seeking funny I.R.A. Songs

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Terry K
Date: 21 May 01 - 02:36 AM

Guest Merlin, most of your questions about English suffering can be answered as YES. I reckon most UK people's interest in and understanding of the KKK and "deep south problems" are in the same vein as the "plastic paddy's" superficial understanding of the Irish situation.

I'm with those who find nothing funny in the excesses of any terrorist group. In the gypsy thread and the jewish jokes thing it was widely claimed that perpetuating the joke perpetuated the prejudice. Many IRA songs serve to glorify the unglorious actions of the IRA - where's the difference? Let's keep the songs by all means, but keep them in their true context - even if it means we get to keep that crap about Mrs Stein.

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Fiolar
Date: 20 May 01 - 06:29 AM

Did I read somewhere that Merlin was Welsh?

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: GUEST,Merlin
Date: 19 May 01 - 12:13 PM

Why anti-English songs are funny and ant-gay, black, semetic, etc. songs are not. Are English people currently being shot to death for their religon, skin-color or sexual orientation? Is there a civil war involving English versus someone else currently causing massive fatalities? Are English people denied legal marrige and called evil by multiple religons? Have English people been denied equal rights and freedom for 400+ years? Are English places of worship regularly bombed or defaced? Are there colleges that spout hatred of the English, and have the support of large governments? Is the clergy of the Church of England regularly killed or imprisoned in various countries? The answer to most, if not all of the above questions is no. If the 800 year long bloody, tragic history of England in Ireland can be reduced to history books, old stories, songs and jokes, than we will have achieved something great. Even if those songs don't carry the best feeling towards England, it's better to sing with a smile than shoot with a smile. Songs of hatred should be left in histoy's garbage bin. Songs of humor should remain.

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Amergin
Date: 18 May 01 - 02:53 PM

I didn't see Nell Flaherty's Drake mentioned either.....which is supposed to be about Emmet.....

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 18 May 01 - 12:40 PM

Shield Folk, you're dead right there. And Fib, Antóin said this: But then I actually live in Ireland, would I be wrong in surmising that the bars referred are in the States and probably frequented by Plastic Paddies. If he simply avoids such bars, it would hardly be reasonable to imply that such bars don't exist. Still, I'm glad you haven't found the thread too offensive for your participation!

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 May 01 - 06:45 AM

Out of interest this thread has set me on a quest! I have decided to dip my toe into the waters of history and get some better information about what my Grandad was actualy doing in Ireland after WW1. I would appreciate any information on thread - Non-Music: Lancashire fusiliers in WW1.

See you soon and, as I said before, keep laughing. It's far better than throwing bombs!

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Shields Folk
Date: 17 May 01 - 06:29 PM

Fionn, decent ordinary geezers do terrible unordinary things, read Christopher Brownings 'ORDINARY MEN'

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 May 01 - 06:22 PM

Feeble anecdote!!! I resemble that remark. There is nothing feeble about my anecdotes. (What does anecdote mean btw???) Retract at once Sirrah, or I shall be forced to write stong words to the times!

Seriously though folks - this is realy enlightening me. I know Grandad was in Ireland in 1919. I know he was not the type of man portrayed by Fionn. I can only come to one conclusion now I guess - he was not a 'tan! In WW1 he went to join the Lancs fusiliers but by some strange quirk of fate ended up in the Welsh fusiliers. Anyone know if that crew ended up in Ireland? What Larry says makes a lot of sense and I guess he cold have been with one of the 'favoured' regiments. Any views?

Oh, and Fionn. I don't think he could have got away with 'Top o'the morning' in his thick Lancashire accent. Any more than anyone can get away with attempting to mask potentialy insulting comments with contrived scholarly statements and unecessary emoticons. Do you? Good job I wasn't realy insulted isn't it *BG* ;-) :-0

Cheers

Dave the Gnome

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: GUEST,Tommy C
Date: 17 May 01 - 11:03 AM

The Crumlin Kangaroos.

Song about a football team who escaped from Crumlin Rd Gaol in the early 70's. All I can remember is the chorus:

And it's here and up your a**e now, and a Georgie Best to you. There's not a team it the whole wide world, than the Crumlin Kangaroos.

