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Ellenpoly 26 Nov 04 - 04:36 AM
dianavan 26 Nov 04 - 03:41 AM
GUEST,SueB 26 Nov 04 - 03:00 AM
Ellenpoly 26 Nov 04 - 02:41 AM
Mudlark 26 Nov 04 - 01:35 AM
Ebbie 25 Nov 04 - 09:58 PM
Blissfully Ignorant 25 Nov 04 - 08:47 PM
Bob Hitchcock 25 Nov 04 - 08:39 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 25 Nov 04 - 08:35 PM
Blissfully Ignorant 25 Nov 04 - 07:31 PM
Liz the Squeak 25 Nov 04 - 07:24 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 25 Nov 04 - 07:01 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 25 Nov 04 - 06:52 PM
Raedwulf 25 Nov 04 - 06:30 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 25 Nov 04 - 06:14 PM
Raedwulf 25 Nov 04 - 06:01 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 25 Nov 04 - 05:03 PM
Georgiansilver 13 Nov 04 - 05:47 PM
Helen 13 Nov 04 - 07:51 AM
Helen 13 Nov 04 - 07:43 AM
GUEST,Deep Thought 13 Nov 04 - 06:09 AM
Mark Cohen 13 Nov 04 - 05:18 AM
chris nightbird childs 13 Nov 04 - 05:01 AM
Gurney 13 Nov 04 - 04:54 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 13 Nov 04 - 02:45 AM
GUEST,.gargoyle 13 Nov 04 - 02:39 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 13 Nov 04 - 02:02 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 13 Nov 04 - 02:01 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 13 Nov 04 - 01:48 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 13 Nov 04 - 01:39 AM
Cluin 13 Nov 04 - 01:27 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 13 Nov 04 - 01:14 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 13 Nov 04 - 12:42 AM
Helen 13 Nov 04 - 12:34 AM
Bert 12 Nov 04 - 11:57 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 12 Nov 04 - 11:44 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 26 Nov 04 - 04:36 AM

And I know that some of you are talking about children and Dyslexia, but I need to add that the two webpages I mentioned have been used with as many adults as with children, so even if you feel you've found lots of good ways of compensating over the years for how you've learned to help yourself, please know that IT'S NEVER TOO LATE to look around for some of the latest treatments.

There was one woman on the telly many months back, talking about using the second process of "reeducating her brain" through things like balance and juggling (sounds so strange, but these things really can help to "re-wire" the way our brains work) and she was in her 80s!

And just the other day, there was a boy on the telly talking about how much his reading had improved though the use of those coloured lenses.

Technology at it's best, IMHO.

..xx..e


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: dianavan
Date: 26 Nov 04 - 03:41 AM

As a mother of a severely, learning disabled child, I too had to wade through lots of misinformation. One of the things I learned was that it was a catch phrase. It actually means the inability to read which is ridiculous because even the mentally challenged can be taught to read.

So, if you have difficulty reading or writing you may have sequential errors, visual/spatial errors, auditory or visual memory difficulties, confusion with time and/or transitions, etc, etc, etc. Many of these 'problems' are maturational and given the right teaching methods, can be overcome.

The real problem occurs when there is an emotional overlay which prevents a person from learning coping mechanisms. The best way to combat this is to insure that a child knows that school is only a small part of life and that in the wider world, social skills, physical fitness and emotional well-being will serve you very well. Find out what interests the child and give them the opportunity to excel in something outside of school.

I think of all the time I worried about my son's future and now, at 32, he makes more money than I do and I'm at the end of my career. He's only beginning! He has people working for him that take care of all that "clerical shit" as he calls it and guess what - he is an avid reader and the most literate person in the family.

d


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: GUEST,SueB
Date: 26 Nov 04 - 03:00 AM

Thanks to Mark for his post. As parent of a dyslexic child, I've found out firsthand how much misinformation there is about dyslexia - I've had to wade through gobs and gobs of it. A lot of bunkum being sold as dyslexia cures, too, and a lot of money charged for it. Best book I've read on the subject is the one by Sally Shaywitz, M.D., called Overcoming Dyslexia.   BTW, Liz, I think term for what you describe is dyscalculia.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 26 Nov 04 - 02:41 AM

Here are two webpages. The first is about a new treatment for Dyslexia which has had fantastic results, and the second is a Google page where you can click on several different websites about the new use of coloured lenses for Dyslexics. Both of these methods are changing people's lives.

