Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: katlaughing Date: 20 Feb 07 - 10:11 PM Mudcatter "wilbyhilllbilly" does that kind of thing. He did a nice job on my dad's Cow Songs tape. Whatever the program is that Art Thieme has does a tremendous job, too. He did some more magic for me on dad's tape and I was amazed. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: Barbara Shaw Date: 20 Feb 07 - 09:55 PM But wait a minute. If you could get those recordings onto the computer, it would be fairly easy to then run them through some very basic editing to remove some of the noise and hiss from the recordings. The big warts would remain intact, but the sound would be clearer. I've never tried getting cassette or vinyl onto a computer and don't know enough about sound engineering to do this for you or I would. However, if you could get a song onto the computer with some local help and then email it to me, I could try playing with it to see if I could improve the sound quality with the software I have. Not promising much. Others here know more about it than I do. Can anyone near you help you with this kind of thing? Maybe one of those sound guys near you could take just one song, improve it for you and give you something to help you make your decision. You could pay for just one and then decide if the investment is worth it for all of them. I personally think your stuff is worth getting remastered, although I agree that we all would love it any way you get it down. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: kendall Date: 20 Feb 07 - 08:36 PM Ok, I'm almost convinced. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: katlaughing Date: 20 Feb 07 - 07:25 PM I agree with you, Jeri, about not caring about "pretty" and about the warts.:-)"Pure" comes to mind as well as "unadulterated." |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: Jeri Date: 20 Feb 07 - 06:52 PM There ARE geniuses around. Nic Jones last few CDs were made, in part, from homemade recordings, although I think a bunch of the songs were straight from the boards. One of my favorite cuts of Nic Jones is when he's singing a really [unsolicited critical comment censored] song about going in a field to lie down, which is pretty [unsolicited critical comment censored], but he breaks a string part way through. It makes this horrible THWANG, and there's a bit of a murmer. He then continues to sing a capella, but he slows it down and the song get's stronger for it. It's still a bloody [unsolicited critical comment censored] song, but I love this moment. You can't engineer stuff like that. Listen, I don't buy folks recordings because they're slick and pretty. I LIKE listening to the sort of recording Paul Mills does, and it sure makes folkies more successful commercially, BUT... If your recordings, 'oopsies' and all, show your warmth and humor and professionalism and the interplay with your audience, I DON'T GIVE A RAT'S ASS ABOUT 'PRETTY'. People spend piles of money trying to get recordings to capture that 'live' feeling. Find a genius, and when the genius thinks the recordings are acceptable, set them free. ...and I want one! If the Bob had basement tapes, maybe you could have cellar tapes? I don't like warts that much, so maybe 'lumps and all'. Maybe 'rustic' or 'American primative'. Maybe you and Jacqui could do a John and Yoko style cover. Or not. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: katlaughing Date: 20 Feb 07 - 06:31 PM When all we had of my brother's music to sell on CD was from old master cassettes, we called them "vintage one-of-a-kind" and no one complained. It's the real-deal, down in the dirt kinda thing and people will love it from you! |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: Becca72 Date: 20 Feb 07 - 06:20 PM I would think a little blurb in the liner notes about the situation surrounding the recordings and reasons for the CD would be sufficient...of course anything less than perfection will bother you but I think there are enough other people who have spoken up here who would gladly take this CD "warts and all" |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: kendall Date: 20 Feb 07 - 04:00 PM I have access to some very good sound men, that's not the problem. The problem is they are so rough that it would take a genius to make them acceptable to me. For instance, cassette tapes are not very good in the fidelity department, and video cameras are worse. They tend to be muddy. My buddy, Gordon has suggested a guy in Camden, and I'm sure Sandy would be glad to make some suggestions. The problem there is, he is busy makeing a living. I'm very tempted to just cherry pick a dozen or so of the less awful ones and let the chips fall where they may. Field recordings are supposed to be crude, right? |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: JedMarum Date: 20 Feb 07 - 03:21 PM Let me contact the studio I am thinking of, first. See what the engineer says about cost, times etc for such projects - then we'll see. I