Now as the warders watched, the passing of the ball, One of the bloody football teams, went up and over the wall.

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 17 May 01 - 10:21 AM

Perhaps Antoin doesn't want to visit bars where funny/pro-(insert-any-terrorist-organisation-here) songs are being sung? I certainly don't, and have left pubs before when I didn't want to hear what was being sung... in much the same way that I don't participate in threads on Mudcat that I find offensive.

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: InOBU
Date: 17 May 01 - 10:12 AM

A note about the Black and Tan story... As we all know, from Sean Tracy's great book, or Dan Breen's book, there was different treatment of British regiments in Ireland during the 1919 Anglo Irish war, depending on how they treated civilians and Republican prisoners, for example, if memory serves, the Essex regiment were particularly despised for using a fake surrender as a way of getting Tracy's men to stand up and accept surrender, only to fire on them when they showed themselves.
When I first read the story, I though there may be an eliment of oral tradition at work here, and as the old boy got older, adopted the term Black and Tans to refer to himself, as one of any of the regiments which fought in Ireland, as an old friend of mine who fought in 1919 refered to his rifle as "my old Fienian gun", though of course he was much to young to have been involved in the Fienian uprising... to give our brother the benifit of the doubt. At least it shows the class identity we hope for, us against them (worker v. those who own our labour) eh?
Anyway, as storys go... it deserves a drink... and a song in responce.
Cheers, Larry

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 17 May 01 - 10:01 AM

Antóin, like you I know backwaters of Ireland where people haven't got the first idea of their own history and heritage and have had their minds closed to politics (often by catholic clerics, who did a pretty fine job of propping up the British Empire in years gone by). Sounds like you've yet to explore the bars of Dundalk, Crossmaglen and west Belfast, among others.

Fiolar, I also thought DtG's feeble anecdote had a somewhat implausible ring to it, but maybe his grandad had adopted the traditional Irish greeting "Top o'the morning!" in which case you can see how the confusion could arise.*BG*

Dave, possibly the Tans did, inadvertantly, let the occasional decent geezer slip through the net and into their ranks, but they were sent to Ireland to behave like murdering thugs, and lived up to the task fairly convincingly. The idea that they fraternized with, and passed seamlessly into, the local population is frankly risible.

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Wolfgang
Date: 17 May 01 - 04:33 AM

Rubber bullets (for the ladies) has been mentioned above. I've posted the lyrics in another thread in order not to bury them in the middle of a political discussion. I'm with the majority in the 'Preserve politicall incorrect songs' thread and with those here that state that we can learn from songs about history and feelings in a time even if those songs might hurt the feelings of a group. It is worth preserving them even if you would not sing them either without a comment or at all.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 16 May 01 - 08:58 PM

Another thread that went to Hell. I read it through hoping to find songs, but most contributors just filled it with their 2-bit opinions. The IRA songs with humorous content (or without) are important to social history and thought (gee! that sounds pedantic). They teach us about the past and present from the viewpoint of the little guy on one side of the conflict. They are a means of dealing with our emotions and give us a chance to let off steam. I now wonder if there are similar songs from the other side- don't recall any.

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 16 May 01 - 08:54 PM

Freddy McKay,who hadn't got a bigoted bone in his body,always used to sing "The Old Orange Flute" together with "The Fenian Record Player" so that nobody would be offended,or perhaps so that everybody would. I doubt if he minded much.He also had a very funny song called "The Bravest Man" about a young innocent who joins in a singing session in an unfamiliar bar - and sings the wrong song.

I don't know if any of these lyrics are in the database.If they are not then I will try and transcribe them if anyone wants them.

There is an article on Freddie McKay on the Musical Traditions website.(I'm new to Mudcat and I don't know how to indicate links yet).

Matthew

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: GUEST,Eclipse
Date: 16 May 01 - 07:38 PM

sigh, I give up... hope you get the idea, the middle is three verses.

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: GUEST,Eclipse
Date: 16 May 01 - 07:36 PM

Hmmm... seems the line breaks didn't always work Middle verses are With Mother......depending where I was Now when.....Heros of the Boyne One day..... bashed everyone in sight.

