Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: jacqui.c
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 07:48 PM

Problem is, until we have a rough idea of who wants to go it and suggestions for actual venues it isn't really possible to give any dates, as we could not be certain of getting a venue for that date.

So far there seems to be very little interest - or 'catters just haven't got into this thread. You might be best off, Liz, coming to the 2006 Getaway with Limpit.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 05:26 AM

Pack a big case Khatt - I'll be in it with Limpit!

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:45 AM

Is the Gathering going to be be near the Getaway dates next year??...we are going to the Getaway and would love to be able to attend the World Gathering too....although it might come to chosing between one or the other!...any dates yet??...

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:35 AM

Jacqui - I see the flaw in your reasoning already. People won't sign up for a place until they have a definate place to sign up for.... and they prefer to be given a choice of dates. I would suggest picking three or four date options, asking people to sign up against those dates and then picking the one most convenient to the most folks.

I for one, am not too bothered where or when, I just want to be there and will take Limpit out of school if necessary so she can come too! The opportunity to travel never came to me until I was in my 20s, all her little friends zoom off to Ibiza & Tenerife and she gets to go to Whitby and Wimborne! You just have to promise to teach her some American history/geography so I can put it down as an educational visit!

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: kendall
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 08:50 AM

Amergin, Gordon Bok is my oldest best friend in the world, and in order to keep it that way, I'm not even going to suggest what you asked!
John, Mickey Mouse lives in the White House, Washington DC.

Wherever you have it, we will be there.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: jacqui.c
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 08:22 AM

Shopping list for a site:-

Accommodation for a good number of people - we really need a rough head count of who is genuinely interested and will be able to make it so let's see some posts please.

Enough meeting areas to set up different workshops and gigs, and space for a larger concert.

Good access to eateries or on site catering.

Provision of space for those who wish to use RV's or tents.

Relatively easy access from major airports.


Anyone want to add to the list?

Anyone got any other ideas for a venue and, if so, can you check out sites in your area?

It may be getting a bit late in the day to really get anything off the ground now but I reckon it's worth trying.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: number 6
Date: 31 May 05 - 11:02 PM

Nova Scotia sounds good to me!

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Sorcha
Date: 31 May 05 - 08:00 PM

OK, looks like Peter is signing up to be the Organizer!!! LOL

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: jacqui.c
Date: 31 May 05 - 05:47 PM

Peter - are there any suitable sites with sufficient accomodation at reasonable cost in Nova Scotia? Can you give details?

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: skarpi
Date: 31 May 05 - 05:24 PM

Alright then I´ll sail the the same way the vikings did to
Newfoundland ....... on a plane though I don´t have any ship.
Novia Scotia..here we come I´ll talk to the Rose´s in the band.
All the best Skarpi Iceland, although it coult be In Iceland
but.......it will be some Gathering in the future i hope.

Slán.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 31 May 05 - 04:24 PM

If wishes were horses we'd all be on Derby winners.....

WE NEED CONFIRMED PLACES PLEASE!

:TS

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff
Date: 31 May 05 - 03:50 PM

I wish that we could all meet in Nova Scotia...because we could all see how life should be.

Peter

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 31 May 05 - 03:42 PM

Me for one, Jacqui,

But the pension is small, and the cost would need to be fairly low.

Don T.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: jacqui.c
Date: 31 May 05 - 12:35 PM

Sounds like a great idea - I know that there was some talk, after the last Getaway, of arranging a Mudcat meet.

So far as organising is concerned Big Mick's good that way and I would be happy to help out in any way I can.

Based on accessability for as many Mudcatters as possible it sounds as if the East Coast USA is getting to be favourite. Do we have agreement? We will need to scout around for sites, like NOW, to get anything for next year.

Who's really serious about this?

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: mooman
Date: 31 May 05 - 11:54 AM

See...I got an echo back from Iceland!

Peace

moo (hoping to come wherever it is)

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: skarpi
Date: 31 May 05 - 04:14 AM

Last time i saw this thread it was Novia Scotia??
All the best Skarpi Iceland.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 31 May 05 - 01:52 AM

SO WHAT IS HAPPENING?

I've just about got Manitas to a point where he has said, yes, we can go to America next year, but we need to know when and where!

I can bring copies of the Just Desserts cookbook with me..... if that's any enticement?

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: GUEST,Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 30 May 05 - 07:50 PM

East coast USA, or Iceland (but only at the height of summer), either works for me. I retire in Feb '06, and, if a charter from England were cheap enow, I'd love to come.

Keep me posted by PM, please.

Don T.

PS. Back door, as guest, 'cos the front's locked up agin.

DT.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: skarpi
Date: 30 May 05 - 07:25 PM

Spaw no proplem , we could arrange some of this and the beer
it´s flooding here in Iceland , 20years ago comon.....
times change you know you can get as much beer you like .
Iceland out yeh right ....hahahahahaha

all the best Skarpi Iceland.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: mooman
Date: 30 May 05 - 05:18 PM

I'm sure this has been mentioned in a more recent thread. Wasn't the last idea somewhere in Nova Scotia?

