Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: David Ingerson
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 12:27 PM

Thanks, Barbara. I had no idea who had written that song. Someone sang it at the closing circle of our first Singtime and I've made sure we've sung it every time since then. But I'd never seen the words and just treated it like a zipper song, making up my own, like "thinking freely" and "work for peace and justice."

It's a great song. Thanks, Pat, for an inspiring and highly singable chorus song!

David

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: MAG
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 10:24 AM

That's the one! Thank you Barbara, thank you David, Thank you thank you, one and all. -- MA

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Barbara
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 01:27 AM

MAG, you can find Pat Humphries' song,
Never Turning Backhere in the DT.
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Genie
Date: 26 Mar 03 - 01:03 AM

Really, Mark, please do come on over to the mainland for next year's Singtime. (And/or if you come to Rainy Camp, you and Jean Smith can exchange Hawaiian songs.)

By next year I hope I can find a way to clone myself -- or at least do without sleep entirely --, so I can either be in two or three places at once or at least spend all night going from one jam to another.

I was having such a good time jamming with the 'metal' folks (banjos, mandos, guitars, etc.) in Hope Cabin Sat. night that I missed the after-concert song circle(s) in the main lodge. So much good music, so many good folks, so little time!

Genie

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 10:56 PM

Awwww.....well, I knew it was going to be great, and I'm glad it was. I'm sorry I wasn't there, but thanks to this thread I almost feel like I was! (Well, maybe not quite....) I'll try very hard to make it next year.

Aloha,
Mark

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: sharyn
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 09:17 PM

Yep, it was fun. Good late night singing. Pleasant, kind people. Good food. Frank of Toledo gets my vote for most fun person to jam with -- has great taste in songs.

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Barbara
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 06:44 PM

I think she either means Keep On Moving Forward, or Roll the Old Chariot Along.
The first is Pat Humphries, isn't it? And I'll bet Roll the Old is in DT. Or maybe she means Here is My Home, which should also be here someplace. It's by Si Kahn.
It was a lovely weekend, and we need a Mary Garvey CD. She writes so many wonderful songs, and then they just vanish. I followed her around with a tape recorder all weekend and heard maybe 10, 12 gems and no repeats on ones I'd heard before.
Tell us which one, and we'll find it for you. Wonderful to see you all.
Sorry to flake out on the Mudcat workshop, but when I stay up nights till 3, I have to nap in the daytime. Yawn. I'm still catching up. David, I really love Cunnhla (or however you spell it). Thanks for the dual language version.
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: MAG
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 06:30 PM

Yep, that one. and the song I sang was by Judy B. Goodenough. I lovethat song, which is why I once enquired about the author here (on Mudcat). I learned it from Fred Holstein in Chicago. -- MA

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: David Ingerson
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 04:14 PM

Thanks, Steve, but I must admit that part of the motivation is self-interest. I love being surrounded by singing, and the better the singing, the better the feeling.

Glad you joined us MAG. Your song in the closing circle was great and you have a . . roomy voice (if that makes sense). I enjoyed it. But I don't know which song you mean. Keep on Moving Forward?

David

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: mg
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 03:21 PM

it was truly exceptional...one thing I liked was singing in the dining room after the concert..we were much closer, as someone else pointed out..didn't have the horrible lights...had a table to prop ourselves on as the night wore on...the amount of light is inversely proportional to the wonderfulness of the music, at least after 10 p.m....time to switch to candles, firelight, lamps etc. That is something that really bugs me about some camps...especially sitting under flourescent lights. People who need light to read music can bring flashlights, or there could be a strong lamp that they could sit under/move to etc...

Songs that are running through my head: Going down the road where the sundowners come...freedom is coming...home sweet home is a river...thank heavens they are all pretty songs because they are just taking turns for days now...

P.S. Steve M...do you know about Private Messages (PM). I sent you a couple..just click on top of page...could you send me your email address? [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: GUEST,MAG at work
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 11:54 AM

That was me, Genie. I can't imagine why my home conputer listed me as a guest. Have I lost my cookie again?? I'll find out tonight. -- MA

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Genie
Date: 25 Mar 03 - 01:53 AM

Guest, you are, of course, completely right about Frank and Nancy (Francy). But, since I apparently was singing with you at least part of the time this weekend, I'm dying to know which one you were!