Subject: Lyr Add: THE ORANGE AND THE GREEN
From: GUEST,Eclipse
Date: 16 May 01 - 07:33 PM

Dave the gnome wrote:
"'My Father he was orange and my Mother she was green.' Can't remember any more though. "

This song is called "THE ORANGE AND THE GREEN." The Irish Rovers recorded a version of this sometime in the 70's. I've seen this song redone to match any two warring sides. It's probably on the database but it goes:

CHORUS: Oh, it is the biggest mix-up that you have ever seen.
My father, he was Orange and me mother, she was Green.

My father was an Ulster man. proud Protestant was he.
My mother was a Catholic girl. from county Cork was she.
They were married in two churches, lived happily enough,
Until the day that I was born and things got rather tough.

Baptized by Father Riley, I was rushed away by car,
To be made a little Orangeman, my father's shining star.
I was christened "David Anthony," but still, in spite of that,
To me father, I was William, while my mother called me Pat.

With Mother every Sunday, to Mass I'd proudly stroll.
Then after that, the Orange lodge would try to save my soul.
For both sides tried to claim me, but I was smart because
I'd play the flute or play the harp, depending where I was.

Now when I'd sing those rebel songs, much to me mother's joy,
Me father would jump up and say, "Look here would you me boy.
That's quite enough of that lot." He'd then toss me a coin
And he'd have me sing The Orange Flute or The Heroes of the Boyne.

One day me ma's relations came round to visit me
Just as my father's kinfolk were all sitting down to tea.
We tried to smooth things over, but they all began to fight.
And me, being strictly neutral, I bashed everyone in sight.

My parents never could agree about my type of school.
My learning was all done at home. That's why I'm such a fool.
They've both passed on, God rest 'em, but left me caught between
That awful color problem of the Orange and the Green.

Double ChorusHTML line breaks added --JoeClone, 30-Sep-01.

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Nemesis
Date: 16 May 01 - 07:30 PM

"I am actually quite an Anglophile. The Brits are great folks most of the time, and even when they are enemies they are still interesting.",

"why you should hate the Brits F***ing colonialism" ...", etc....

"I can forgive the English .." Oh, how f***ing outrageously BIG of you!

Can I just point out that as a British woman (of very "mongrel" heritage - family interned as "enemy") I have never been an occupying force anywhere, I have never declared war, I have never been anyone's "Colonial Master", disagree with my taxes being used for arms exports, heinous environmental decisions (Balfour Beatty dams - flooding and displacing people and British tax payers money being used to fund it via tax breaks, etc.,) and basically take issue with unethical terrorist actions of Government regardless of its political persuasion. And neither has anyone else I know!

so, WHATEVER the nature of this thread

British Government does these things not the "Brits" or the "English". Discern the difference between British people and British Government - who, at least publicly since Thatcher's time, have been on some kind of war footing with its citizens as the enemy.

Enjoy your thread.

Hille

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: GUEST,Dear Antoin
Date: 16 May 01 - 06:27 PM

T'would be funny if I knew you were serious, but you ain't so it's not funny.

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: GUEST,Antóin
Date: 16 May 01 - 06:04 PM

"Funny IRA songs they sing in Irish bars". Well, I visit a fair few bars myself and seldom hear any IRA songs, "funny" or otherwise. And if they are song, they usually don't receive a very enthusiastic reception. But then I actually live in Ireland, would I be wrong in surmising that the bars referred are in the States and probably frequented by Plastic Paddies.

One of Those who didn't take the boat.

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 May 01 - 04:29 PM

And just remembered again (Must stop doing this - I'm getting like the TV detective, Columbo. "Oh, just one more thing...")

A company I once worked for received a large package with "IRA" stamped all over it. The guy in the postroom, exceedingly bright as you can tell, thought it might be a bomb so put it in a pail of water (huh???) and called the police.

Police arrived, evacuated the premises and eventualy called us all back in. As we walked through reception we all saw multiple copies of a very soggy leaflet explaining.....

The Industrial Relations Act!!!!