Like anything else, having what some call a disablity, and others call a challenge, the choice of trying to find solutions is up to us.

I say, less arguing and name-calling, and more helpful words of information (thanks, Mark) and encouragement.

..xx..e



http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993012



http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Coloured+lenses+for+Dyslexia+Treatment&spell=1


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Mudlark
Date: 26 Nov 04 - 01:35 AM

I'm sure Mark knows what he's talking about, but I've heard medical personnel using dyslexia for all kinds of mixups, i.e. direction-dyslexic, numbers-dyslexic, etc. So if those things aren't really dyslexia, is there some other name for them. I find measuring impossible, as well as interchanging letters, have to serrupticiously "write" with my left hand (being lefthanded) in order to tell left from right, have albsolutely no sense of direction, and can't hold even two or three numbers in my head, as in repreating a telephone number, or adding up a column of figures. It's a minor inconvenience at best, now that I've had so many years to get used to it.

By the way, Mark, how did you get on with the Exam?


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 09:58 PM

Bobert and Helen - probably among others - mentioned using aids to differentiate right from left. I'm not dyslexic as it happens, but I don't know how old I was before I stopped surreptitiously pressing my right hand to my leg to make sure I reached out with the 'right' hand. I don't know why it worked.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 08:47 PM

Was it an alge-bra?


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Bob Hitchcock
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 08:39 PM

Did you hear about the Dyslexic who walked into a bra?


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 08:35 PM

I Just read the thread again!

i'm now ingoring raedwolf [he's a trubble making weirdo].

but Deep thought, -you mention Pavlov, did you study Psychology?
[I did, I studied BA [Hons] Psychology at Hull, PM me if you did.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 07:31 PM

I get very discombobulated by numbers...but then i don't use them much. I haven't yet found a practical application for algebra...


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 07:24 PM

I have no problem with letters, I have trouble with numbers... they jump all over the place and I have to count really carefully... If I added up a column of figures three times, I'd have four answers.

No comments required.. just thought I'd share the fact that dyslexia isn't entirely confined to words and letters.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 07:01 PM

PS-I did NOT spend a dozen posts in this thread [or any other] calling you names.
Count the names I called you, count the posts, [it's fairly easy if you try].


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 06:52 PM

Shut up.

Get it right or stay quiet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Raedwulf
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 06:30 PM

Oh pardon me. I meant a dozen posts in this thread. I suppose I'm allowed to be human & make the occasional mistake, given that I've already confessed to being imperfect?

And as to the food & moaning, I commented on you (as far as I remember) once only ever on the public forum. If the world's starving are so important to you that you introduce them to this, how come you spent (I went & counted 'em 'specially for you, John) exactly one dozen posts in this thread calling me names? Why weren't you spending your time solving the world's problems & saving the starving, instead of wasting effort on me, John? Fool, hypocrite, idiot, or waste of space?

Enough. I haven't changed my tune, I've no more time for you. I hope we pass each other in peace in future, if only for the sake of the users of this board.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 06:14 PM

Your talking shit again!
qoute="you use a dozen threads to abuse me"
never heard so much shit in all my life, this is the first and only thread i've ever mentioned you on or replied to!

And now your sudden;ly changing your tune, you start off saying
"John mispells words on purpose to piss people off" [see your first post to this thread]

you know say you might recall that i might have mentioned in the chat-room, whilst chatting to someone else, that i don't bother spell checking my posts!

I don't recall saying this, but even if I don't bother checking my posts, so fucking waht, is it really a big problem for you?

Yes, i picked up on your bad spelling in one of your posts, [ i clicked on your name, traced your recent postings and clicked at random, checked a few words against a dictionary]

If your going to comment on other peoples spelling, I suggest you check your own first, especially as your commenting on the fact that I don't check mine.