did some work there last weekend. I was really impressed with the engineer who runs the studio. And we talked a bit a few similar projects he's worked ... that's why I thought of him. In the meantime, I'll a PM to Kendall ... |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: jacqui.c Date: 20 Feb 07 - 03:12 PM There were some songs on a CD of fiekd recording made in about 2001. The other stuff comes from tape recordings made at various concerts that Kendall did over the years. He actually has some fairly good stuff, stories and songs, on video, but whether it is possible to lift the sound only I don't know. I think Kendall has a tape of the stuff he has put together Jed - if you let him have your address I would think he could send it to you. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: JedMarum Date: 20 Feb 07 - 03:01 PM jacqui.c - I need to know a bit more about the recordings. What the format? What's the quality level of recording ... etc ... |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: jacqui.c Date: 20 Feb 07 - 07:18 AM Keep it going kids - maybe we'll get through to the auld bugger yet! Jed - let us know what you find out please. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: maeve Date: 20 Feb 07 - 07:09 AM I haven't bought a cd in months, Kendall, but I would buy both "Warts" and a newly recorded cd from you. I'd also volunteer to help with the project if there is any way I can be helpful. "Your move." |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: TRUBRIT Date: 20 Feb 07 - 12:58 AM I would cheerfully buy a Kendall 'Caveat Emptor' OR 'Warts and all...' - would be a pleasure!!!!! No excuses for not attending Saturday .... .I will pick you up if need be.... |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: KT Date: 20 Feb 07 - 12:30 AM GREAT! Then you would have then and now versions......I, for one would be happy to buy the THEN version now, and be thrilled to buy the NOW version when it's available!! In the meantime, there are lots of field recordings that you might not re-record, so they'd be perfect for the first CD. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: kendall Date: 19 Feb 07 - 10:16 PM I'm working with a new speech pathologist/therapist, and she says my voice is still in there, but it needs work to come out. It's a long complex problem, but she thinks in a couple of months I shoulld have some kind of voice. That being said, it would be just my luck to put out this substandard thing, then later be able to do them right, and and .... I still think "Warts & ALL" would be a good name. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: Tinker Date: 19 Feb 07 - 08:36 PM Kendall, there is not a one of us who could come close to your critical ear when it comes to this. BUT if you let your pride stand in the way of our getting to enjoy the material that's available... well we may all have to start shopping. After all Jacqui and Mary have been giving us lessons .... it could be really fun. You could have toys in the cellar (singing ones) ... or we could all just enjoy the CD Just Do It |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: Alba Date: 19 Feb 07 - 08:23 PM Absolutely and completely worth doing Kendall...YES PLEASE says 'I'. Sincerly and with Love, Jude |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: GUEST,Jed sans cookie Date: 19 Feb 07 - 06:22 PM Kendall - I know some very good oflks, who have experience at these things. I can find out, if you like. I don;t know about cost ... |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: Becca72 Date: 19 Feb 07 - 05:39 PM Consider this a "Yes" vote from your youngest who would really like those memories preserved somehow.... |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: katlaughing Date: 19 Feb 07 - 04:48 PM I totally agree. Do it, Kendall....we will love you even more for it.:-) kat |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: Big Mick Date: 18 Feb 07 - 08:15 AM Skipper, Mick here. Do it. Love to you and the wee, wild woman. Dog too. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: kendall Date: 18 Feb 07 - 07:51 AM I guess if I go through the mountain of old stuff I could come up with enough to make a new CD. What bugs me is, a couple of the ones I really want to put out have glitches like a missed word or a subdued cough. I have it! I'll just call the CD "CAVEAT EMPTOR". |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: KT Date: 18 Feb 07 - 02:49 AM YES, YES, YES!!! I've heard some of the old stuff and love it! To tell you the truth, I didn't even notice any pops or cracks. I was too busy noticing the lyrics and the picking and singing. I recently came across an old, old record, recorded in 1942. I took it to a sound engineer and had him clean it up and put it onto a CD. It still has lots of the scratchy sounds, but that's part of its charm. What was important to me was not the quality of the recording, but the preservation of it. I know it's hard for an artist to put out