BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Beer
Date: 14 Jun 09 - 07:15 PM

Yes!
Excellent jam Gnu.
Good bet to win also. Eh!
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: gnu
Date: 14 Jun 09 - 04:37 PM

BTW... partridgeberry jam is my fav.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: gnu
Date: 14 Jun 09 - 04:32 PM

HARBOUR GRACE, N.L. - The mayor of Harbour Grace, N.L., says he intends to honour a Stanley Cup bet struck with his counterpart in Halifax.

Harbour Grace is the home of Detroit Red Wings forward Dan Cleary, while Pittsburgh Penguins captain Sidney Crosby hails from Cole Harbour, just outside of Halifax.

The Red Wings won hockey's most prestigious prize in 2008, but the Penguins came out on top when both teams faced off for the Cup for the second consecutive year on Friday.

Don Coombs, the mayor of Harbour Grace, says he and Halifax Mayor Peter Kelly once again bet on which team would skate away with the Cup.

Coombs says a package containing partridge berries, scallops, boots and seal meat will be sent within the next two weeks to Kelly.

But Coombs says it remains to be seen if he'll don a Penguins jersey at the next town council meeting.
**************

Boots?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Jun 09 - 02:26 PM

Just back from Convention. Saw per. 2, 3. !Sorpresa completa!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: gnu
Date: 13 Jun 09 - 12:36 PM

I called my buddy Vic one minute to game time and he said the same as last time, "4 2 Wings with an open netter". Bet him a Loonie. He hasn't called me yet today. Of course, I am not going to mention the Loonie... the nurses at emerg would laugh too much.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Beer
Date: 13 Jun 09 - 11:17 AM

Excellent article. Really tells the truth of it all.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 13 Jun 09 - 10:04 AM

Congrats to all the "Gopens" folk. I didn't see a play. This, from Mitch Albom's column in this mornings Freep kinda says it all from this Red Wingers view:

"A great run finally ends …
Chins up. No complaints. The Red Wings, who led their series, 2-0 and 3-2, lost the last two chances at the Stanley Cup, and then lost the Cup itself. It was no cheapie. No cursed bounce or haunted ricochet. The Penguins were the better team this night. Their defense was better. Their offense was better. Their pressure was better. And their puck protection was better. You aren't likely to win when you give away that little rubber thing 11 times more than the other guy, as the Wings did.

So they can't complain. They were at home. They had three days' rest. They had more power plays and more shots. And — as if that weren't enough — Sidney Crosby didn't play half the game due to injury. Say the truth. The Wings looked tight. They got no goals from the stars. It was fitting Lidstrom was thwarted on the last shot. He had no goals all series. Neither did Hossa. Neither did Tomas Holmstrom. Neither did Pavel Datsyuk in his three games.

Defense matters. Grinders matter. Goaltending matters. But they keep score by goals. And the Wings were one short of tying, two short of winning.

Tip your hat to the Penguins. They did what no team had done in 38 years — win a Game 7 on the road to take the Cup. They were supposed to be younger, less experienced and less talented overall. Don't tell them that.

"We couldn't get it done," forward Kirk Maltby said. "...We'll be back next year.""

What a game! What a series! Congrats Pens - enjoy the cup.
Red Wings forever. Cheers,...................mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: gnu
Date: 13 Jun 09 - 07:16 AM

Great series. Great final.

Go Patriots!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: GUEST,Jack The Sailor
Date: 13 Jun 09 - 12:58 AM

So is Hossa kicking himself? ;-)

WAY TO GO PENS!!!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Big Mick
Date: 12 Jun 09 - 11:16 PM

Agreed, Ad. I think Flower got hosed. He was magnificent. Actually I only got to listen to the third period. I had to play a gig at the Pierce Cedar Creek Environmental Center. Every few minutes a teenaged kid updated me on the score. Managed to catch the last10 minutes. The better team won tonight. Our guys were just too beat up.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Beer
Date: 12 Jun 09 - 11:08 PM

Yes, Congratulations. No excuses. The Pens were definitely the better team. Great goal-tending on both sides. I would have picked Flurry as MVP despite Melkin's output in goals. !2 or 13 I think.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Big Mick
Date: 12 Jun 09 - 10:49 PM

Ummm ......... Errrrrrr .......... anyone got any crow they could spare???? Congrats to the Penguins and their fans.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: gnu
Date: 12 Jun 09 - 06:31 PM

Butterfly Joe.... a title for a song about a toothless hockey player just before Game 7 in Detroit. Anybody got a tune to sing it to? Hehehehe.

