BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Raptor
Date: 28 Jan 06 - 07:59 AM

When doctors have the choice to work for healthcare or make more at a private clinic how many in Moncton do you supose will be without a doctor?

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 28 Jan 06 - 07:50 AM

Hospital for a chest cold... perhaps he does not have a family doctor in Ottawa and went to the hospital like everyone else without a doc? We have about 3000 people here in Moncton without a family doc. Of course, you would think he could go to the local military doc.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 28 Jan 06 - 01:59 AM

"China currently maintains a minimal intercontinental nuclear deterrent using land-based intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs). The Dong Feng-5 (DF-5) liquid-fueled missile, first deployed in 1981, has a range of 13,000 km and carries a single multi-megaton warhead. Twenty are believed to be deployed in central China, southwest of Beijing. Unlike China's earlier ballistic missiles, which were stored in caves and moved out for launch, the DF-5 can be launched directly from vertical silos—but only after a two-hour fueling process. In order to increase the survivability of the DF-5s, dummy silos are placed near the real silos. The DF-5's range gives it coverage of all of Asia and Europe, and most of the United States. The south-eastern US states are at the edge of the missile's range."

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 28 Jan 06 - 01:49 AM

The yuan did NOT give George Bush permission to invade Iraq.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 28 Jan 06 - 01:46 AM

Now I suppose some clown's gonna say, "But, the yuan's in New York."

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 28 Jan 06 - 01:44 AM

OK. Where does a guy get lots of yuan?

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 28 Jan 06 - 01:43 AM

I just checked Google maps. There is no bridge there. Of course, the satellite images of Earth are likely eight months old. This is beginning to worry me. Has anyone actually been inside the House of Commons lately, and are there lots of Chinese people there?

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 28 Jan 06 - 01:40 AM

"The Chinese are very Conservative. Why do you think the Conservatives won?"

Because they are Chinese?

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Metchosin
Date: 28 Jan 06 - 01:39 AM

Yeah, watch out! The Chinese are up there building a new land bridge across the Bering Strait right now.....millions of them.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 06 - 01:29 AM

China doesn't have to buy Canada. They just invade and take-over by sheer numbers alone. The Chinese are very Conservative. Why do you think the Conservatives won?

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: number 6
Date: 28 Jan 06 - 01:02 AM

Do you think China will buy us ... or will Harper give his consent to the U.S. that they can include us as a cheap add-on when they finally sell themselves off (lock, stock and barrel) to the Chinese?

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jan 06 - 12:57 AM

AR282, you said, "Then the first thing the new govt does is warn the US to stay out of its Arctic waters unless they ask for permission first--"

Thats just a red herring.

The first thing Harper does is assure the Canadian public that he only has the best interests of Canada in mind. At the same time he is busy assuring Bush that NORAD will be extended perpetually.

While blowing hot-air, he will sell Canada to the highest bidder.

Eventually, he will conspire with Bush (they have two years to do this) to increase security and build up the military.

Harper will probably put nuclear subs in the Arctic (at our expense) to combat terrorism under the guise of defending our shores against U.S. incursions.

God help us all.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 08:34 PM

FWIW, I heard from a friend that Canada was having its difficulties with it all during the Cold War because we had no subs that could track or engage either the USSR or the US. They of course knew that and used the passage quite freely--being wary of each other because we had no way to stop them anyway.

That makes sense. Due to the frozen surface, the subs have to be nuclear. Non nuclear subs require regular supplies of O2, and the only way to do that is to surface. Therefore, diesel subs were out. Nuclear subs can stay surfaced for months at a time. (Shanghaiceltic was a submariner, and he could explain this much better than I ever could.)

The situation prompted Ottawa (I think it was Axworthy) to say that they would build ten nuclear subs, That never came about.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 08:25 PM

"Canadians with long memories will recall the nationwide furor that arose in 1969 when the U.S. supertanker Manhattan sailed through the Northwest Passage without seeking Ottawa's permission. In 1985, the U.S. Coast Guard icebreaker Polar Side made a similar trip without telling Ottawa.