Are you being deliberately mysterious, or did you just forget to post your name?

Genie

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Mar 03 - 10:39 PM

I can't believe this event has going on within driving distance since I moved out West here (13 years) and I only just discovered it. Thank you, thank you, David, for bringing it to our attention.

By the by, could you post the words to that great call and response activist thing you did at the end ...

I HATE long goodbyes; lots of angst for no good reason, but a solid half hour of good goobye SONGS ... something else. and that was AFTER the peace songs.

Frank, you are a trip and a half. Folks, if you have a chance to party with Frank from Toledo and his sweet, gentle and steel backboned wife Nancy, do. Run. Crawl.

I lasted until 2:00 Friday and Saturday night, and just made it home this afternoon. I pulled off the road in Tri-Cities last night; I didn't belong behind a wheel anymore.

Thanks, thanks, thanks.

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Steve Mullinax
Date: 24 Mar 03 - 07:04 PM

David,

You deserve kudos for initiating and nurturing this thread!

We got some participants we might not have gotten otherwise, adding fun and diversity to the experience, and introducing new folks to our circle. Bonnie & I are meeting with Phil and Linda this afternoon to do a debrief & evaluation. The participation of the mudcatters is a high point in my mind, and we should surely do it again in 2004.

Thanks for your efforts!

Steve

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: David Ingerson
Date: 24 Mar 03 - 06:35 PM

I've been at every Singtime Frolics--19 of them--and this was, IMHO, the very best! It rained most of the time, forcing everyone (about 110 of us) indoors, so the workshops and jams were well populated, the energy was high, and rehersing for the concert was happening here and there all over the camp by late Saturday afternoon. The level of musicianship, the average expertise level was higher than ever before, I think, so there were fewer songs stumbled through and lots of preparation evident. (And I appreciate that partly because the experience of listening is more enjoyable but also because it means people are singing at other times in their lives and making a committment to singing better.)

Sorry we can't share any wild tales (or tails) like the folks who went to the Northern Ireland gathering. We pretty much confined ourselves to the camp (and there was no alcohol). But what energy! I have always prided myself on being able to stay up to all hours for the sake of singing together, and although I helped close things down a little after 3:30 Friday night, I couldn't last past 3:00 on Saturday, and there was more than 2 hours of singing after that! At recent Singtimes we've been lucky to keep singing going until 2:00, but at 2:00 Saturday evening, there were 3 groups (!) still going strong!

The Saturday evening concert was the best (and the longest) with about 40 groups or individuals performing one song each. I think we're attracting better musicians and many of us are practicing more and just plain getting better. What a joy to hear and to sing along with. A handful of the younger kids participated in the concert. The handful of teenagers decided not to perform but it was great seeing them at their parents' folk singing camp.

That high energy continued all the way through to the end with more people staying for the final sing than ever before. How wonderful to sing one inspirational song after another, one farewell song after another in a large circle of beautiful people with all our voices resonating together.

The hugging barometer was also very high--lots of hugs and high quality ones, too!

Mary G, you were so right about Sharyn--what a treasure house of knowledge and songs and what a pleasure to listen to! Glad you came, Sharyn.

That inspiring weekend with relaxed, caring, singing people gave me the strength to face this crazy world again today. Thanks to everyone who was there. What a fantastic time!

Hey! Welcome, Steve! Now you'll have something to do with all your free time since you're retired. ;-)

David

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Francy
Date: 24 Mar 03 - 05:17 PM

It was a wonderful weekend with friends and Mudcatters. Lots and lots and lots of great music....workshops ( I actually did a workshop)...song circles....great jam sessions, practically around the clock.....and a concert with all the singers doing a song.....coullldn't have been any better than it was....A big hurrah for the Portland Folklore Society....a fabulous job......Thanks to linda...Meryll and mudcatter David Ingerson.......
          Frank of Toledo

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Lane
Date: 24 Mar 03 - 01:57 PM

Sounds like I missed a good time... maybe next year. Hey, since most of you are in the general area - As I've posted in another thread, I'm trying to put together a small house concert with Korby Lenker www.korbylenker.com   He does some nice music - this is a short notice deal - Sunday, April 6, probably late afternoon and I'm a few minutes west of Longview... I need some folks to show up if I'm going to do this... anyone interested?