Anyway, a third of the worlds population don't know where their next meal is coming from, if all you can think about to moan at and comment on, is poor spelling from amember of an internet forum, i suggest you count yourself lucky.

Get a fucking life.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Raedwulf
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 06:01 PM

John - I wasn't going to respond (didn't seem to likely to lead to anything useful), but since the thread has resurfaced, I maintain that you have said somewhere (if I remember correctly, it was in chat & not directly to me (not least because we've never chatted directly) which makes it difficult to produce evidence) that you deliberately mis-spell (or deliberately don't check spelling, it amounts to the same) to annoy people. I'll back my memory against yours any day of the week.

Not unnaturally, I made 2 + 2 = 4. If you've said the above, & never said you were dyslexic (which fact you both admit & contradict after my post), are you really surprised? More to the point, how dare you go raving ape-shit over the fact that someone said you weren't? You concealed the fact, remember? So who's fault is it if someone draws the wrong conclusion, then?

You claim you don't care what anyone thinks of you & then use the best part of a dozen threads to childishly & rather pathetically abuse me, even going so far as to rake through my back posts to find a typo. I never I said I type perfectly. I do try to make the effort, though, which you, despite ample proof that you can spell when you bother, don't. And I will continue to maintain that you have admitted the same.

I've no idea as to the seriousness of your lately disclosed dyslexia, John. I do know that I've got two seriously dyslexic friends. One does very well, the other I only know about because she told me. Make of that what you will, I really don't care. But I still say that you've publicly said that there are times when you deliberately don't try.

No, I really don't care. I reply to you here because you chose to make a public reply to me (I'm not criticising that you did, though I don't think much of the way that you did). I have been told that you are a very nice, friendly, do-anything-for-anyone sort of bloke in real life. I've also been told that you're often/usually pissed as a fart when you post here (chat or thread). I don't know the truth of either statement. I only know that I, personally, find you, on Mudcat, to be a monumental, & frequently incoherent, pain-in-the-ass (I dare say you don't think much of me either, fair enough!). Which is one bloody good reason why I almost never respond to anything you post to! Again, make of that what you well. I'm sure you disagree (well, I would if I were you! ;-) ), I just hope you now have some idea why I posted what I originally did.

Now, if someone can explain why I responded to this thread in the first place... Cos I can't bloody well remember why!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 05:03 PM

and Virgin Cola.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 05:47 PM

Sir jOhn...we all love you....your spelling is of no real consequence but to a few narrow minded bigots who think everyone should come up to their own personal standards...whatever they think they are!!!!. They are no better than you in any way...only in their own heads. They think they are better educated or have learnt better than you but the human side of you that I have seen in real life and on here..outstrips them in every way...you deserve to be a Sir and they can go rot.
Best wishes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Helen
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 07:51 AM

This was a thread I started a few years ago. We had some good discussions there but unfortunatley someonw decisded to close the thread. I don't know why.

BS: /OS: Any dyslexic 'Catters? (Like me)

Helen


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Helen
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 07:43 AM

Thanks for the definition Mark. On reading it I still see dyslexia as the same. The letter reversals are not a vision problem, they are the way the brain processes what is seen. The image is the same but my brain puts a different spin on the image and chops and changes that spin - admittedly in a fairly predictable manner, e.g. left-right reversals or up-down reversals.

I do mispronounce words, I do have terrible trouble "finding" the right names for things. I hate reading aloud, which is a terrible affliction for someone who chose to be a teacher, because what I see and what I say - because of the way my brain processes the written words - do not match up all the time. It's kind of like a strobing effect which switches between one interpretation and the other.

I hate people in the street asking me the time because I look at my watch and have to think consciously about what time it is likely to be to decide whether it is 10 past 1 or 10 to 11 - have I had lunch yet? Yes. Then it must be 10 past 1. It happens with analog watches, but it is worse with digital watches because those damn numbers look just as confusing backwards as forwards.

To me the letter reversal is one of the most obvious symptoms of the underlying dyslexia. It's easy to talk about too. A lot easier than trying to describe the brain functions and brain shifts, especially to people who have never experienced it and especially to the people who arrogantly assume that their normality is the whole of the universe.

