BS: I am not perfect after all

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket being patriotic
Date: 16 Jul 13 - 05:36 AM

Oh yeah? What about Wayne Rooney's missus? She managed it.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 16 Jul 13 - 03:29 AM

All this friggin' BLA-BLA and not one...not ONE person!...has stepped forward to speak in favor of primate-human marriage rights! Not ONE!!! And this while Chimps, Gorillas, Baboons, Orangutans, Bonobos, Monkeys of all types, and their beloved human partners are bein' denied full and equal marriage rights in every single country in the WORLD by prejudiced HUMANS!

Yer nothin' but a bunch of hate-filled specist dupes. No free banana for any of YOU when I get elected!

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket evolving slowly
Date: 16 Jul 13 - 01:24 AM

Must be hard for you siding with Akenaton on such matters. Reading the pure unadulterated hate he expresses, do you keep a straight face when saying he is being objective and I'm not?

Now we all have our personal marriage situations and history laid bare, the situation hasn't altered one jot. Akenaton would prevent people getting married on the basis theyccan't procreate. If they are heterosexual he doesn't mind but if they are gay, the marriage possibly won't run the course so why bother permitting it?

Perhaps someone other than I should quote the definition of bigot? I don't seem to be getting through.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 05:49 PM

I think that if a gay couple commits to one another they out to have the same rights and responsibilities as any other.


I got married for the first time at 44, my wife was 47 and with no prospect of kids our marriage it was not a license to go forth and multiply. I have no problem with gays having the privileges of marriage, if they are willing to live by the oath. People in this country talk about "defense of marriage" their efforts would be much better spent fighting unplanned single motherhood and the 50% divorce rate. That is where marriage needs defending.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: akenaton
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 05:19 PM

Perhaps I should have explained Ian.
When we decided to get married, my fiance wanted a church wedding, although my fiance was a church member, I being an Atheist was not.
The minister told us that as I was not a member of the Church of Scotland he would refuse to marry us in church.
I was a little pissed off, but we were married in an hotel by a minister friend of my wife's.
On reflexion I now feel that he was correct, if folks want to use the church for "hatches, matches and despatches" they should respect the traditions of the institution.

Perhaps if unbelievers had the media power of homosexuals we could have been married in church...:0)

Tres fin.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: akenaton
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 04:54 PM

:0)
"Compared to that twisting turning overcrowded boulder strewn hairpin turn infested goat path that is Musket's mind. Akenaton's logic is a straight and level 85 mph Texas toll road."

What a great line Jack, wish I had wrote-it.
I'm printing it out and framing it!!    :0)

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 04:29 PM

If disagreeing over the facts of an argument means that one is bigoted than I** M***** is easily the most bigoted entity on this forum. I think that Akenaton is on the wrong side of the gay marriage debate. But that does not mean he is bigoted. As he correctly points out I**, tends to grossly exaggerate. But not just stats in an argument. He also puffs up his opponents positions, his own credentials and that delusion of discernment he think of as his sense of humour.

Compared to that twisting turning overcrowded boulder strewn hairpin turn infested goat path that is Musket's mind. Akenaton's logic is a straight and level 85 mph Texas toll road.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket curious
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 04:21 PM

I'm married. Whilst my previous marriage bore two fine lads, we didn't marry the other year to have children. All the negative points regarding gay marriage that the disgusting worm speaks of would apply to me and would apply to hundreds of thousands of married couples in The UK.

As I said, nobody stopped you getting married. No law prevented it. If individuals didn't want you to get married, that's nothing to do with this debate. I don't understand why you said it.

I don't understand how people can have such odious views and not keep them in their head where people won't be so embarrassed being around them.

Is UK education so bad that we can still hear such things? Or is it a reflection on our health care. ..

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Ian Mather
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 04:04 PM

I couldn't have put it better myself.