something they think is not their best, but the reason for releasing this one is different from the reasons behind the release of the others. I bet there are some folks around who have the equipment and expertise to help get this project done for a reasonable price. I think you should do it! KT |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: kendall Date: 17 Feb 07 - 01:49 PM You may come out of the kitchen now. LOL |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: jacqui.c Date: 17 Feb 07 - 12:19 PM I think that it would be a shame if some of this stuff didn't get onto CD. On the eve of Kendall's laser operation we actually found a disc of field recordings made in 2001, not long before Kendall was diagnosed with the cancer. There are signs then of the problem. Other stuff came from old tapes and they are a bit messy, but still the voice is there. I think that any artiste would be thinking twice about putting out material that doesn't come up to the standard of previous releases. We'll just have to think about the best way forward. And I'm sorry Jed, but, being totally unbiased as I am, I would have to vote for Kendall anytime. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: kendall Date: 16 Feb 07 - 01:24 PM I left them with a friend who does that sort of thing, and he reviewed the lot. Finally, he told me that he just doesn't have the time. There is a hell of a lot of work here to do it up right, so I'm toying with the idea of putting it all on a tape then transferring it to a CD and warning the buyer. If I'd known when I made them that it would be my last one I would have re-done the lot. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: beardedbruce Date: 16 Feb 07 - 10:14 AM It was a balmy 12 F here, this morning. I do think that Kendall should tidy up and release whatever he has- even if it is only telling his stories. THAT should not need too much technical work. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: John Hardly Date: 16 Feb 07 - 10:07 AM bb, As I am "enjoying" the tenth day in a row of below zero temps, I can sympathize with your memories of "only" zero. Said another way: I can't buy nary a single degree above zero. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: ranger1 Date: 16 Feb 07 - 10:02 AM Um, excuse me?! I think it would be worth it, Kendall. I think there are enough people out there who would buy a new Kendall Morse CD, especially if you put them on CD Baby and had people like me bragging you up. A lot of it is in the promotion and I have contacts with a lot of people who like folk, but don't know what to look for or where to buy it. Heck, I've turned a bunch of under 40 video gamers into Jed Marum fans! How could I do less for you? |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: beardedbruce Date: 16 Feb 07 - 10:01 AM "I know the average age here is considerably older than at that other forum (and thus, less up-to-date with computer software stuff), " HEY! Ive been working with computers so long I can remember when we only had zeros! 8-{E |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: John Hardly Date: 16 Feb 07 - 09:54 AM kendall, you might be surprised. I don't know the folks of this forum well enough, but on another guitar-related forum on which I participate there's a guy who does stuff like this as a hobby. And his end result is anything but hobby-like. I know the average age here is considerably older than at that other forum (and thus, less up-to-date with computer software stuff), but I'd be surprised if there wasn't one or two people expert enough with computer sound editing software to do a good job with your field recordings. And there's really no harm in trying. You wouldn't lose the field recordings if someone were to diddle around with them and come up with something. Heck, I just had someone send me an out of print vinyl recording of John Hartford music that, with simple computer software, came to me hiss and pop free and wholey enjoyable. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: kendall Date: 16 Feb 07 - 09:33 AM I'm sure you are right, but, that sort of talent is expensive, and I don't expect to sell a huge number of the finished product. So, I have to decide if it's worth the investment. The phrase, "Vanity press" comes to mind. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: MMario Date: 16 Feb 07 - 08:48 AM Kendall: audiophiles can do some pretty amazing things regarding cleaning up recordings etc. I'd bet if you can hook up with one of more there's probably a LOT of your recordings that can be brought up to snuff. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: kendall Date: 16 Feb 07 - 08:10 AM Jacqui and I have been digging through some old recordings I made before I lost my voice. They are somewhat crude field recordings and I don't know if any of them are good enough to make into a CD or not. It looks like I will never be able to do any more recording, so it's this or nothing. The hell of it is, there are some that I always wanted to put out on a CD, such as Patrick Spencer, Lonesome Robin, The Minstrel Show, I Remember Loving you,Faded roses of December, The last letter home, Whose gonna buy you ribbons, and The Honor of your company. I thought of just running them off just the way they are and calling the CD, "Warts and All", or "Before the fall." I wonder if I'll live long enough to stop regretting that I didn't quit smoking soon enough. Damn. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: Bill D Date: 15 Feb 07 - 11:08 PM Well, researchers in 2068 would have wondered, and been out looking for survivors of that Getaway, trying to get the story...good thing she fixed it! |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: GUEST Date: 15 Feb 07 - 09:49 PM ... after 6 Years you noticed?? |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: SINSULL Date: 15 Feb 07 - 09:15 PM Just read my last post and thought - I meant Allan's recorder, not his equipment. i'll leave now. M |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: SINSULL Date: 12 Nov 01 - 10:22 PM Marriage proposal????? Only if you agree to carry MY guitar! Actually, I was hoping for something a little less permanent. You know...one night stand sort of thing? But not the same night as Jeri. I mean - use some common sense! And if you three really are planning a "guy thing", try to tape at least some of it. Jeri will have to operate the equipment. I broke Allan's at the Getaway and he is still a little peeved over it. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: Jeri Date: 12 Nov 01 - 08:28 PM Jeez, Mick - I'll be happy to fawn on all of you! Equal opportunity fawner, here. What's this about a marriage proposial? You'd better be working on a harem... |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: Big Mick Date: 12 Nov 01 - 08:25 PM Jed, you should have an email from Rick anytime. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: Big Mick Date: 12 Nov 01 - 08:23 PM He is a partner in the firm of Fielding, Patterson, Swan and Lane, Layabouts at large and for Hire. This week is his turn to be Chief Executive Layabout, and good partner that I am, I was going to take the heat for him..........he lets this shite go to his head, really gets into this Head Layabout thing.....and Jeri fawns on him so, that I just didn't want to ruin her image of him.....you know how it is. Now..........Sins........about that marriage proposal....... Mick ducking for cover |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: Jeri Date: 12 Nov 01 - 08:18 PM Mick, what was that "but," anyway!? You're supposed to say "We'd love to have you come up and go out for donuts or carry our guitar cases (at least one of you needs some sort of hazard warning when carrying instrument cases) and stuff, but you know how Rick is..." |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: JedMarum Date: 12 Nov 01 - 08:13 PM Mick - I'd love it if you could arrange a gig enroute! I'll get back to you as soon as I hear from Rick about dates. The first week was hard for me because I had a date in AR that I can't move. So we are trying to find something that works better. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: JedMarum Date: 12 Nov 01 - 08:10 PM ooops! That was supposed to say "At least Kendall and I could get lots of advertizing!" |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: Big Mick Date: 12 Nov 01 - 07:28 PM Sins..........uh............see, ..........it's like this...........I didn't want to do it........you know how it is...........don't kick me in the ..............damn...............The biggest damn Mick you have ever seen ducks for the door Mick |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: SINSULL Date: 12 Nov 01 - 07:24 PM Uh Mick???? I thought you loved me? Carry your own damn guitar! Deborah Cowan's CD and Seamus' are also on the must have lists...this is getting expensive. Sorry, Cindy. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: Big Mick Date: 12 Nov 01 - 07:18 PM Damn, Jed! I was not saying that so I could be one of the whiners!! Shit, ........ but yeah, looks like we are on. I had Rick drop you a line. I may have a gig for you in Michigan to help with expenses. Drop me an email when you have had time to read Rick's message. Do it quick so I can lock in a date. Jeri..........you know I love ya, but......... Mick |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: JedMarum Date: 12 Nov 01 - 05:04 PM LOL - Seamus! Pay for the postage, and that's probably a good deal. At least Kendall could get a lotts adverting! Mick - I heard we may be twisting your arm into coming up Toronto?? Is that true? Rick has gone off to rework the dates a bit - I certainly you can make it up too. |
Subject: RE: Kendall or Jed From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 12 Nov 01 - 04:14 PM Buy one of mine and get a Kendall and a Jed CD free! No, wait! Maybe I'd better talk it over with them first! Seamus |
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