Healing Threads: Do they work?

Subject: RE: Healing Threads: Do they work?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 07:15 PM

Hey, Spot the Dog, this is Spot a New Member.

Welcome!!

Are you related to my spotted dog Little Ruby Hoobie Doobie?

Anyway welcome to the Mudcat!

~Susan

Subject: RE: Healing Threads: Do they work?
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 07:03 PM

Thanks Spot.....Reminds me of a funny happening in England a few years back...must be the weather there or something. In any case, there was a strike of sorts by the doctors and during the strike the death rate dropped by about 60%. I guess you don't want to die unless your doc is on habd to tell you about it.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Healing Threads: Do they work?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 07:02 PM

I am not a believer in healing energy as such but I think that the fact that a person knows that others are thinking of them and wanting the best for them does some good and certainly a number of people do feel that they have benefited from them.

Perhaps its best not to question what mechanisms are involved but simply to accept that in one way or other some good has been achieved through them.

Jon

Subject: RE: Healing Threads: Do they work?
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 06:57 PM

Some years ago an experiment was undertaken in Britain to pray for a number of people who were undergoing a life threatening surgical procedure. It was a blind test. Some were prayed for and others were not , the orthodox churches did not take part for obvious reasons. The results showed that the people prayed for had generally better recovery's and better survival rates. The sample was too small for the medics to take any notice of and another larger experiment was promised. I don't know if it ever materialised. But love and best wishes can't hurt even if they don't help so why not send them. Please have mine for Karen Catspaw49.

Subject: RE: Healing Threads: Do they work?
From: Allan C.
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 06:53 PM

Yep, I'd say that about covers it.

Subject: RE: Healing Threads: Do they work?
From: Hollowfox
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 06:50 PM

I see no need to try to convince you. However you want to go with the idea is fine by me. Myself, I'd rather have a bunch of personalized postings on a healing thread than have the same number of overpriced, mass-produced get-well cards.

Subject: RE: Healing Threads: Do they work?
From: catspaw49
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 06:34 PM

I see this is your first post......Odd subject for that isn't it? My first suggestion is that if you have any qualms about these threads, ignore them.

Almost two years ago, I wound up LifeFlighted to a hospital with a diassecting aortic aneurism. I was in a coma for five days and in the hospital for another two weeks at which time I went home overnite and returned due to a bleeding tumor in the small bowel, almost impossible to find, and I lost 14 pints of blood.......all in all, a near thing. During that time, many of the people here began the first of these threads and I was prayed over and worried about and sent good thoughts from a dizzying array of religions and belief or non-belief systems. What I did know was that a whole boatload of wonderful people gave a damn whether I lived or died. It is accepted in the medical world that attitude has a lot to do with treatment and if I felt better because I knew of friends that cared, numbering in the hundreds, then I am convinced that the power inherent in those thoughts helped me to still be alive to write this.

Since then, I have sent my own personal good thoughts to many others when things are down for them and I hope they feel as I did that messages of support and caring are an asset in getting through tough times. My wife Karen is currently hospitalized with blood clots in her lungs and the support for her and to her has been amazing and a big asset to her well being. She knows that more than a couple of people care about her and about her family and its made the hospital time much easier and the healing not so worrisome.

You don't believe in it, no problem mate. Don't participate. Convince you? How? Why? It bothers me not a whit what you believe or feel for yourself and its pointless to argue about it.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Healing Threads: Do they work?
From: Banjer
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 06:20 PM

Whether it helps or not, what can it harm? If it does help, more power to it...If one believes in it, let them. Those that don't believe can just ignore it. I for one think that there is some good in it. Maybe just for the reasons already listed, maybe for deeper reasons. Whatever, keep up with the doctor's instructions and get a little extra boost on the side...

Subject: RE: Healing Threads: Do they work?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 06:15 PM

There is, I understand, a lot of research on the effects of prayer. Perhaps some of thise interested in this thread might do some web research and bring some links to add here.

Anecdotal evidence certainly abounds, and I know of things from personal experience and as a clergy spouse. These include that the recipients of prayer can be very aware of prayer and its benefits occurring.

Why were you asking, might I inquire?

~Susan

Subject: RE: Healing Threads: Do they work?
From: mousethief
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 06:12 PM

Or from the Horse's Ass. How is your wife, Spaw?

O..O
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Subject: RE: Healing Threads: Do they work?
From: GUEST,Max Tone, cookieless, thanks to ms software
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 06:09 PM

Let's hear it from the horse's mouth.
How are you, KarenSpaw, and does it help?
Get well soon, Rob

Subject: Does it matter?
From: mousethief
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 06:08 PM

Does it matter? If someone says they are praying for me, or petitioning the Goddess on my behalf, or sending healing energies my way, or thinking me well, or visualizing my health, or even sacrificing chickens on their home altar, it means they care about me and wish me well, and whether or not it "works" is really quite secondary for me. I wouldn't stop taking my meds because of it, but I guarantee I would at least *feel better* knowing people care.

No chickens were harmed in the production of this message.

Alex
O..O
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Subject: RE: Healing Threads: Do they work?
From: MK
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 06:08 PM

Karma is a very powerful thing, and when you couple it with healing and positive energy, the results can be remarkable. It is not a substitute for proper medical treatments, but in conjunction with good medicine, it sure as hell can't hurt. (My $0.02)

Subject: RE: Healing Threads: Do they work?
From: Bert
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 06:05 PM

People also get better by having the right attitude and a positive outlook. The thought that they have friends thinking of them and pulling for them can do a lot to cheer a patient and help speed their recovery.

So whether the energy effect is real or imagined I'll still keep sending good thoughts to anyone who needs them.

As for the 'right medicine' it's my experience that the medicine is often 'not right'.

Subject: RE: Healing Threads: Do they work?
From: annamill
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 06:00 PM

Ya never know, LongJohn! Good thoughts can't hurt. I'm not a religious person, as I've said time and again, but I do think positive thoughts can be powerful. Here's to good karma!

Love, annamill

Subject: Healing Threads: Do they work?
From: GUEST,LongJohn
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 05:56 PM

There have been lots of 'healing threads' and lot of well meaning messages here.

The well meaning messages are doubtlessly useful to the sufferer.

The idea that sending 'healing energy' is perhaps less well documented. For the record, it strikes me as complete rubbish. People get better by taking the right medicine.

If anyone can pursuade me otherwise, I be interested in their thoughts.

LongJohn