I hope fin means what it should mean. Difficult to have fun in threads till you slink off.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: akenaton
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 12:50 PM

Final word....Male homosexuals appear to have become more, not less promiscuous since "civil union" was brought forward....why should it be different in the case of "gay marriage"

It is quite clear that practicing homosexuals are not intersted in monogamy, promiscuity seems to be an integral part of male same sex behaviour.
Gay Marriage is a cause celebre of the "liberal left", linked wrongly to equality and human rights.....it is an activist issue.....fin

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: akenaton
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 12:41 PM

The Scottish Independence referendum was not "given", it was demanded and enabled by the Scottish electorate voting overwhelmingly for the Scottish National Party.

The 10% you quote is a deliberate lie, the official rate of homosexuals in the population is just over 2%. If the rates dont matter, why lie about them?
Equality is not a dirty word, especially in law....but conventional marriage and homosexual "marriage" are not and will never be equal.
Homosexuals couples are of the same sex, so, incapable of conceiving or bearing their natural children, thus they are also prevented from building an extended natural family structure....both cornerstones of traditional marriage.
The only way is to attempt to re-define the word "marriage" to accomodate a tiny fraction of the 2% of the population who actually wish to use it, to the detriment and concern of hundreds of thousands who are already married or who wish to be conventionally married in the future.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: akenaton
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 12:21 PM

"Nobody wanted to prevent you from getting married"

Oh YES they did!.....You know fuck all about me, do you?

You assume too much....I would never presume to pry or guess about your private life.....go roll with the pigs.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket having nicked iPad from Ian
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 11:08 AM

Ok Jerk!

If you want to write comedy, get a script writer. Best get a British one for that matter, one who understands irony.

THWWWWWTTTHHHHWWWWWRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know how to do lol now, though I doubt I shall in future, but I appear to be having problems expressing the throwing of a raspberry in his general direction. If anyone would show me, I'd be obliged as ever.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Ian Mather and a serious point
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 11:02 AM

10%?

If it were two people out of a population of 70,000,000 the case would be the same.

Government entertainment media as you call it is giving Scotland the independence vote too. Is that a sideshow distraction?

The benefits of a gay marriage are fuck all to do with you or I for that matter. Except of course the NHS cost benefits of less promiscuous lifestyle through the monogamy promoting aspects of marriage.

Nobody wanted to prevent you from getting married. Nobody asked if society would benefit from your marriage.

If equality is a dirty word, I happily roll with the pigs.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: akenaton
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 09:53 AM

In really am sick of Ian and Richard, so will not be contributing further to this thread, but as I am a stickler for figures, I could not let Ian's 10% go.

This is typical of Ian, he knows perfectly well what the official percentage of homosexuals in the population is, but just cannot help himself, he must exaggerate everything on his side of the equation, he is so unsure of his stance, that he takes every opportunity to slip in a little black lie to help his cause.

All the rhetoric is a desperate attempt to conceal the poverty of his argument......when are we going to see some facts about the benefits of homosexual marriage, or the reasons for the atrocious homosexual health figures.

Oh I remember!!! Equality, equality, equality. Do you really think there is social equality or equality under the law in this society?

Instead of jailing the leaders of a financial system which is about to impoverish most of our society, cause death and starvation to the poor and sick, govt by the entertainment media gives us???

"Gay Marriage"......god save the Queen!

Grow up the pair of you.....you aren't stupid, it must be a mental block!

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 09:26 AM

Heh! And the entertainment rolls on...

Perfection is becoming a more elusive goal with each passing day.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 06:41 AM

Talking about your multiple personalities in the third person again???

Uh! Oh!!

LOL

You could have made things easier on your self. You could have behaved like a nice normal inmate. But no! You had to act up!! What is it going to be eh? Thorozine? Lithium? Straight jacket? Rubber room? Lobotomy?

