BS: donating organs after death

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Scoville
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 05:54 PM

[Former Ely, until I couldn't get my damn cookie to reset and had to change aliases]

BTW, my mother got a kidney two weeks ago from a [living] friend of ours from meeting. It's made a world of difference for her. Her blood chemistries are better than they've been probably in 30 years, even on dialysis, and the transplant seems to have cleared up a huge list of mystery symptoms she had. If that helps change anybody's mind in favor of donation . . .

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 04:36 PM

What is a blood doner - something like a fast-food black pudding?
I think you people mean DONOR! LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Gareth
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 02:20 PM

Contribution Card in my pocket.

Used to be blood doner untill I came into contact with Wiels disease, then "Not unless your group is really needed, and we will tell yer when" - It appears I is rather 'Common'.

Familly have no doubt as to my instructions,

But - in view of my medical problems - Including Diabetes and Angina, wot can be recycled ??

I can see it now.

Doctor - "Mr X - you have a new heart. unfortunatley the donor suffered fron Angina. You have a new pancrease, unfortunately the donor suffers fron Diabetes 2, We've also given you a new set of lungs, unfortunately the donor smokes 40 a day."

Patient - "Pardon ???"

Doctor - " Ah Yes - The donor of your new inner ear suffered from Tintinus"

Joshing aside - Pledge to donate - after all when youve gorn yer wont need the spare parts !

Gareth

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Peace
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 02:01 PM

Doner card in my wallet.

The University of Alberta Medical School can have the rest.

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: MudGuard
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 08:55 AM

minestro wrote:
I'm not sure where my soul resides, so I'm not sure I want to leave any bits of me lingering in someone else.

Is it better if the pieces where the soul might reside in are eaten by maggots and worms or bacteria?

I carry my organ donator document with me in my wallet - and my relatives are informed about my wishes.

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 08:34 AM

In my own state (of residence) they usually remember to ask when you get a new drivers license whether you want them to check the box that says you wish to donate your parts and pieces. Unfortunately, it has been held that this does not constitute a "binding" certification, unless signed and witnessed appropriately. Since they laminate the license before you get it, it's impossible to fill in the blanks that are there, so as a practical matter, the driver's license endorsement can never be a "completed instruction."

The result is that you can only consider the endorsement on your license as a "suggestion that they look for" a valid and enforceable declaration in some other form, usually in a will or, as mentioned above, an "Advance Directive," properly prepared. A will is NOT generally a good place to put such instructions, since it may be "sealed pending probate," or otherwise tied up, and not available when the instructions are needed.

Few people actually get around to preparing, and making known, the necessary "real permissions."

A fairly high percentage of people here have had the donor box checked on their driver's licenses, and happily believe that their leftover parts will be put to use. Sadly, in the great majority of cases, they will not be. The cases in which donor organs are actually used come mainly from permission given by a surviving spouse or parent, either of which is usually "presumed" to be able to speak for a deceased person "in the absence of documented intent of the deceased."

John

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 05:41 AM

Seems wrong though that, even if you carry a donor card and check all the boxes on various forms and tell uncle Tom Cobbleigh and all that you want to donate your organs, your surviving relatives can veto it! It's bog-all to do with anyone else and your wishes should be honoured.

IMHO
Johnny :0)

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: darkriver
Date: 24 Apr 04 - 04:51 AM

In many of the United States, there is something called the Advance Directive, which is a legal statement that you (1) do or (2) don't want to have "heroic measures" used to keep you alive when you're in a coma or otherwise unable to advocate for yourself.

These forms also include wishes for post-death disposition of your body. It makes it easier for your survivors/loved ones to know what your wishes are, and gives them legal clout to make sure that hospitals, etc., follow your wishes. You give copies to your doctor, your spouse, etc.

These forms might be a more clear way of expressing your donor wishes than those drivers license donor cards.

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 01:41 PM

Anyway, don't jewish people believe in circumcision?
so how can they be buried intact?

is this true, or just some rumour you heard?

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Jim McCallan
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 02:06 AM

I have a Hammond organ which you can have NOW!!