And the same guy used to tell Irish jokes. True - and if anyone wants to make it into a song be my guest.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 May 01 - 04:07 PM

Sorry Fiolar - I stand corrected! Nice story though anyway - why spoil it with the facts;-)

It was my error that assumed 1919 though coz I knew he did not leave the army after WW1 and re-join - I have seen his service record. Not sure what he did that year now then! Perhaps a pre-curser to the B&T's? Perhaps he was not a 'tan but an ordinary squaddie in Ireland? Any help anyone?

Grandad Stanley was a great guy anyway. I have got his medal and certificate awarded him in France during WW1 for saving a little girl from drowning in a well. He was so proud of that and of the story he told about an officer ticking him off for wearing his medal ribbon backwards - until he pointed ot it was a French medal! He also had the back of his tongue shot off during that conflict - bullet went in one cheek and out the other. As well as loosing his sight in one eye during a gas attack. I hope to God I will never know such suffering.

I still believe - even though there is evidence that the B&T's were volunteers - that he was 'drafted' as were a lot of other people from Salford, Leeds and Liverpool because of the large Catholic poplations of those areas. This was due to the ridiculous idea that the 'brass' had that the republicans would not shoot 'at their own'!

As in any conflict there is good and bad. I am sure that there were the 'shooters from lorries'. Likewise there were the ones who wanted no more violence after the deprivation of the trenches. There have been attrocities on both sides. I will never know if the story was the whole truth, I suspect not and said as much earlier, but I did believe Grandad when he tells me he got on well with the Irish. He was that sort of bloke.

Lets leave it at that and have a good laugh with these songs over a pint of the black stuff eh?

Cheers

Dave the Gnome

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Fiolar
Date: 16 May 01 - 01:15 PM

To Dave the Gnome: While not wishing to state that his grandfather may have been stretching the truth just a little bit :-)a few things to straighten the record.The first "tans" arrived in Ireland in March 1920. It is highly unlikely that any Black and Tan would wander into a pub on his own in Ireland at that time.As for being mistaken for a local, pull the other one. If he did as he stated then he must have been a very very lucky man indeed or the local IRA men must all have been asleep. On a more serious note, the tans' favourite method of transport was to roar around the country side in lorries shooting at anything which took their fancy. My grandmother was once the target of such behaviour. Near the town where I went to school is a memorial to a catholic priest who was out for a walk one evening when he met a party of tans who were tormenting a mental handicapped lad. When he remonstrated, they shot him and threw his body over a hedge.

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Big Mick
Date: 16 May 01 - 09:57 AM

Now I have to interpret here for THE FAIR ONE, ................. LOL. That is a great song, m'love. Haven't heard it in ages.

Mick

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: alison
Date: 16 May 01 - 07:59 AM

I'm not going to get into any arguments...... just responding to a request for songs.....

I won't sing IRA songs.. same as I won't sing orange songs.. because there's always someone out there who might be offended....

but I do like the lid of my granny's bin

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 16 May 01 - 06:16 AM

Hang on, Wolfgang, there was more years of violence and death before he wrote it than after. Even just in Ireland.

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Wolfgang
Date: 16 May 01 - 06:03 AM

A funny song about politics in Northern Ireland is The Battle of Stormont though it is neither an IRA nor an orange song. I doubt that Sands would write a similar song now after all those years of violence and death. But it was a good song at its time.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: paddymac
Date: 16 May 01 - 05:54 AM

Funny RA songs? Guess my fav would be "My Old Man's a Provo" Don't know if it's in the DT or not. I'll take a look later, and post the lyrics if it's not.

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: GUEST,Joe
Date: 16 May 01 - 04:38 AM

hello ViVat Larry you are quite correct ,and by the way Graham did the rest of Ireland get to vote if the Brits stayed in the Northeren part of their country or was it just those in the North part Of Ireland and Who came up with the vote the Brits In the first damn place? the song Teddy bears head should clear that up.

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: InOBU
Date: 15 May 01 - 10:12 PM

Hey Scarpi! Good to hear your ... well see yer type! Great story, Dave the Gnome! Cheers all, Larry

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: GUEST,skarpi Iceland at home
Date: 15 May 01 - 07:04 PM

Halló all, how about " Johnsons motor car " or " Off to Dublin " or Wearing of the green " hmmmmmm I know there are some more but i cant remember at the moment . All the best skarpi Iceland.