Perhaps people think that because I spell properly and have few typos that I am not really dyslexic, but I have learnt to consciously watch every single letter I type to make sure that I put them in the right order.

If you have a higher than average level of intelligence then you have more capacity to create useful ways to compensate for the difficulties or to try to bypass them. Maybe a lot of the studies of dyslexia focus on the middle levels of intelligence, or on people who don't have the innate or learned drive to study and learn and do well at school. So then they get frustrated with learning & studying and find other, more preferable diversions.

If I type witout thinking about the correct spelling I can show you haw it works. I am concsiously not correcting my spelling although it is hare not to to it becuase I am so used to doing it.   Usually when I type I am backtracking as I go, and corecting my spelling as I realise it is wrong. I am tyring to let myseld do it and not corect it but it is not so easy to go back to how I could still be, when I have spent so mayn years leanring how to do it properly.

Helen


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: GUEST,Deep Thought
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 06:09 AM

Well chris nightbird perhaps you should re-read the original post, it was intended to provoke a little thought from those who post without thinking of others. It certainly elicited some wonderfull responses in among the predictable shit, and I for one have learned things about reading disabilities than I never knew. I am not a passing flamer but someone who has been around as long as Sir Jo9hn, and appreciate his contributions to the Mudcat (mostly)
Sometimes peoples response to a post is conditioned by the person making it, and the Pavlovian instinct takes over, thus the response is not truthfull. That is why I chose to adopt a pseudonym.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 05:18 AM

I hate to intrude on all this fun, but I feel bound to mention that dyslexia does not mean reversing letters, or not being able to spell. Dyslexia is a specific reading disability. People with dyslexia by definition have scores on a reading achievement test that is 15 points or more below their IQ score. (A reading achievement test measures, among other things: letter-word identification, reading fluency, passage comprehension, word attack, spelling, vocabulary, phonology, and rapid naming.)

Dyslexia represents a problem with how the brain processes language, not with vision or motor skills. It is most likely an inherited condition, which is associated with specific differences in the structure and function of the brain. Most commonly affected is the ability to separate words into "phonemes," their basic building blocks.    The sine qua non of dyslexia is difficulty with reading aloud. Children who later turn out to have dyslexia commonly have delayed onset of talking (first words after 15 months), prolonged "baby talk," persistent mispronunciations after 5 or 6 years, and difficulty repeating rhymes.

Many people with dyslexia do have problems with spelling as well. Letter reversals are a common developmental trait in normal children. Some people, including people with dyslexia, have persistent problems with left-right discrimination, but that is not the main problem that leads to difficulty reading.

Interestingly, many children and older people with dyslexia do not have language problems when they sing. (There, I knew I could make this a musical thread!)

Aloha,

Mark

PS If this sounds a little pedantic, it's because I'm busy studying for my Board certification exam in Developmental-Behavioral Pediatrics, which I take on Monday in San Francisco.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: chris nightbird childs
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 05:01 AM

I personally, I'm sick of "guests" coming in here and posting messages they don't seem to know anything about. They read a few posts and they think there's a bunch of old Folkies in here, and they decide to start shit with them. They should be ignored at the very least OR should not be able to post unless they actually give a name, so they can't hide, like the slugs that they really are...


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Gurney
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 04:54 AM

Well, Deep Thought, I guess that if you've read down this far, you've learned that jOhn doesn't need anyone to look after him.

I've taken the piss mildly when one of his 'individual' spellings has put me in mind of a double enterdre, but he never came back at me. Hope he never does. Like him, I'm here for amusement, entertainment, enlightenment, and the fellowship of people who like the sort of music that I do.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 02:45 AM

I agree.
best wishes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 02:39 AM

AS a soul BLESSED (discussed in other threads) with dyslexia - I appreciate the postings of others. It is as-if we are a localized community, we know what we have.... and have learned to embrace the view.... that seeing the world differently.... airn't such a bad thing.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 02:02 AM

then, throw you in the river.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 02:01 AM

PS=
weird wolf- don't bother coming to Hull, we'll all tie you up then piss on you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 01:48 AM

my link doesent seem to work, however , the thread is called "Homophobia in british folk music"
its were you are talking about your queer freinds.

if your going to comment on other peoples spelling, i suggest you leatn to spell yourself, otherwise you just end up looking like a prick.

no offence.

john


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 01:39 AM

Raedwolf-in this thread about homosexuals you spelled offence wrong
Click.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Cluin
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 01:27 AM

You're dyslexic, jOhn? I just thought you were pissed most of the time when you posted here.