And in 1987 American authorities released stunning photographs of three U.S. nuclear-powered submarines surfacing through the ice at the North Pole."

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 08:22 PM

But that would be telling, TBPL.

I know it's been a bone of contention for years.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 05:25 PM

I'd be obliged to have a definition of 'regularly' ...

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 05:01 PM

"...submarines regularly use it." Then there is definitely a tax that can be levied on passage in the Northwest... the Stantax?

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Raptor
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 04:59 PM

Poor steven didn't have asthma he had a chest cold and had to go to the hospital for that!

That my friends why people have to wait in emerge for hours with serious problems. Because ASSHOLES go in with non threatning conditions like a chest cold. The prick.He could have gone to his doctor.

Is this how he plans to fix the healthcare by abusing it?

Raptor

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: GUEST,AR282
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 04:57 PM

The NW passage has always been navigable for Navy subs and now Canada is saying no. Not because the ice is melting--I don't know if it is or not and I don't know what that has to do with anything. Nor do I care if Canada can enforce the no-trespass or not. I just love the fact that Washington thought Canadian conservatives would be happy to lick their balls and got them bitten instead. Gotta luv it!!

Hey, maybe we should invade Canada via the NW Passage, I'm sure we'll be hailed as lilberators! HAHAHA!

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 04:49 PM

"it's only becoming navigable because the f*cking ice is melting!"

Actually, submarines regularly use it.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 04:43 PM

Maybe the laughter will subside when you realize why there's a need to establish sovereignty over the NW passage ... it's only becoming navigable because the f*cking ice is melting!

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Charmion
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 04:41 PM

Conservatives traditionally have no sense of ha-ha on territorial issues -- remember John Diefenbaker and his terrible relationship with Kennedy? Mulroney got away with NAFTA because it was about money, not land.

Mr Harper is in for an interesting if stressful time. I hope he keeps his asthma puffer in his jacket pocket.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: bobad
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 04:38 PM

He's just blowing a lot of steam, Canada has no way to enforce the no trespass.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: GUEST,AR282
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 04:34 PM

I love this:

No sooner did conservatives win in Canada and coservative America high-fived each other. Then the first thing the new govt does is warn the US to stay out of its Arctic waters unless they ask for permission first--something the liberal govt never demanded!

HAHAHA! I love it!

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 03:42 PM

USD at Cdn 1.1496???? Hmmm? I said HMMM?!

Must scare the crap outta those Canucks what bought yer US$ after Katrina, eh? Can you say softwood up the arse? Hmmm. I wonder.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 02:13 PM

He almost looks like an extra in a Corb Lund Band video... bring yer truck!

As much as I have shit on the guy, he now has the chance to show us what he is made of. I hope he does some good and I hope he stays around long enough to do so. Surely he won't pull a "Joe Who"??

Hmmm. Joe. There's another guy who could have been a great PM but got fucked by timing and integrity.

Another hmmm... "Petitpet" could be a nickname for Frank... a la "Petit Pierre"? There are similitudes, mostly in a "no bullshit" attitude. He certainly could stink things up for the Con's if he pulls a "Steve Who". (Ah... pour les Anglephone, "pet" en Shaque = "fart" en Anglais.)

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: bobad
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 12:51 PM

Why he sure is LarryK, as can be attested to by this photo.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 11:18 AM

I was hoping that Quebec would separate from canada because than it would be 4 hours quicker to drive to Nova Scotia.

Since the new PM is from the west, is he a "cowboy" like Bush?

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 10:59 AM

Tobin, on the other hand, speaks bot wit a h'accent.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 10:57 AM

What could be more French than Frank? Frankaphone he is... he is completely bilangue, en Francais d'Acadie. Il parles witout no accent, him.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Metchosin
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 10:53 AM

PS thanks for the concern people, very much appreciated.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Metchosin
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 10:45 AM

Aren't the Liberals by tradition supposed to come up with someone with a French sounding name this time around?

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 09:44 AM

I should hope not... pretty serious stuff when ya can't breathe. Imagine if he had been eating pretzels!! Deja who?