Here ya go, Butterfly Joe.
Game 7 fer the Stanley cup,
And don'cha know.....

Kinda late to make up a song, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: gnu
Date: 12 Jun 09 - 02:44 PM

I did... got kicked in the nuts for it. Wish you'd told me which one not to touch.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Beer
Date: 12 Jun 09 - 02:09 PM

"wrassle with girls ". In the fields eh!. I'm not touching that one.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: gnu
Date: 12 Jun 09 - 01:49 PM

I was just standing outside in the warm rain figgerin out how to set up for my new snowblower during construction season. I am gettin me a Honkin mother Honda on accounta North Americans can't build a good one yet.

I debated with me on the merits of constructing a walkway from the rear door landing to a landing with a doored enclosure for the blower and a ramp from there returning to near the first landing.

I had to consider the prevailing snowstorm winds in realtion to the house, the garage and the new construction, amongst other factors.

That's when I drifted (yeah) back to my youth. The large apartment buildings that abut my property on the rear used to be a field and there was a large swamp and pond. That is where I learned to skate, to play hockey, to wrassle with girls in a kind way. Fond memories of getting a puck in the nuts and getting kicked in the nuts. No refs in that field.

mwh.... sniff

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 12 Jun 09 - 10:54 AM

...eleven hours until stage time - "SON OF A BITCH!"
GO RED WINGS GO!.....................................mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: gnu
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 03:35 PM

Beer! An oldie but a goodie... and perfect timing! Hahahahaaa.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 01:20 PM

LOL.... and I bet that road of gnu's was at least starting to get crowded, too.

I think I gonna empty out the Convention banquet by announcing, if I am called to the podium for anything, "Stanly Cup, our room, BYO chairs and beer." The VETERAN players on the Dicoesan stage, I know, will go over the wall with us!

Hm, take DVR to motel room....... nononono....... VCR maybe!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Beer
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 01:14 PM

Just received this from a relative living close to Detroit. Some of you may have heard it but I thought I would share it anway.
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A True RED WINGS Hockey Fan

It's Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final, and a man makes his way to his seat right at center ice. He sits down, noticing that the seat next to him is empty. He leans over and asks his neighbor if someone will be sitting there.

"No," says the neighbor. "The seat is empty."

"This is incredible", said the man. "Who in their right mind would have a seat like this for the final game of the Stanley Cup play-offs and not use it?"

The neighbor says, "Well, actually, the seat belongs to me. I was supposed to come with my wife, but she passed away. This is the first Stanley Cup we haven't been to together since we got married in 1967."

"Oh ... I'm sorry to hear that. That's terrible. But couldn't you find someone else, a friend or a relative, or even a neighbor to take the seat?"

The man shakes his head. "No. They're all at the funeral."

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: gnu
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 12:51 PM

I just got back from the beer store. Some of you may know that in Canuckville, we have two seasons - winter and construction. I live in a neighbourhood essentially bounded by two arterials which meet at a 30 degree y. One is being paved is down to one lane each way. The other is being widened, same deal. Each carries about 40k vehicles a day (rough guesstimate). It is June, tomorrow is Friday, Game 7 is on tomorrtow night. Doesn't take a transportation engineer to figure that today is the day to go to the beer store.

gnu, M.Sc.E. Transportaion Planning and Engineering (I also majored in beer.)

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Jun 09 - 11:30 AM

It's hell, waiting!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 02:21 PM

Summary of last post:

On-ice view PLUS War Room view = checks and balances.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: gnu
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 01:42 PM

I cried when The Cherry broke up talking about the last Canuck death in Afghanistan. Hockey didn't seem too important at that moment.

