinda, just before she crossed the floor, he actually kicked a chair.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Cluin
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 09:43 PM

There are those who think it doesn't matter what party your local MP is in if he gets a Cabinet position... it MUST be good for his riding.

I don't hold that belief and I would feel betrayed if I was in Emerson's riding. It souldn't be allowed. Belinda Stronach shouldn't have been allowed to do it either.

Unless we do away with the party system altogether and MPs would have to be true to their local constituents. Would need a major overhaul of the system to make that work, but hey, sounds like a job for the REFORM party, doesn't it?

And I thought the Reform guys wanted to do away with the appointed Senate, make the members have to RUN for a seat there like the US? Now Harper APPOINTS his campaign crony to the Senate so he can give him a juicy Cabinet position without his having to achieve any kind of elected mandate by running for a seat. Okay, so SH didn't break any rules, but what a bunch of fucking hypocrites!

Would Preston Manning have pulled this kind of trick? I was at least developing a bit of respect for him when his party stabbed him in the back and replaced him with that wing-nut Stockwell Day.

Just goes to show you... they're all the same when they get in.

Dianavan, I am beginning to see you are probably right.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 09:28 PM

I'm one who voted for Ian Waddel. My riding is Vancouver-Kingsway. I feel quite sickened by this. Emerson won but I thought, oh well, at least its not a Conservative. This is not a Conservative riding! The Conservatives came in third! I'm outraged. The system has to change. Our votes counted for nothing!

Yes, I know, Belinda did it too. The Conservatives and Liberals are dirty politicians. Thats why I voted for Wadell. You're right, Metchosin, those who voted 'strategically' should shoot themselves. Emerson is a dog. Talk about having no respect for his constituency. I doubt if Emerson will show his face around here in the future. There are plenty of people who would like to tear him apart. He's a traitor.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Cluin
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 08:58 PM

Harper just got sworn in and things are starting to stink already.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 06:30 PM

Stevie Boy also said, re Belinda, there should be a recall clause and anyone wanting to cross should have to be re-elected in a by-election. And, appointing someone to the senate so he can be parashitted into cabinet as a reward? Some of the other cabinet appointments frighten the crap out of me. Jaysus... that was in the first couple of hours.

Hang on tight.