My sister is dyslexic. She worked hard against it to the point where she now enjoys reading very much. I am proud of her.

Anyway, here you go.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 01:14 AM

Heloo,
i just got a PM calling me "sharp and abrupt", not really sure waht shes on about,
but i tell it like it is.

and saying [forgot exacy;y waht but like=],
maybe best not to say that etc=
bollocks, i'll say it how it is, and i wont post as guest, or use different name=
if i got something to say= i'll say it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 12:42 AM

Anyway- Deep Thought-I reckon your exactly right, [but b#don't call me surely].


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Helen
Date: 13 Nov 04 - 12:34 AM

Bert,

The changeovers from left to right perception happen with me too, but if I use the wristwatch = left trick, and write a straight line first and then add a circle to the bottom of the line, furthest away from the left (i.e wristwatch, and then the e and then the d then it works well.

My crossovers often happen with up/downs as well as left/rights so my major problem is 2 & 5. If you make a mirror image of the 5 by holding the mirror along the straight line at the top, it almost looks like a 2. It's still the one that gets me most of the time so if I'm reading out a list of figures or entering data with lots of figures I have to double check them. I know as soon as I have said it or typed it that it is wrong but unconsciously I will almost always do it wrong.

I remember getting very frustrated by a teacher in 3rd class who belittled me in front of the whole class because I was having trouble with 2's & 5's, z's & s's, etc and I asked her "how do you know which way is left?" Her reply, ever helpful, was "left is just left!" In all other ways she was a nice teacher and a good teacher, but that answer made me sit there and keep my questions to myself. And no matter how hard I tried her comments about my work were 1) I wasn't trying hard enough and 2) my writing was really messy.

That was in 1963 so she probably knows about dyslexia now, but not then. I only heard about it 20 or so years later, and I didn't get the Irlen lenses until a few years ago. Meanwhile I had been struggling to get through a lot of years of study, including my MBA. So I echo Larry's sentiment, in saying that being dyslexic doesn't mean that I am incapable of learning or studying.

Helen


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Bert
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 11:57 PM

Hi Sir jOhn, you came here to learn about folk music.

Well me too.

And any time you post about folk music I'll listen. And I don't give a monkey's about your spelling or grammar. (I'll also listen to a certain amount of BS too, 'specially from you)


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 11:44 PM

"whicjh is why for some time, i ignore anything the waste of space posts".

how dare you call me a waste of space?

and wehn addressing me, kindly call me Sir, you ignorant sack of shit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 11:36 PM

I was not bothered about people making funny threads about spelling etc, [and i'm still not],
[people can take the piss out of me if they like, [dislexia, deaf, wear glasees, high blood pressure, bad heart, or any of bloody thing the fucking think of],


but radewolf piss me off, becase he doesent know waht hes talking about, and just talking shit.


and anyway=is true i heard people saying he looks like a poof, he weres poff clothes, got a poffs beard, and talks like a poof.

[so he'ed better just fucking shut up then [pufter[.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 11:24 PM

But does he have any virgin virgins, jOhn??? Hmmmmmm??? Din't think so... Lotta that going 'round... Bout the only way to find a virgin is tyo go to the Middle East and blow yerseff up and get 38 of 'um... 'er 45. I donno how many but lots....

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 11:24 PM

Heloo Bert,
I came here to learn about folk music,
wehn i first came here some people moaned about my spelling ["you spelled that word wrong etc".

i was going to leeve, but i stayed,
now weird wolf is moaning, he can kiss my arse,

i won't take no shit from weirdo like him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Bert
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 11:14 PM

Uh Oh! Sir jOhn, I DIDN'T say that! ('cos it ain;t true). Read my posting of 10:33pm.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 11:11 PM

poofter [weird wolf],

anyway =Richard Branston is dislexic, so if you think dislexic people are thick, then fuck off.

he is one of richest men in the world, and he got loads of big companys,=
virgin music, virgin phones, virgin cosmetcs, virgin planes, virgin trains, etc etc etc.

waht weird wolf got?
fuck all, thats waht!