If I may comment... refs let stuff go SOMETIMES when it's...

1. not injurious.
2. does not affect the outcome of immediate play.
3. is not done repeatedly.

As has been said, it tends to balance out.

Now, just one more thing about what the refs CAN see. Everything. Unless you are at the game, you only see what's on your TV. You might see a ref ten feet from a "penalty" but you may not have seen what he saw 50 feet from that penalty.

Anyway, there aren't any refs in Afghanistan and hockey is just a game.

Yes, I do get very upset at times, but usually only about dirty play and chippy shit.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Big Mick
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 01:16 PM

Susan, IMO your post Is incorrect in it's assertion that the "on the ice" crew has a better vantage point than the cameras do. You need only look at the replay on that last goal save to know that. And the commentators are hired because they are pro's and have forgotten more about the game than you or I know. And it was the opinion of all 4 commentators that the crew was inconsistent and the Wings were the victims of it. That is not taking anything from the Penguins, the right team won last night.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 12:59 PM

PS, Mick, but I agree-- the Wings probably DO have it in the bag.

GO PENS!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 12:53 PM

I don't put much stock in Versus and NBC commentators. We've seen the bias run the other way. I think that's natural-- esp. if we fans are the age of the players' parents, we want to protect "our boys" and we tend to see incursions against our own team while not even physically seeing what "our" boys do, absent a slow replay. The game's just too fast, inherently, to see it all, from the fans' view, and the commentators' view too-- which is why we have referees ON the ice WITH training AND seniority.

Backed up by the War Room, which watches it all and which is always looking for chances to apply additional discipline. But in the Final, even moreso than the preceding series, the refs are supposed to "let them play."

When a call is missed, under normal circumstances, officials get a "review" of the call for their own edification, and notice that they must enforce that rule in the next opportunity. They also get briefing before each game (all year) on what kind of crap individual players are mostly likely to pull. Coaches get briefed on what and how to warn their players. And then, yes, stuff DOES stil happen, but it's not quite the Dodge City out there that the paid-to-hype commentators seem to like to suggest.

Checks and balances. The losing team is almost always "robbed."

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Big Mick
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 12:25 PM

No, I don't dispute that call. His hand never touched the puck. But the wings ended up in the penalty box twice early on, for infractions that the Penguins were guilty of minutes later. They were so obvious that even the NBC commentators commented, and they (IMO) have shown a complete bias towards Pittsburgh throughout the series.

I hate posting from an iPhone, but it's all I have right now.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 11:49 AM

Yes, but we saw an equal number of calls the other way. Surprisingly, by experienced refs I actually respect.

And hey-- I didn't know until this year that Cup Final refs are assigned by merit from performance in the preceding rounds' games.

If one of the Detroit concerns was the Scuderi "goaltneding," I can speak to that one. Our DVR allows good highlight review and we saw clearly-- no hand on the puck.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Beer
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 11:41 AM

Mick, not to complain but I picked up on 3 calls that should have been made in Detroit's favor. However let us hope that the game is not decided on some mistake by a ref.
"Go Wings Go"
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 11:10 AM

Hopefully, if we go there (the officiating), Mudcatter 3refs will provide helpful comments and/or clarification-- he's a Cdn on-ice official with Hockey Canada?-- Juniors?-- if memory serves and if I understand Cdn hockey rightly.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Big Mick
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 11:07 AM

Relax, pal. It's in the bag. Think game 7, think the number of Stanley Cup winners on the team, think game 7 IN THE JOE. Pittsburgh ain't chopped liver, and they are to be commended for getting this far. But make no mistake about it, the Cup stays in Detroit this year.

Now. ..... let's talk about the officiating last night.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 11:07 AM

F, no! :~)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 10:55 AM

Well, SON OF A BITCH! Yeah, I said that, because - THERE IS A GAME SEVEN IN THE STANLEY CUP FINALS, MY TEAM IS PLAYING, AND I HAVE TO WORK! DAMN IT! DAMN IT! DAMN IT!