Peace

moo

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Sorcha
Date: 30 May 05 - 05:08 PM

OK, is somebody going to Organize this or is it dead?

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Sorcha
Date: 30 May 05 - 05:06 PM

Refresh!

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: annamill
Date: 05 Jun 02 - 01:43 PM

Hi. I'm all for the FSGW Maryland place. It is a perfect setup for this type of an affair. I believe this was discussed while Bill was over here and even then it seemed to be the consensus.

I've bought a 34' boat and Glenn and I have named it "The Getaway". That is what we call the FSGW event.

Love, Annamill

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Amergin
Date: 05 Jun 02 - 11:41 AM

here is part 2 of this thread: click here

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 05 Jun 02 - 11:00 AM

If it was Nova Scotia I'd definitely make the effort. But Ramblewood seems to be getting the vote, which sounds pretty good too. If that's not possible, and it's during vacations (September?) it would be worth checking some colleges, many of which could provide all accomodation (including camping) on site, along with a first-class auditorium.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Peg
Date: 05 Jun 02 - 09:51 AM

Nova Scotia sounds great.

I agree with those who say that it is necessary to have the location be near a major airport, to keep flying prices down and make ground travel less problematic. There is a ferry which travels from Portland, Maine to Nova Scotia which, by 2006, will be accessible via commuter train from Boston! So there's a thought. Nova Scotia is rather a long drive and I hear the ferry is great! (you can bring your car on it, too, if you want).

I assume most people will want to do this in summer or fall; I think the Northeast US/Nova Scotia would be the best bet weather-wise.

Autumn is more likely off-season for Nova Scotia. I think we simply need to reserve a hotel to get group rates, and maybe try to find a beach or public park nearby where we could have outdoor barbecues and picnics and sing-arounds...also the hotel should have function rooms that we could have indoor music events in, as well as a room for merchants to sell their CDs, t-shirts, etc. and smaller rooms if anyone wants to hold workshops or specific music events during the week. (I'd guess most people will merely want to socialize and have small song circles so the "organized" events should be kept to a minimum).

those are my thoughts, so far.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Big Mick
Date: 05 Jun 02 - 12:52 AM

You folks need a good organizer?

Mick

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jun 02 - 06:23 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rolfyboy6
Date: 02 Feb 02 - 03:04 PM

Just as an addition/restatement, there are multiple areas of the Mid-Atlantic states which have the necessary airport access, the lodging, the semi-rural or rural environment, and access to worthwhile tourist facilities and sites similar to Camp Ramblewood. The Poconos come to mind. The Ramblewood site sounds great if it is do-able, and there are others. Sounds like the criteria needed are being worked on here now. Also, about heat: It can be dog-day hot anywhere inland in North America during June thru October. UK Mudcatters might discover why beer is cold here (it goes with a damp t-shirt).

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 02 Feb 02 - 11:59 AM

I think this is a good idea, could we all put money together and hire a plane? How much will it be roughly? If people are travelling from all over the world could we go for a full week?

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: catspaw49
Date: 26 Oct 01 - 11:20 AM

That's OK....Off season there ain't no snow! Well maybe just a bit depending on the place..........Unless the ski lodge is in the flatlands of course where there ain't no hills........

Spaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 26 Oct 01 - 10:43 AM

But I don't ski.....

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 26 Oct 01 - 09:36 AM

Just a suggestion - off-season coastal towns were mentioned, but how about out-of-season ski resorts? I was at a conference in one before. They'd be a good price and could hold a load of people.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 26 Oct 01 - 09:26 AM

If by some chance it was on the West Coast, couldn't we rent this 'Bohemian Grove' place I've heard about? Sounds like groups of friends take trips out there quite often, for 2-week holidays. Hmmmmm?

Dai - quoting from the Liber Fubar again

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: MMario
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 08:33 PM

I agree.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Jeri
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 07:09 PM

I think Ramblewood would be a good idea, but not Getaway weekend. There will undoubtedly be a lot of Mudcat-related stuff, and it causes some hard feelings now. It would be worse with more Mudcatters.

I DO think we should invite folks from FSGW, as they've generously opened their doors to us for 3 years now. It would be just plain rude not to, and I happen to like a lot of them and their music!

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Noreen
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 06:42 PM

I'll help you out, Ickle... (cybercafés have come to Whitby????)

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: GUEST,Ickle in Whitby
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 01:34 PM

I realise at this moment in time, that I need to rush to the nearest Safeways and buy one of those giant bottles of Whiskey drink it in one go, and then start putting pound coins in it. Oh the sacrifice!!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Burke
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 05:15 PM

Are we talking something just on a weekend? With this amount of lead time & people coming a long way, why not make it a real vacation, longer & during the week, or a least running into the week. If we wanted to coordinate with FSGW, make it Mon.-Thurs. the week following. I bet the rates would be cheaper then as well.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 01:51 PM

Even if you want to do a weekend separate from the Getaway, Ramblewood might be a good facility, providing the weather isn't too cold. (For a cold-weather place, may I suggest a seaside hotel in off-season, where the rates will be cheap? Places on the [New] Jersey shore, or Ocean City, MD come to mind.) And as Dean noted above, there are logistics to be dealt with; insurance, and cash to guarantee the rental (and cover shortfalls, if attendance isn't what it's supposed to be).