Lane

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Genie
Date: 24 Mar 03 - 01:08 PM

Hey, Steve, welcome to Mudcat! Yer gonna luv it!

Meryle Korn recruited me to help you and Mary W. put together next year's singtime, so I'll be working with you.

See ya at the PFS song circles.

Genie (Jeanene)

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Steve Mullinax
Date: 24 Mar 03 - 01:26 AM

I second Genie's post: this was a great event!

I am new to Mudcat. This is my first post.

Thanks to any mudcatters who persisted through the trials of getting a form, arranging travel, etc. It was great that some of you were able to come from a long way off. I enjoyed meeting you and sharing your music! As always, it was a pleasure to join in song with those of you I already knew!

I will be working on organizing the event for next year. Since I saw some of the issues getting people on-board from all the previous posts, I will try to make that process easier next time.

Anybody else who wants to volunteer for next year, please let me know.

Best,
Steve

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Genie
Date: 24 Mar 03 - 12:08 AM

Wow! What a great Singtime Frolics!

At least 11 Mudcatters were there, and I think we recruited a few more. (I made all 4 CDs available for demo and we gave folks the info about what Mudcat is and how to join, order CDs, etc. (Prob'ly never know if anyone bought CDs because of this sort of promo, but it "kent hoyt."

David Ingerson sponsored a mimi Mudcat gathering at the Frolics, and we shared songs, etc.   Re other Mudcatters: I already knew David I., Mag, Mary Garvey, WinnieMih, SandyBob, Barbara (Millikan), and Robinia (Jean), and it was great to hook up with these folks again (even though some live in my 'back yard'). In addition, I re-met Sharyn (with whom I had participated in a John Bartlett Child Ballads worshop at NW Folklife last year) and finally met Frank and Nancy (Jones) of Toledo.

Mary G., Sharyn, Robinia (Jean L.), and Frank were among those with the most 'die-hard-i-tude, who stayed up till about 5A pickin', playin', an grinnin' on Friday and/or Sat. night. (Mary, I gotta hear more of your songs; Jinx Davis says they're wonderful.)

We got some really good music going among us Mudcatters. A special 'find' for me was "Francy" -- Frank and Nancy Jones of Toledo, OR. They do a really special rendition of "Blue Wing," and Frank kept the jam sessions alive till the wee hours. He and I teamed up to do Hank Williams's "Cold Cold Heart" for the concert Sat. night. He's a great duo partner, with that great pickin' and smooth harmonies.

Whadda the rest of you Mudcatters think?

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Genie
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 02:52 AM

As of Friday, Linda J. told me that there were 3 spaces left, and my registration took one of them. However, sometimes people cancel in the days right before the Camp, so if anyone is still interested, you should go ahead and send in your registration. If there are no spaces, your check will be returned uncashed.

Last year I didn't register until I got to the camp on Friday night.

Genie

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: mg
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 01:49 AM

I heard on the radio last night that there was a mudslide around Florence on 101. It didn't sound like the road would be open for a while. I don't get reliable radio here..except for a Salt Lake City station..so people might want to keep updated on this if they are driving that way.

Any spaces left? Someone was asking.

Mudjack..changed your mind?

mg

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: mg
Date: 15 Mar 03 - 06:42 PM

Will everyone who is mechanically inclined and doesn't hate accordians bring their expertise and any little tiny screwdrivers they have with them please..I have to melt some beeswax and fix some keys on mine. Not that I actually know how to do it so I will accept any consultations.

mg

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Francy
Date: 15 Mar 03 - 12:50 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 09:08 PM

would love to go....but can't...I have a month long holiday in april-may..some one coming from overseas....gotta show her around...

nathan

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Francy
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 09:00 PM

Looking forward to singing with everyone....Frank & Nancy of Toledo

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: David Ingerson
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 07:59 PM

Refresh

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: David Ingerson
Date: 13 Mar 03 - 05:55 PM

Good idea, Mary. I'll keep my eyes and ears open. It sounds like you've figured out a way to get down and back. I hope so. It would be great to see you again and sing some songs into the wee hours!