Beer, I don't think we played well last night and I sure don't know why; but, this morning's Freep and Mike Babcock agreed with my assessment - the Wings just didn't play like it was the last game and the Penguins did - end of story. I also agree with Mitch Albom who wrote that without Ozzie the score could have been 4-1 or 6-1 because our defense was simply not good. They spent too much time in our own zone and turned the puck over in the neutral zone too many times. Ozzie is a great goalie - period.

Well, whatever happens, I'm a Wing-Nut, win, lose or draw - and that doesn't change. You all enjoy the game on Friday and always remember these four words - GO RED WINGS GO!..................mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: gnu
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 07:34 AM

I DID!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 10:52 PM

FUCK! Did I say THAT!?!?!?

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Beer
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 10:51 PM

FUCK!!!!
Oops, did I say this?? Sorry.
Great game for the Pittsburgh Penguins.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: GUEST,Jack The Sailor
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 10:48 PM

Woooooo Hooooo

GAME SEVEN!!

Its down to one game!!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 10:44 PM

I forgot to drink BEER in Game 5-- but I had one tonight, for luck. Puck luck.

Friday evening is our Diocesan Convention banquet. My motel TV will be calling me to do an early powder!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Beer
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 09:51 PM

End of the second Michael, but with a 0/1 score were still in there.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 07:26 PM

gnu - pepperoni. This thing goes to bed tonight. Wings 4 - Pens 2.
GO RED WINGS GO!...............................mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: gnu
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 06:55 PM

I have just discussed, by telephone, for over a half hour, in depth, the series, especially the last game, including everything from rosters to attitudes to coaching to strategies, and the impending game, with one of my best friends, a die hard Wings fan all his life.

So, it is written by Vic.... Wings 4 to 2 on an open net with less than 30 seconds left.

Now, I don't care WHO it is, but I hope he's right one the scoring!

Well, I kind would like that scoring to be on Friday night... selfish me... one more game, eh?

Da da da da dahhh dadahhhhhh....

Hmmmm.... big decision... deluxe or pepperoni? or Parisienne? You try that McCains Parisienne? Darn good for $4!!! And, believe it or not, extra mozz and canned corn beef... TRY it! (Yes, I was when I discovered this. How else?)

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: gnu
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 05:46 PM

Well, tonight is a crapshoot. Like Vinny said... on any given Tuesday. After all, we are talking about two of the BEST hockey teams in the world. Lives, livliehoods, many millions of dollars hang in the balance.

Really... crapshoot.

All I hope is that the refs do a great job. If so, it will be great hockey.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 05:31 PM

I don't EXPECT it to go this way, but here's my version of the perfect scenario.

The Wings go down tonight 7-0 and there are numerous fights in the game. The Pens goals include a hat trick for Geno, a hat trick for Sykora, AND a shortie from Staal.

Then Game 7 is a nailbiter, goal for goal every 5 minutes, with all the goals coming from role players, not stars. It finally goes into overtime. About 3 minutes into the second OT (I don't think I could take 3 OTs again), Crosby goes on a breakaway and dekes, completely pulling Osgood off center position, and flicks the puck across his body into an open side of the net. Or he takes a pass from the other head of the 2-headed monster-- because really, so few goalies can count to 2 when they are both right off the crease, one to each side-- and it's a power wraparound/stuff.


But my money is staying in my pocket. (I think we go down, tonight, AGAIN.) May puck luck be ours.

GO PENS!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Beer
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 02:36 PM

When I first came across it a while back I immediately sent it to my Toronto Maple Leaf Die Hard brother-in-law. He wrote back saying "You really know how to hurt a guy". We had a great laugh over it.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: gnu
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 09:58 AM

That is priceless.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: Beer
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 03:45 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIa_708Fbn4


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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: gnu
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 03:33 PM

Hey! Don't leaf at the Maple Laffs!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 02:48 PM

Hoping no Tronna-fans are here-- first they would have to win a SERIES. :~)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Cup '09, Pt. II: The Final Series
From: gnu
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 02:42 PM

Nah... Montréal and Tronna.