--Charlie Baum

Note to Erik the Viking: US Civil War sites such as Gettysburg, Antietam, and Harper's Ferry are within an hour-and-a-half's drive of the area.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: GUEST,Noreen
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 01:36 PM

*sigh* Maybe we'll all come to you then?

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: annamill
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 01:11 PM

Tee Hee! Me too, as well as floating in a cool ocean in February enjoying the heat from a warm sun. California dreamin'.

L.A.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: GUEST,Noreen
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 01:01 PM

annamill, I wonder where I'll be and what I'll be doing 6 years from now??

thinking back with happy memories of the previous year's Mudcat World Gathering, I hope! *grin*

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 12:21 PM

Well Dean, as I just posted on the other thread about interaction problems, I don't think it's worth the risk to the relationship.

The two events might work out within some time proximity of each other or not. But judging from the responses on the other thread.......I still think it's no a good idea.

Sorry Allan.......But then again, my track record for attendance at these things is pretty gawdawful so maybe I need to keep my mouth shut........too late for that...

Spaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: annamill
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 12:16 PM

I wonder where I'll be and what I'll be doing 6 years from now?? I hope to be in La Jolla, Cali way before then...

Well, where ever I am, I'll be there. I think Ramblewood is a great idea and we should set up a Getaway 2006 fund to help our friends who wouldn't be able to get there otherwise, get there. If we start now, we could have a pretty penny by then.

We would need a collector, and an investor to increase any monies collected. A pro if possible. Of course we could just throw it in the bank and get 2% or 3%.

Many more could be there.

I would like to have the gathering separate from our FSGW meeting though. I would like to see it all Mudcatters.

Great idea that has been thrown around for about two years now. Let's do it!

Love, Annamill

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: DeanC
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 12:14 PM

If you want to seriously consider this idea then you need to think about the following. You will have to reserve someplace by putting up some money and guaranteeing some amount. It's not clear to me that Mudcat can do that on its own. For that reason you may wish to more seriously consider the FSGW Getaway at Camp Ramblewood as the vehicle for this gathering. FSGW already fronts and guarantees the cash. They also provide insurance, a sound system, and lots of logistical support for the event. I don't think FSGW would mind at all.

Camp Ramblewood is with a couple of hours of Washington, Baltimore, and Philadelphia (only about an hour from West Chester, PA, the home of Mudcat) and 3 to 4 hours from New York. That gives people plenty of flight options with reasonable drives to the camp. The only real downside I can see to using the Getaway is that it is during the school year, and those of us that have kids might find it a little more difficult to deal with that. There is plenty of room for kids, and they have as good a time as the adults according to my son.

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 11:56 AM

I'm still stuck to school holidays whatever the time. The main summer break-I'd never get leave of absence from the Mrs and kids- gettting to the states will be a hard enough job-they all want to go!(Also can't get time off school!) I'm not one for tourist things unless it's Civil war sites. Looks like I'll never get there.

Unless I'm not working then, having won the lotto!!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: The_one_and_only_Dai
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 10:58 AM

touché, my honourable friend... are you volunteering for this excellent plan of mine then??

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Cllr
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 10:24 AM

What if some high-up European politoco mudcatter develops fascistic, imperialist tendencies?

What are you insinuating? and what do you mean If?

Cllr

Subject: RE: Mudcat World Gathering (US) 2006
From: Allan C.
Date: 24 Oct 01 - 09:02 AM

It seems to me that if there were folks coming across the pond (expecially for the first time) to the U.S., they would want to have access to other nearby attractions in order to do the tourist thing when not at the gathering. Reasonable proximity to an international airport could be an important factor as well. As much as I would want to see such a gathering happen in the western part of the States, (knowing that there are 'Catters out there who are quite nearly as geographically separated from eastern U.S. folk events as the 'Catters in the U.K.,) I think that Ramblewood seems to fill the bill. It has lots of sleeping space, seems to tolerate tent-campers as well, has a huge central meeting area, large-enough dining facilities and plenty of "break-out" areas for workshops, etc.. Besides, the grounds are really quite pretty.

Another consideration is that if we were expecting any sort of commercial support from music-oriented companies, they would be more likely to support something that is located not too far off the beaten track. The Getaway has so far been a rather un-commercialized event; but something like what we are considering might need to have more involvement along those lines to help subsidize costs.

Autumn is generally the best time for any such gathering because the temperatures are usually more tolerable and rain is less of a possibility (I think) than it is in spring. Besides, as has been pointed out, the whole area is really quite beautiful at that time of year.

If we planned to hold the international gathering just before the annual Getaway, some of the visitors might possibly be able to stay over for that (unless, of course, the two events were somehow combined [hint, hint]).