David

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: mg
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 08:37 PM

Speaking of mudslides..there was one cutting off 101 south of Astoria and I think more are predicted this week...Mudslide season..can people keep us posted if they hear of any on routes we might be taking?

mg

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: David Ingerson
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 08:18 PM

Hey, Genie, you beat me to it! Thanks for reviving this thread. And yes, one of the informal "workshops" at Singtime this year will be a Mudcat gathering.

It'll be interesting to sing with other 'catters in person, so come and join us if you haven't signed up already. And if you have, it'll be great to see you and sing with you!

David

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Genie
Date: 12 Mar 03 - 06:55 PM

Let me know if you still haven't received directions, etc., Sharon. Between David I. and me, we'll get you there.

Folks, there are still a few places left for the Frolics, and David says he's planning a Mudcat get-together there. So come on and join us!

Genie

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: sharyn
Date: 06 Mar 03 - 12:13 AM

It won't be long now. I can't wait to meet some of you -- and to see some old friends. But I never got any info other than a one-line email saying my reg was confirmed -- no map, no directions, no time schedule (like when to arrive) -- what's up with that?

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: mg
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 02:13 AM

OK....everyone getting ready? Let's see a show of hands. It is a really pretty location...very woodsy...with lots of trilliums blooming last year...I am going to follow Dick Holdstock's retirement advice if I ever get to retire..just go from camp to camp...we need one though in late April/early May. About the only time of year that doesn't seem to be taken..of course because of Folklife the end of May. But the weather is often so beautiful.

Everyone who doesn't have a camp to go to, just start one. Check out insurance first and foremost. You can probably do it for around $60 a person per weekend with reasonably good food if the lodging isn't too bad. There are plenty up and running and people would be glad to share details on how to do them so you don't have to start from scratch.

The ones in the northwest are fairly consistent: friday night potluck and group sing, saturday workshops, evening concert (which always runs on too long for my taste); sometimes a contra dance, then more singing; sunday workshops etc. Some take turns cooking but the preference now is to hire a cook. Saves a lot of problems. Always have food available 24 hours a day..simple things..peanut butter and bread, granola, chips and salsa, popcorn, milk, fruit, maybe a crockpot full of soup. It's easiest if it is the first year to not commit to the camp without some guaranteed enrollments. Give scholarships out for the yuckiest chores..bathrooms, final cleanup etc.

Well, that is all for now. mg

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: mg
Date: 05 Feb 03 - 02:46 AM

I'm really not that close. But maybe some folks from around here will go...I actually didn't plan to move here..just happened but it is not the best place to be without a car and till I get more bills paid off (was doing well and am going to be hit with some bad dental bills) there is no way.. mg

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Genie
Date: 05 Feb 03 - 02:35 AM

PM Amergin, Mary. Maybe he can make it and bring you with him. - Genie

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: mg
Date: 02 Feb 03 - 03:44 AM

thanks...I can into Portland via Kelso but it might not be early enough..boy am I stranded here on the sand spit. Seattle is fairly easy but Portland really really hard.

mg

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Genie
Date: 02 Feb 03 - 01:29 AM

Mary, it wouldn't hurt to contact Linda re the transportation thing. There may be someone matching potential riders with potential rides.

If you could get to Portland, you could ride to and from Camp Adams with me.

Genie

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: GUEST,David Ingerson at home
Date: 01 Feb 03 - 03:34 PM

Sorry to be asleep at the wheel, Mary, and anyone else who needs this information. The registration fee is $63 for adults to be sent to Portland Folklore society, Singtime Registrar, P.O. Box 1448, Portland, Oregon 97202-1448. Genie, above, has the correct phone number to call for additional info.

Glad to see you and yours will be there Frank.

I wish I could offer some solution to your transportation problem, Mary. I hope something works out. It would be great to see you.

