BS: smoking in uk pubs

Subject: RE: BS: smoking in uk pubs
From: The Barden of England
Date: 13 Jan 07 - 04:19 AM

I'm an ex-smoker, gave up 15 years ago, and I'm all for the smoking ban. Seeing as approx. 2/3rds of the population don't smoke, where is the other 1/3rd's right to say they have the exclusive right to smoke where they want? The majority should have the say and I firmly believe it is the right thing to do, and furthermore I know quite a few smokers who would really like to give up and think this measure will make it easier for them.
John Barden

Subject: RE: BS: smoking in uk pubs
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 13 Jan 07 - 03:38 AM

I'm another non-smoker, and with the help of Medway Maritime hospital smoking killed my wife. I think the people who get their knickers in a twist about other people smoking should try practising that good old English virtue of tolerance.

Subject: RE: BS: smoking in uk pubs
From: Partridge
Date: 13 Jan 07 - 03:29 AM

BTW the smoking area in my watering hole has an air filter and is in a seperate area to the main room(seperated by two doors and corridor of about twenty feet)

You would be quite happy in the main room - its completely smoke free.

You only have to wait until July and you will be able to go to any pub without any nasty side effects.

I'm not a selfish smoker and I don't think I've proved any point at all

Pat

Subject: RE: BS: smoking in uk pubs
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 13 Jan 07 - 03:04 AM

Yep, you just proved my point about selfish smokers, Partridge.

Now if all smokers piss off, I'll be able to go to the pub again and enjoy the atmosphere in comfort and warmth without ending up stinking like shit, with a throat like sandpaper, eyes like piss-holes in the snow and coughing like a broken down old mare for the next three days.

BTW - 'smoking areas' don't work, smoke has scant regard for non-physical boundaries. The proper place for a 'smoking area' is outside. If it's cold and uncomfortable, get over it, no-one forces you to practise your filthy habit. While you're freezing your balls off, it might be a good time to think about how much healthier you'd be, and warmer and drier, if you knocked it off.

Subject: RE: BS: smoking in uk pubs
From: Partridge
Date: 13 Jan 07 - 01:44 AM

I'm pissed off too. I think I'll vote with my feet, unless they make a smoking area that is comfortable(warm and dry)

Subject: RE: BS: smoking in uk pubs
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 13 Jan 07 - 01:07 AM

"this REALLY pisses me off, to be told that I cannot now go out for a beer & have a cigarette."

You can - the only difference is that you'll have to have your coffin-nail outside, so you don't poison others round you and ruin their evenings.

What pisses me off is to go out for a beer and be FORCED to have selfish people's cigarettes second-hand.

Subject: RE: BS: smoking in uk pubs
From: Alice
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 09:18 PM

When I am in a pub with smokers, it makes my eyes sting and water, my throat sore and in general makes me sick.
When public places in our state capital city here became non-smoking, heart attacks going to the hospital emergency room dropped. A study showed it was because fewer people were breathing in second hand smoke. Not kidding.

Subject: RE: BS: smoking in uk pubs
From: BanjoRay
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 09:06 PM

Well I've been a non-smoker for thirty years after smoking for the previous ten. I think it'll be great. When I play in a pub session, if there's one smoker in the room I'll cough all night after I get home. After a non-smoking session I'm fine.
I used to work in the Coal industry. I used to see miners go down the pit for 8 or twelve hours where smoking is forbidden and not even think about smoking till they got out, when they'd get a cig from where they'd hidden it in a wall and smoke their way back to the pithead baths. It's all in the mind.
Ray

Subject: RE: BS: smoking in uk pubs
From: artbrooks
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 08:50 PM

Well, I'm not a smoker, so my basic perspective on it is certainly a bit different. The bars and restaurants here (Albuquerque, New Mexico) went smokeless a while back, and it makes them much more (IMHO) pleasant to be in. There was a lot of concern about business (as in money coming in) going down, but it hasn't happened. As for the rights of smokers? Dunno - lots of ways to look at that.

Subject: RE: BS: smoking in uk pubs
From: GUEST,Non - Smoker
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 08:33 PM

As a non smoker I actually am against the ban. This is yet again the results of pressure groups telling us all what way to live our lives. There are massive extractor fans in all the bars in my area.

Twenty years ago we had closet homosexuals,they came out and they kept the closet doors open and now push the smokers into them.

A few years ago I was sick to the teeth listening to Roy Castles going on about he got lung cancer from smoke he inhaled in clubs.

Was he pulled into them by the arm ? Was he not well paid in these clubs ?

See in California some fruitcake is now calling for a ban on smoking in the streets.

Subject: RE: BS: smoking in uk pubs
From: Bernard
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 08:33 PM

I'm a life-long non smoker, and I sympathise with your problem... sounds daft? Well, it's quite simple. I've grown up with people smoking around me, and whilst I prefer them not to smoke (especially in my house), I find I'm reasonably tolerant as I'm used to it.

I find the people who are most vehemently against others smoking are those who have successfully quit...!

No, I think it's a little unreasonable to expect smokers to go out for a drink and not be able to smoke. If pubs weren't so 'open plan' it would be simple to solve the problem by having some rooms for smokers and others non-smoking.

A 'smoking area' in a restaurant, though, is like having a 'peeing area' in a swimming pool...!

Subject: BS: smoking in uk pubs
From: skipy
Date: 12 Jan 07 - 08:21 PM

As of 1 July 2007, there will be no smoking in u/k pubs.
I am a smoker but I do not smoke in singarounds at festivals & I do not have a problem with this, I am happy not to smoke in restaraunts, non smoker's house or their cars, but this REALLY pisses me off, to be told that I cannot now go out for a beer & have a cigarette.
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