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Raptor
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 09:39 AM

I bet he didn't wait long

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 09:38 AM

I just heard.... Bob Rae. From a news article...

"Of the three, Rae is probably the longest shot, since the former New Democrat premier of Ontario has never been a card-carrying Liberal. However, he has formidable connections to the Liberals, not least of whom is brother John Rae, vice-president of Power Corp., and the brains behind former prime minister Jean Chretien's three successful election campaigns.

Both Chretien and Martin wooed Rae in the past to run for the Liberals. As an outsider with admirers in both camps, he might be well placed to heal the schism left from the 10 year Martin-Chretien civil war."

Hmmm.

Ah, Tobin is the third referred to in the article. Hmmm.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 09:10 AM

I see that Stevie ended up in hospital yesterday due to an asthma attack. I think it was probably just that he couldn't catch his breath after hearing that Frank submitted his resignation.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 09:08 AM

Thanks Metchosin. I hope she does well during the recovery, and, of course, beyond. She does sound like one tough old girl!!!

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Raptor
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 01:14 AM

Great news indeed!
Raptor

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 01:13 AM

Wonderful news, Metchosin.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Metchosin
Date: 27 Jan 06 - 12:53 AM

gnu, Mum's doing fine considering. She's one tough old bird. They did her surgery this morning and had her up on her feet this afternoon with a walker. She's got a nice steel plate and some pins in her arm and according to her orthopedic surgeon she should be out in about a week. It will take about 11 weeks for her pelvic fractures to fully heal.

I thought the injuries to to her pelvis would finish an 85 year old, but not according according to her doctor. There was no displacement so they are not as serious as a broken hip. They've stuck a nicotine patch on her to keep her from climbing the walls and asked me to keep her supplied with a wee dram as a nightcap while she's in there. Wonders never cease.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 26 Jan 06 - 08:58 PM

The two things he'd have to handle: His support of the Missile Defense Program and the advocacy of limited 'torture'--sleep deprivation and hoods over the heads of prisoners. No doubt that he's bright, intelligent, well-spoken.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: bobad
Date: 26 Jan 06 - 08:33 PM

Any thoughts on Michael Ignatieff ? I admire his intelligence and the best thing about him is that he is not a politician - sometimes that is a good thing. When I hear smooth, as applied to a politician, I think oleaginous, as in Brian Mulroney.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jan 06 - 06:34 PM

Yeah... timing is everthing... that's what she said.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Jan 06 - 05:17 PM

Well, then, I guess it was just the wrong time for him.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jan 06 - 04:50 PM

Sorry LH... he had a clear idea. He was the best man for the job. Honest... didn't need the pay or payback now, did he? Smart. Well educated. Well experienced. Excellent service and track record... balanced the budget... etc... etc... etc. Could have been one of the finest PM's ever. Only thing was, Canucks were ready for a change. Barely.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Jan 06 - 04:27 PM

Yes, I think McKenna would prove to be a very good choice for Liberal leader. Martin was a poor choice from the start. I don't think he had any clear idea why he wanted to be prime minister anymore by the time he got there.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: number 6
Date: 26 Jan 06 - 04:25 PM

Well said gnu ... especially in your thread at 3:34. If anyone can pull it together it's Frank ... as I said it's exciting news that is developing ... more so than the mediocre election. As per the French issue, look at his stint in law, and in NB politics in regards to the Acadians. he has insight, guts, is a straight shooter, humanity and yes gnu smmmmmoth.

"best social program we have is a job." .... Frank Mckenna

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jan 06 - 04:24 PM

Hahaha... when Frank speaks.....

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: Peace
Date: 26 Jan 06 - 04:17 PM

Face like a bulldog lickin' piss off a thistle.

Subject: RE: BS: OH NO! Libs loosing in Canuckistan
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jan 06 - 04:13 PM

Hehehe... besides... as far as "waiting" goes... look at the guy. He looks like a fuckin nasty old junkyard dog. Like he can't wait to bite somebody's ass. But, real smooth like, smilin an all, ya know?