So many choices, so little time. Time to call in Nurse Ratchet on a consult.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 05:20 AM

Wannabee Pharoah allegedly typed a reasoned post? Musht be shome mishtake shurely.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket sanctimonious as a sailor
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 04:03 AM

Carry on? Be more appropriate if you said "lead on McDuff. "

Diplomacy. . Let's see. No. The pimple on my arse isn't useful for that. I have a Blue Peter badge if that helps. Didn't get it from the telly though, I swapped it for some airfix models.

Frankly, Musket doesn't do diplomacy. Ian does when he is being serious but have you noticed that silly bugger time is usually invoked AFTER reason has nipped out for a fag?

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 03:54 AM

Ah, the diplomacy of the debonair I** M*****. Status quo it is then! Carry on!

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket sans imperfection
Date: 15 Jul 13 - 01:23 AM

You forgot to mention the pimple on my arse.

In most threads it is about as relevant as the other attributes you wish to mock.

I take it you have nothing material to add to any debate then? Name calling and trying to belittle seems to be your safety valve once your general ignorance is found out.

I don't want you to stop calling me anything. Be nice if you stopped calling per se.



Hi littlehawk. Yeah, making light of a serious situation. Giraffes at one end of the scale, many many more at the other. Must be those eye lashes. ......

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 08:06 PM

"Musket sanctimonious as a sailor "

Well well well, Finally blow the name gasket have you?

I've told you I don't care if you use my name. I would have told you my name if you had asked and said "please."


I've told you that I use your name

A. because that horse is already out of the barn. I discovered that Musket and Ian Mather were one from reading your conversations with others. Anyone worth their salt who wants to know that, knows that.

B. You never once asked me not to use your names, though you TOLD me a couple of times.

C. You said you were using "Musket" so that you could mock and take the piss without consequence. I use Jack the Sailor because that's how people know me here.

D. The way you put it, you appeared to be saying that you had lied to the reporter and that using "musket" is a continuation. So you were ordering me to aid and abet your lie.

E. You are constantly trying to anger me, mock me and insult me. Calling you Ian Mather when you do that really seems to anger you.

If you want us to stop calling you Ian, Mather, Ian Mather, Mather blather or whatever, (it is not just me, you know,) why don't you make a case for it rather than trying to bully us into stopping? Surely a publish author, Phd Physicist, world traveling health administrator, with the shining, glorious resume you have claimed to have over these months can write a short note and make your case that we should not address you as the person we know you to be.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 06:22 PM

"bowl from the pavilion end"?

Not quite sure what you mean, but maybe I get it...I did read once that it's quite common for male giraffes to engage in homosexual behaviour (moreso than most other species do)...that is, they will form close relationships between males and mount each other. Why this occurs a lot with giraffes, I have no idea.

I don't think it's common for any species but man to engage in actual anal intercourse, though.

I may be wrong.

I do know one thing: the anus was not designed by Nature to serve such a purpose, and in human beings a large amount of such intercourse eventually causes damage to the body. This is probably why TCM (traditional Chinese medicine) has a health advisory against too much "dragon yang" (anal intercourse between males), but no such health advisory against "rubbing mirrors" (various forms of sexual intercourse between 2 females...and no such health advisory against "blowing the trumpet" (fellatio). This is what comes from Taoism...they have the health advisory about anal intercourse (in large amounts)...they have no moral advisory against it, because they don't consider it a matter of morality, only of health...and that's how they look at sex generally, as a health-related matter, not a moral code-related matter.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket evolving slowly
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 05:22 PM

Our PM has his own simian ministers thank you very much. ....

Anyway, can you ask him if chimps ever bowl from the pavilion end? Most creatures do,on account of it being natural. (As what I say is analysed by some, best to play to the gallery. )

Back to the thread. I seem to have lurgy and taking decongestant tablets. That cotton wool may be buggering me up. No matter, the cricket today was far more perfect than I could ever be.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 02:17 PM

You are talking about the 10%, I presume, who would vote for Chongo Chimp to replace your present PM if they had the option to? I'd have thought it would be considerably more than that!

(Cackling evilly and scutting off to the bleachers...)