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 15 May 01 - 06:51 PM

Apologies Dick, I did look once and failed to find that song. Maybe The Old Alarm Clock (lyrics posted farther back up the thread) is in there too, but if so I failed to find it.

Grab, Larry (InOBU) has let you off a bit lightly. You need to remember that the island of Ireland was one country until Westminster and the northern unionists insisted on partitioning it (Collins & co only agreeing the treaty package under threat of immediate war). Ever wondered how they came to draw the line just where they did? If they had run it round the whole of Ulster, or even just run it a few miles south of where it is, there would have been no union majority even in the north. For a more scholarly exposition of the Boundary Commission's work, read Puckoon by Spike Milligan. Rolling off my seat just thinking about it!

So it's a marvellous thing, this democracy - you can use it almost any way you like.

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: GUEST,Neil Comer
Date: 15 May 01 - 06:40 PM

I am a young Mudcatter who said that he wouldn't post to this thread anymore. However, could you all please lighten up? Someone requested a song. I have answered threads in the past about Orange Songs (despite the fact that the whole concept of Orangism galls me to the core) and would have no problem about answering threads about anti-semitism and racist songs (again above feeling applies)Pendantics have caused the vast magjority of problems in the world- please do not let them ruin music)

Beir bua

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Lanfranc
Date: 15 May 01 - 06:33 PM

Irony, Marty, irony!

A British trait, along with getting mixed up in inexplicable inextricable religious turf wars that other nations sensibly leave alone. (cf India, Cyprus, Palestine, etc.)

Funny thing is, apart from one Flanders and Swann song (and that has a decidedly nonPC go at the Scots and Welsh as well), I can't think of any British anti-Irish songs. That either proves what a long-suffering, noble race we Brits are, or offers scope for another thread.

Make music, not war!

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 May 01 - 06:31 PM

I have just remembered something my Grandad used to tell me. He was in the Black and Tans in 1919 but was often mistaken for a local in the village he was stationed in and invited for a pint in the bar. Sat there one night with a pint of the black stuff in front of him he was approached by a man who said 'Get back to where you came from you English bastard'.

My grandad wiped the froth of his moustache and asked 'Where's that then? Salford, Dublin, the Somme or the bread line?'

The Irish guy looked at him with a puzzled expression and then began to laugh. They both ended up roaring drunk and with my grandad on 'jankers'. Dunno if it was true but I like to think so.

Keep 'em laughing

DtG

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: InOBU
Date: 15 May 01 - 06:26 PM

PS To any younger mudcatters who may be offended by the language in my post, I appologise. Sometimes grownups get a wee bit out of control, after seeing badness. - Larry

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: InOBU
Date: 15 May 01 - 06:24 PM

The sad thing, is we workers are hurling invective at each other, while the plutocrat bastards who created the cold war, which was the engine for the war in Ireland, as well as so many other places, are laughing so hard the champaine is coming out their noses. Let's wise up and have a truth and reconcillation process. We are all the pig in the middle - not just the fellas in uniform.
Any wonder why England suddunly felt it could talk with the IRA, the same year that the Soviet Union went under, and Irland cast aside it's nuetrality and allowed nato to refuel during the Gulf War? Big nations like the US and England don't fight little nations just for fuck's-sake, they do it for big rotten reasons, and if we get blinded by the politic of the last outrage, we loose, they win.
SO in that light, I continue to put a hand out to any on either side, who will sit down and talk, honestly and openly.
Slan
Larry

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: GUEST,rambam99
Date: 15 May 01 - 05:50 PM

I'd like to thank everyone who contributed to my request, and rest assured I am cataloguing your selections now, I hope more will be posted, as well as any funny Irish song (odds are I already have everything the Clancy Bros did)

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: ollaimh
Date: 15 May 01 - 04:56 PM

to jock morris.

it seems you are the one who won't let others live in peace.when you and your ilk stop insting on you right to silence others there might be peace.

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 May 01 - 04:22 PM

I think most on this thread know me for my views on Anti-Brit songs in particular so you may find it odd that I don't object to this in the slightest. I think the best way of being drawing attention to any situation you don't like is to poke fun at it. I don't mind in the slightest having the 'mad dogs and englishmen' tag or being laughed at for liking bland food or whatever. Far better than having hateful songs sung about me. At least I can laugh along with the funnies!