David

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Genie
Date: 24 Jan 03 - 11:06 PM

I can't get through to the website on Netscape, but IIRC I paid $60 for the Frolics last year.

MARCH 21-23, 2003,
FRIDAY-SUNDAY Ð 19th Annual Springtime Frolics,
camp Adams (near Mollala, 45 minutes SE of Portland).Ê

Guest artist: Richard Scholtz.Ê

Scheduled and informal workshops, song circles, jams and a Saturday night concert.Ê

Info: Linda at 503-590-7445, or email [e-mail].
Ê

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: mg
Date: 24 Jan 03 - 10:40 PM

I can't do Adobe on my computer...can you say how much it is and where to send a check?   And anyone coming from Seattle..could I maybe meet you in Kelso????   Oh @@@@@...how would I get back? I always can get back as far as Astoria and then I get stuck. Well, I will work on that later.   mg

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Francy
Date: 24 Jan 03 - 06:34 PM

Nancy and Casey and I will be there...........Can't wait   Frank of Toledo

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Genie
Date: 24 Jan 03 - 03:24 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Genie
Date: 09 Jan 03 - 02:12 AM

And don't forget Camp Runamuck in July and August! A smaller but memorable Mudcat gathering in central Washington. PM JenEllen for details.

Genie

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: mg
Date: 09 Jan 03 - 01:46 AM

Oh but there is another B.C. one in June or early July, and there is one at Duncan on Vancouver Island on Labor Day???? and then there are some in Corvallis or Eugene or somewhere in Oregon..Spokane has something..better use up those frequent flyers.

mg

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: sharyn
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 11:23 PM

Mary, thanks for the compliment. David, an application is on the way already via snail mail (and I'm going to be out of town anyway for a week starting on Sunday)and between you and Genie rides are covered -- thanks. Mary, Rainycamp and Singtime Frolics were a bit too close this year, but all it takes is planning -- I'm hoping to be able to come to both next year, as well as "Sasamat" in its new location and Camp Harmony.

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Lane
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 11:10 PM

David,
Thanks for the welcome words.. I'll follow this thread and see if I can make this ... sounds like fun.

Meantime... do folks get together informally in the area - small groups on a weekend, etc? I'd like to meet a few catters and would be more than happy to host a gathering here at my place on the big river...

Lane

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 11:03 PM

Mary, if there's anything going on in Bellingham, Flip Breskin would know about it. See the bottom of this page for how to get in touch with her.

Aloha,
Mark
(who will be there in spirit)

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: mg
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 10:06 PM

David...Sharyn is a magnificent singer..not to worry..

I just wish it wasn't so close to Rainycamp..that was not my doing by the way in case anyone is keeping tabs...more of a committee decision. I think it keeps cross-pollination down by a bit with them so close together. But I will be lucky enough to make both of them this year...

I've always sort of wondered why Bellingham didn't have something..there are so many great singers there...Late April/Early May would be nice...of course then Folklife is coming up but something always is.

mg

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: David Ingerson
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 08:40 PM

Oops! Mark, that didn't come out right. It would be a lot greater if you were there, of course.

David

Subject: RE: Singtime Frolics in NW Oregon
From: David Ingerson
Date: 08 Jan 03 - 08:28 PM

I finally got time to get myself back online. It's exciting to see the interest rising!

Lane, almost all of us are very welcoming folks. I'm sure you'll feel accepted. I'm also thinking of setting up an informal Mudcat workshop sometime during the weekend so you'll be able to meet other 'catters.

Sharyn, Don't worry about the quality of your singing. We've got all kinds here and if you've got a good heart, you're one of us. Some of us care for quality more than others but I think most of us are happy just making a joyful noise together. I'll take responsibility for getting you a ride from one of the MAX stations. We can PM each other about that. Speaking of which, is it possible to PM attachments? I'll try to PM you the application (a .pdf) tomorrow.

I spoke with our webmaster and he's working on fixing the site so Netscape users can see it.

Winnie, welcome back!

Mark, darn it. Sorry you won't be able to make it.

This is going to be great!

David