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket curious
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 09:51 AM

Did you have to reread those words or are they sinking in yet?

Perhaps one day you may get to feel the same as 10% of adults in The UK when they read people discussing them and how many concessions normal people feel they might just throw them.

Not nice is it?

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: akenaton
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 06:56 AM

I had typed a reasoned response to Ian's last post,(13 Jul - 12:38 PM) , then I re-read what he had written...."inferior gays", "bigoted", "disgusting worm", "pathetic", "Jerk", "twisted", "hate filled", "scorns equality", all in one short post.....and i though to myself, fuck it,

Enough Ian Already!

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket sanctimonious as a sailor
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 03:15 AM

Yes and yes. Hence warning those of us comfortable enough with our true self that Mudcat comments go far beyond this website.

The reporter from HSJ was tidying up an article I wrote with right of reply by the advisor. The conversations were a few weeks apart and one got mentioned on Mudcat.

Having cleared that up. Who the fuck are you? If you insist on ensuring people know who Musket is, start posting views that you are not ashamed of. Or in other words, if you dare'nt reveal who Jack the Sailor is, don't make a point of replying to Musket with Dear Ian.

Oh, and don't just say many know who you are. I do for that matter. If you want to remain obscure, (not a bad idea given the stupidity of some of your less vitriolic outbursts and nastiness of the rest) don't make a point of trying name and shame as a tool. The sleazy end of newspapers do it far better than you do, and with more integrity.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Jul 13 - 02:12 AM

" Hence it took me back a little when an advisor at Dept of Health seemed to know about my musical and other social views. I changed to Musket then."

"You told me a reporter asked if you were the same Ian Mather as the one on the Mudcat."

Do you ever remember anything you say here?

Do you ever tell the truth?

Its funny that I spent the first half or the Atheist religion thread making the case that you and Shaw and Dawkins were jerks. You and others accused me of name calling. Now you prove that you are a jerk every time you call me that.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket getting his tuppence worth
Date: 13 Jul 13 - 12:38 PM

Opposing gay marriage isn't hate.

Ok

Is this because they are inferior to non gays? Is it that we operate a caste system?

I have no issue with my name. After all, "Musket" posts that I shall or shall not be able to get to certain clubs and concerts. I do recall saying that people should be careful when posting in general on social media as everything can be attributed. I don't care to have my views on Sheffield United (6 fingered weirdos) being used to judge me. Hence it took me back a little when an advisor at Dept of Health seemed to know about my musical and other social views. I changed to Musket then. Not to hide Ian Mather but tohhelp retain a little privacy.

Notwithstanding the fact that you are a bigoted disgusting worm. After all, I can't be insulting a real person, can I? You and your pathetic mate Jerk bring my name to the fore whenever you wish to insult me.

The difference is, I am not so ashamed of my opinion that I hide behind a silly name. Is the person behind Akenaton as twisted and hate filled?

Don't begin to denigrate the views of Musket. Musket is happy to be Ian Mather. Are you happy to let everybody know who it is that scorns equality?   Who says marriage is wrong for sections of society?   I assume the person behind the worm votes. And that is very concerning. ....

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: akenaton
Date: 13 Jul 13 - 09:54 AM

I haven't tried deep fried Mars bars, Hawk... or snapped any goalposts I think Ians may be referring to the famous victory at Wembley(home of Endlish football), by the Scots boys, immediately after the Sassenachs had stolen the World Cup!

I have tossed the caber, thrown the hammer and putted the shot, tho.

Not all at the same time of course, I have my limitations....I'm not perfect after all!!   :0)

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: akenaton
Date: 13 Jul 13 - 09:43 AM

Listen Mr Mather, if you don't want your real name used on an internet forum...don't broadcast it to all and sundry.