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Jim McCallan
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 02:04 AM

They have my full authority to take whatever is useable, and to disregard the rest. If I can only ever do one good deed in my life, I could think of no better one to do.

I have some concerns about the overall concept, though. In that I'm not in favour of the removal of organs without the prospective donors' prior approval. Dignity is important at death, and the recent Alder Hey case in England has given a few of the ethical concerns a bit of debating room, over the last few years.

Pretty soon now, organs will probably become more and more cloned, as that science moves further.
But that's a whole other day's talking.

Jim

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 01:51 AM

So who wants to donate their pipe organ to me?

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 23 Apr 04 - 12:05 AM

I reckon Clinton is right about this, [any religon that says you can't save a life must be a load of bollocks].

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Mudlark
Date: 10 Oct 03 - 12:49 AM

I've been a donor for years, ever since a good friend gained many years from a cadaver kidney transplant. As i get older, probably less and less can be used, but it does sort of beg the question...what to do with the bits that are left. My choice is cremation, so it matters little the volume of the cremrems, but what about those that chose an open casket????

I just gave blood for my own upcoming hip operation, and was appalled to learn that if I dont need it (which PG I wont) it will be trashed. Apparently because it's one's own blood, it doesnt go thru the rigorous testing of "donated" blood, which now includes SAR and West Nile Virus screening. I'm not allowed to donate because of lupus.

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: LadyJean
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 11:35 PM

Something over a hundred years ago, my great uncle John, who was studying medicine at Johns Hopkins sent a cadaver home. He wanted it for a skeleton. (He became a very fine orthopedic surgeon.) But it didn't occur to him to tell his mother. Boy did she get a surprise when she opened the barrell!
This has nothing to do with the thread, but I thought people could do with a laugh.

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: GUEST,Ely, deprived of cookie
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 07:28 PM

Just make sure your next-of-kin knows that that is what you want, because even if you have a donor card or it says on your license you're a donor, if your next-of-kin balks, it can be an obstacle.

Personally, they can have anything they want of me when I'm done with it. My mom needs kidneys and she won't take one from me, so it will have to come from someone else. I'd have to be a pretty big butthead to want someone else's kidneys for her but not be willing to leave mine to the next on the list.

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 06:34 PM

"There are religious reasons not to donate organs"

And they are so abhorrent that they should be outlawed!

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Bev and Jerry
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 06:10 PM

Here is John Prine's opinion on the matter.

Bev and Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Bev and Jerry
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 06:08 PM

There are religious reasons not to donate organs. For example, one cannot be buried in a Jewish cemetery unless the body is totally in tact.

Bev and Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 05:52 PM

I donated seven (7) US gallons (or 26.4979 liters) of blood in South Bend, Indiana, and since I've been here in Idaho I'm out a liter.

When I left South Bend I asked for my blood back, but they just laughed.

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 04:10 PM

I would Mortee, but they won't let me.:-)M'blood's too rich!**bg**

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: open mike
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 03:28 PM

and blood donation is pooible in several different ways:
whole blood,
platelets,
and marrow

.blood source

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Morticia
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 01:09 PM

While we're on the subject ( and yes, John, I do carry a donor card and my friends and family all know how I feel about this which is more important because their permission will be asked whether you carry a card or not)....who gives blood regularly?

On two occasions in my life I wouldn't be here now if it weren't for some dear soul who took the time and trouble to donate. If you can but you don't, think about it, please?

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 12:49 PM

I, too, have been signed up for years, as has Rog and our kids. The only thing I want to be sure of is if my niece or sisters need my eyes, they get first crack at them. For that matter my niece could have first crack at anything else, too; well, so could the rest of my family.:-)

Thanks, John, this is a good reminder.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From:
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 12:27 PM

Im on the donor list however I don't know what will be of any use but when I dead....and ONLY when I am dead they can have my bits....

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: GUEST,minestro
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 10:40 AM

Well I don't fancy it. I'm not sure where my sould resides, so I'm not sure I want to leave any bits of me lingering in someone else. Not a popular opinion I know, but I am entitled to it.