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Bert
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 11:07 PM

Er Sir jOhn, that should be "poofter". *GRIN*


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 11:06 PM

ps, allegidly you were puff clothes and you got a puffs beard.

so i suggest you shut the fuck up, weirdo [alegidly]

and i bet you don't know shit about folk music, [or dislexia].


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 11:04 PM

raedwolf-your a fucking jerk, and waht has my speeing got to do with you anyway?

anyway-i know someone that has met you, [at yorkshire gathering last year],
he said your a right fucking weirdo, and you look like a pufter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Bert
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 10:46 PM

Yer right Bobert, I might disagree with you about rats and squirrels but it's a MUSIC (and BS) site.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 10:44 PM

Hear, hear, jOhn... Well stated an' a tribute to lexdexics everywhere... Or jus bad spellers.... Like you said, its a music site, fir gosh sakes...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 10:44 PM

Weird wolf-I just read your post again, and you really are full of shit!

How the fuck would you know wether i am dislexic or not?
you a quailified dislexia examiner then?
[i dont think so some how!

Yesterday was the first time ever that i have mentiomed my dislexia on this website, a day later you tell me and the rest of the members here, thst i am not dislexic, thank you for your diagnosis!


just a thought, perhaps you can tell me if i am partially deaf, shortsighted, and suffer from arthritis?

thats if you are in any way medically qwalified?
if so, you must be a good doctor, to be able to diagnose someone without even seeing them!

if your not medicaly qwalified, i sugest you shut the fuck up.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 10:34 PM

Raedwulf-you can fuck off and kiss ,my big fat hairy arse.

your obviousyly as thick as pig shit,
note i don't give a flying fuck waht you [or anyone else] thinks of my spelling.

tell me=wehn have i ever said that that i miss spell on perpos?
your making it up, and your full of shit, and trying to make trubble.


note=wehn i possted to this thread, i had not read weird wolfs post, i was replying to the first message on this thread.


Readwolf- pm me your addres, and i'll send you my school records.


do you think that somene would pretend to be bad at spelling for 4 years?
if so, why?

[click on my name in any thread, after one of my first posts-
someone said "you spelled that wrong",
my reply was, ="so waht, i thought this was a music site, not a spelling site?

anyway=fuck off.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Bert
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 10:33 PM

Hmmm, some interesting discussions.

I don't worry too much about spelling. I can quickly read Moses' paragraph above and understand it and see every mistake. When I was in my teens spelling was a bit of a problem so I decided to do something about it. It turned out that there were about twenty words that were giving me a problem. I learned them and haven't worried about spelling since.

The problem here at Mudcat, is that we have one or two delightful dyslexic mudcatters who are put off from posting because of the insensitive assholes who make fun of them.

I also have a dear friend who is dyslexic and the ring trick doesn't help because when she looks at a 'b' she SOMETIMES SEES IT as a 'd'.
If it was consistent she would be able to compensate but the letters keep changing.   The teachers at her school were useless and called her stupid. She had to teach herself to read as an adult.

So if you are dyslexic or have any kind of problem with spelling or grammer, don't worry, we don't care, we love you anyway and want to hear from you.

So keep posting.


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Subject: RE: BS: Dyslexia
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Nov 04 - 09:10 PM

Danged, Helen... That was one of my old tricks with the ring... Back when I was in military school I was the guideon (Company flag) bearer, which meant I didn't have to carry an M-1 rifle. Good you'd think. But I did have to walk in front of the comapany and during ceremonies would have to do some purdy intricate things with the guideon bearers of the other two companies. I would us a rubber band on my left ring finger and make it tight enough so that I knew it was there.... The reason, which you will understand, for the left hand is that left is considered the "wrong way" so I purposely used the rubber band to create enough pain in the finger that I always associated pain and left...

Now a days left is nothin' more than my "other right"...

Bobert


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