Try to remember that if you go around arrogantly insulting others, before long the "worms" will come out of their "compost heaps" and do something that you don't like.
You need to understand that there are some rules of decorum here and that opposing homosexual "marriage" legislation or professing ones religious beliefs, are not recognised as "hate speech"..... if that is even definable.
Just calm down and realise how lucky you are that anyone wishes to converse with such an arrogant and muddled individual.
All will be well, the sun will rise again, the seasons will turn, the tides will ebb and flow.....nature fixes everything in the end.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket curious
Date: 13 Jul 13 - 08:51 AM

So... what is kind and cogent about dismissing comment based on the author not the content? What is kind and cogent about shouting my real name from the rooftops whilst telling porkies, twisting what I write? Whilst being too ashamed of your own stance to put your real name in the open.

You see, the snag is; I can call you a snivelling shit till I'm blue in the face but you seem incapable of recognising your own stupidity. Name calling isn't the answer for you. Pity may be more appropriate.

If Steve is reading, we may have to get someone else to proxy our token woman. Jerk isn't capable of recognising make believe.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Jul 13 - 05:26 AM

AAAAHHHH your tired tactic of trying to turn my kind and cogent observations of you into cheap and tired insults clumsily aimed at me.


You know very well why your mental health professional has you taking lithium and other anti-psychotic drugs but she must be heartbroken that they are not effective and but the fact that yoou are so mentally addled that you cannot tell that she is a she. Your fellow inmates tell me that she looks like a young Dusty Springfield.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket sans Ian
Date: 12 Jul 13 - 05:10 PM

Aye, you thought Haggis was the national dish but battered deep fried chocolate bars beat it. Snapping goal posts goes back many years in an England v Scotland football match. Sorry, I suppose both observations, whilst baiting those of ginger origin, (at it again) Need explanation to our friends over the pond.



Also must learn to spell out in words of less than two syllables when addressing The Rt Rev Jerk. He thinks his outrageous insults to decent people amuse me. Then gets upset when I point out he may be deluded. Buggered if I know how to deal with him. He mentions lithium. Perhaps his brain is registering his need for his dosage to be upped.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Jul 13 - 01:53 PM

He forgets two posts ago where he "invites" me to the conversation.

"Best read that in conjunction with Jerk's running commentary on my prose. "

Then acts as if that post had never occurred.....

"I know I love the finger pressure of my own typing, but is Jerk having a go at me a couple of posts above? We have been discussing South Yorkshire, Bob Dylan and my Dad's bike lately on this thread. No matter what the subject, he has to get a dig in. Then wonders why I laugh at him rather than with him. "

I don't wonder why you laugh at me. You are a crazy person. There is no logic behind what amuses you.

If you can't remember what was said by the last iteration of "musket" you can at least reread the last couple of posts you make on a thread.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Jul 13 - 12:49 PM

"deep fried Mars bar"???? What???? Are you telling me that Scots have a predilection for that? And "snapping goal posts"??? Wha....?

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket sans family tree
Date: 12 Jul 13 - 03:42 AM

It would appear it is Scottish in origin, although you would have to go back a number of generations in my case. I don't get the urge for deep fried Mars Bar or snapping goal posts, although I did eat haggis last night.

It seems to derive from mower, as in grass. A genealogy website said so. I haven't checked it as fact but happy to accept it in the meantime.

Your man Archie Bunker was based on a comedy TV character from London called Alf Garnett. Sadly, that Bernard Manning was the real thing. But if you are interested in accents and dialect, he was Manchester.



I know I love the finger pressure of my own typing, but is Jerk having a go at me a couple of posts above? We have been discussing South Yorkshire, Bob Dylan and my Dad's bike lately on this thread. No matter what the subject, he has to get a dig in. Then wonders why I laugh at him rather than with him.

What makes you think the psychiatrist is a she? Or that lithium would be described? The bible would be very handy. Living a delusion, it would induce a sense of synergy.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Jul 13 - 12:52 AM

This is a serious question: Is "Mather" derived from a word for "Mother" or does it have some other derivation? Just wondering. I'm always curious about the origins of names and words.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket being patriotic
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 03:26 PM

Ok. Keep calm Musket.