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 10:00 AM

Yup, they can have anything of mine that'll help - except my wallet which won't (apart from holding the donor card)

Here in the UK we've just had to fill in our annual(?) electoral registration document (who lives in our house that is eligible for the vote) and included with it was a permission form in hopes to get a better take up than just picking up a card and carrying it.

We've only the last few years gone on to card/photo style driving licences.Any UK folks with one know if the donor side is part of the new design?

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Grab
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 09:01 AM

I don't. However my wife and I are agreed that anything left will be broken up for parts (if both of us die, my parents are similarly minded as well).

Graham.

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: mack/misophist
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 01:47 AM

Me too. However I read recently that the demand for cadavers for med schools is way down because of new teaching methods. I should check on the status of my donation.

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: open mike
Date: 09 Oct 03 - 12:28 AM

aS FAR AS i KNOW, driver license are usually for
organ donations only, for the whole enchilada
you may need to sign up ahead of time (and who
knows when THE TIME will be??!! with your closest
medical college or university. In Nebraska, where
I dealth with this when my parents left their bodies
behind, the agency was the Anatomical Board, and
there were restrictions as to how far away from
their facility they were able to transport you.
You need to have a witnesses form on file with
them. The way it worked with us was that their
ashes were returned nearly a year after thier
passing. In the area i live in now, the closest
medical studies are nealry 100 miles away. I
have checked into the proceedure, and it is
different. A most generous gift, and the medical
students really appreciate it, and I am not sure
if they want you to give any parts away before they
do their studies in the anatomy lab, cuz they want
to see how it all fits together...
body donation @ u.c. davis

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Oct 03 - 11:50 PM

Good news, indeed, Bill D; I've enjoyed a few posts from Rita. I just this evening I was just pondering what to do with a couple of extra donor permission cards I picked up at the driver's licence office last time I was in. (I'm cleaning my home office--a serious undertaking since everything is a treasure!) I'll take the cards to work and leave them for others to use. My license has said "donor" for a long time now. (And some things, like bone marrow, you can share while you're still here!)

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: LadyJean
Date: 08 Oct 03 - 11:42 PM

On December 20, 1997, after a long struggle, I finally got my first driver's license. (I was considerably more than 16.) I was so happy when I passed the test, I would have given the examiner a kidney right then and there, if he had asked. So, of course, I checked the organ donor option on the license!

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Oct 03 - 11:28 PM

My wife, the wonderful Ferrara, (Rita) got a new heart and is healthy today because someone made the decison 7 years ago. Barry Finn got a liver....it is a good thing to share what you no longer need with others. Thank you, JOhn...

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Amergin
Date: 08 Oct 03 - 11:09 PM

yeah im a donor....if im dead what good will it do me?

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Oct 03 - 09:55 PM

Folks can use any part of me that's still usable after I'm done with it -- but not before! Well, maybe under exceptional circumstances....

But heck, I doubt that there'll be much left, 'cause I intend to wear it all out first.

(Yes, I'm a donor and have been for years.)

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Sorcha
Date: 08 Oct 03 - 09:42 PM

I agree, Clinton. If any of my 'stuff' is still useable, they are welcom to it. I am signed up for this in the US. My heart and lungs are probably shot to hell, but maybe my skin and corneas will be of use to somebody.

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 08 Oct 03 - 09:05 PM

It should be manditory...

Subject: RE: BS: donating organs after death
From: Joybell
Date: 08 Oct 03 - 08:53 PM

My Dear-one and I are arranging to have our bodies taken away by a medical school. Any usable bits will be made available as donations first. My True-love rather favoured letting the students play practical jokes with bits of him but they expect you to be serious about the whole thing and won't use your body at all if you say things like that.
I like these light-hearted threads jOhn. Is your brain going somewhere useful like to another Mudcatter so that it can still carry on where you leave off?

Subject: BS: donating organs after death
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 08 Oct 03 - 08:43 PM

Do you carry a organ doner card, if not why not?
I carry a doner card, and i am registered on the NHS Donatioin register.
As far as i am concerned, if i am dead, and my heart, or any other bits can help somebody live, then thats good.
I cant understand anyone that objects to tjis, if anyone does, please explain why.
anyway, i think they should be allowed to take waht they want without asking.