Chip in my bit. My mum loves Irish rebel songs and we had a few albums of them. The only funny one I remember was to the 'wearing of the green' tune and had the refrain 'My Father he was orange and my Mother she was green.' Can't remember any more though.

One of our local songwriters, Stanley Accrington, does a cracker as well about the Manchester bombing when amongst all the wreckage a post-box was left in tact. Finishes up with "It's a postbox, Pat, postbox Pat, postbox Pat, what do you think about that?" Lost on anyone who has never seen 'Postman Pat' but hilarious all the same. BTW - the postbox now has a plaque on it!

Keep on taking the p**s instead of shooting and we would all be better off:-)

Cheers

Dave the Gnome

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: GUEST,Can't help but wonder
Date: 15 May 01 - 03:58 PM

Noreen, you remind me of a woman in a Government office in Dublin in the 50's. She got excited when I spelled my name in the short form. It was as if the world would end. Well it didn't.

If any should be complaining here it would be me or some of the other Ex Pats ( sorry about that one ) in the USA or OZ etc. In my case I could not bear the confict between those I knew and valued, even friends. It is over OK the people TG have voted. I applaud their humanity and courage. One could go on for ever about the loss of a good life - I certianly had one - but what would that achieve?

I recall meeting a fellow in the UK who at the time was an unwilling and recent emigrant from the North. I found out from the locals both sides had promised him an early ticket to the here-after because he would not join either. The man was constantly drinking, can we blame him?.

I never did bother to find out which religion he was, we never thought that relevant in the Uk.

It is time to let it go! This thread does not offend me, I see it as the inevitable laughter after years of tension and war. It is badly needed.

Subject: RE: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: GUEST
Date: 15 May 01 - 03:49 PM

There's a *very* rude song with a chorus about "rubber bullets for the ladies, six inches long and two inches thick", but I can't remember any more of it.

Subject: RE: BS: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: InOBU
Date: 15 May 01 - 11:22 AM

Dear Grab, when you force the majority out of a territory through unfair employment, torture, arrest without warrant, unegual access to housing, in some places un fare voting paterns - such as the 2 for one voting in Derry, well, Democracy is not the word for it. By simple birth rate there would have been a nationalist majority decades ago without the above conditions.
All the best Larry

Subject: RE: BS: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 15 May 01 - 09:59 AM

Fionn-- Lyrics are in DigiTrad; tune is the Ashgrove.

Subject: RE: BS: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Wolfgang
Date: 15 May 01 - 09:48 AM

It is always interesting which (funny) songs seem acceptable or not depending upon the background of the person in question. See Mrs. Stein doesn't rent to gypsys anymore.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Grab
Date: 15 May 01 - 08:27 AM

Joe, it's rather because the people living there voted by a majority to stay with Britain. Democracy's a bugger that way.

Graham.

Subject: RE: BS: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: GUEST,Joe
Date: 15 May 01 - 05:22 AM

Hello Well Scott you know what If the British Government was so worried about the loss of life from so called terroists acts why the hell don't they give back the rest of Ireland such as they did India and Hong kong. I also know the British wouldn't do such things as shell a city full of innocent people now would they or maybe that one Irish folk song is just a bunch of blarney

Subject: RE: BS: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 15 May 01 - 05:15 AM

By the way, Rambam, just remember we're an international community here, and it would help if you posted in Esperanto.

Not strictly IRA, but does anyone recognise these lines, and is the tune that goes with them the Ash Grove? (Know the tune, just not sure about its name.)

I'm teaching them Irish and painting pillar boxes
All over in green, sure what more can I do?
But they tell me they want just and Irish Republic
Without any trimmings of red, white and blue.

I'd have been with Collins on the free-state side of the barney, but it's a great song. Wish I could remember the rest of it, and who sang it.

Subject: RE: BS: seeking funny I.R.A. Songs
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 15 May 01 - 05:00 AM

LOL, Liz! And thanks Larry - that's a pint of Guinness I owe you by nowe, preferably bottled by P & F McGlade.