Akenaton is Welsh and Bernard Manning was Yorkshire.   For the benefit of our cousins, that bloke (a blue comic) was from Manchester. If you studied the war of the roses, you can see how putting a Lancastrian on your link and talking about Yorksheer.......

For the benefit of accuracy, I come from North Derbyshire near the Yorkshire and Nottinghamshire borders. There are lots of Mathers in Lancashire to be fair, especially around Bolton, but that is easily explained. My Dad had a bike.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 03:24 PM

Its not your prose that it is the problem it is your delusions of omniscience. No matter what the topic, you claim to be an expert. You've done it seen it, got the Phd.

We all can be mighty in our minds. Tell us what mental health facility you are in. We can send you cards, pictures of the outside, whatever you want as long as you can't hurt yourself with it. I guess you wouldn't want a bible. Also, we could write your Dr. a note suggestion that she up the dosage on your lithium.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 03:21 PM

LOL! A sort of Archie Bunker of the Midlands, is he?

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: akenaton
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 01:58 PM

Some
comedy         from Ians neck of the woods!

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket being patriotic
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 01:49 PM

The other year, after a week skiing around Banff we drove to Panorama ski resort which is just outside Invermere. Sounds a lovely place but other than the mountains as a backdrop, a bit of a dump. Grimesthorpe Miners Welfare however is a wonderful bar in which to partake of a glass of Chardonnay of an evening.   

Best read that in conjunction with Jerk's running commentary on my prose.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket curious
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 01:40 PM

Grimsthorpe Colliery Brass Band. Look them up too.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 01:36 PM

Well, the town names do not inspire confidence! ;-) Grimethorpe sounds particularly awful. I should think anyone would be desperate to escape the place.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket procrastinating
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 01:30 PM

I don't know if you watch Top Gear? I noticed it was on the box in Canada when I was over last. They knocked up a couple of racing cars with imaginary advertising on them. Penistone Motors being one. No prizes for guessing what was left when they opened the door. ....

The English folk singer Mike Harding, although from Manchester gets most of his comedy from the area. Download a track from Red Specs album called Wath upon Dearne Blues. It includes an imaginary conversation with a local. .. Wath is just north of Rotherham and I used to enjoy playing at their club many years ago. A band I was in got a festival booking there too. Happy days.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket sanctimonious as a sailor
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 11:38 AM

Of course I don't live there now. Oh deary deary me no.

Being proud of one's roots is all the more forceful if one doesn't have to live in the blessed area anymore.   They aren't burying their dead in Dinnington, they're eating them. Worksop has them propping up bus stops and I occasionally drive through flicking Vs at the peasants.

(Sorry, Bridge would expect nothing less from a dirty rotten stinking capitalist.   Is that better Richard? )

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 11:35 AM

Cool. I might do that.

I took a look on Google maps. There are some extraordinary and rather suggestive names of towns all around there...Cudworth, Grimethorpe, Cumberworth, Wombwell, and last but not least...Penistone!

Unbelievable. How would one tell people one was from Penistone and keep a straight face? Although, I suspect they pronounce it "pennis - stone" to get around that...

Subject: RE: BS: I am not perfect after all
From: GUEST,Musket sans his heritage
Date: 11 Jul 13 - 11:22 AM

My neck of the woods. Draw a noose to take in Barnsley at the top, Sheffield to the west, Rotherham to the east and scrape in Worksop to the south.   The South Yorkshire coal field. I worked down Manton Pit, and served part of my apprenticeship at Orgreave, Manvers and Fence. One has gone all posh over the years but still intimidate those buggers in London with it. It is good for swearing. ... mudcatters from the patch would distinguish between parts of the area and Barnsley, well. Least said soonest mended. ..

On a serious note, go on Amazon to buy any book by Barry Hines, a local playwright andsauthor. The Price of Coal and A Kestrel for a Knave are somewhat autobiographical for many of us.   The latter became an excellent film called Kes.