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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show & Dillards From: van lingle Date: 09 May 02 - 07:57 PM Thanks for the Roland White website mention, Steve-o. He's had one helluva career. vl |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show & Dillards From: Steve-o Date: 09 May 02 - 12:30 PM If you're truly interested, go to Roland White's website, and you'll see a picture right there of The Country Boys and Andy Griffith playing, on that episode. They played themselves, and there is some question as to whether they were featured in one or two episodes- I believe it was two. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show & Dillards From: Steve Latimer Date: 08 May 02 - 08:33 PM Hmm, I don't recall that one. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show & Dillards From: 53 Date: 08 May 02 - 08:13 PM The Country Boys played in the episode in which they played Whoa Mule. The one about the folk music album. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show & Dillards From: Steve Latimer Date: 08 May 02 - 01:36 PM Okay, Which episode did the Country Boys play in? I thought I had seen every episode, and I'm pretty sure that any I episode I saw featuring the Darlings, they were played by the Dillards. Did the Country Boys appear as themselves?
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show & Dillards From: Steve-o Date: 08 May 02 - 01:03 PM You betcha, Van Lingle. Whoever tells you the Kentucky Colonels (Country Boys) were the Dillards doesn't know his/her Bluegrass. And you sure as hell can tell the diff between Rodney (ugh!) Dillard and Clarence White on guitar!!! |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show & Dillards From: van lingle Date: 07 May 02 - 10:01 PM Steve-o mentions the Country Boys appearing in an episode of Andy G. Whenever I tell someone I saw Clarence and Roland White playing Bluegrass on that show they tell me it was actually the Dillards. Nice to know I'm not totally bonkers.vl |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: 53 Date: 07 May 02 - 08:41 PM Thanks Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Lonesome EJ Date: 07 May 02 - 04:18 PM As I grow older, I find great solace in old black and white movies and TV shows. Bogart, Bacall, Tracey, Hitchcock, film noire, Western Epics, plots that are clever and intricate, characters that are strongly drawn, moral issues with clear concepts of Good and Evil, where Dignity, Intelligence and Right Action reap reward. The notion of "corniness" doesn't trouble me as much as it used to, since what passes for "Cool" these days I mainly perceive as shallow and banal. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: catspaw49 Date: 07 May 02 - 04:18 PM Yo! BOB........TV LAND still shows the Andy Griffith Show a couple of times a day. CLICK HERE......daily schedules with episode guides are there too. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Fortunato Date: 07 May 02 - 03:54 PM Oh, how I long for the good old nostalgia of yesteryear, it's sort of like deju vu and alzheimers mixed, I know I've forgotten it before but I know I miss it still, even if it never really happened. I'm off to Mt. Airy, to stay in the Mayberry Motor Inn and eat at the Snappy Lunch in a month. Maybe I'll remember what didn't happen again. chance |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: 53 Date: 07 May 02 - 03:13 PM TV Land does not show any reruns of the Andy Griffith show now so the only way I'll be able to see them is once a week on Ch. 15 out of Chicago. Boy this is going to send me into a tailspin. Bob |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: GUEST,Nerd Date: 02 May 02 - 11:16 AM To each his/her own. I love Seinfeld. But then I grew up in the neighborhood where the characters live and spent mant a college night at the Diner where they hang out. Interestingly for folk/pop fans, this diner is called "Monk's" in the show, but is actually called Tom's (they always show the exterior so that "Tom's" is off screen to the left, and the only visible word is "Restaurant.") It is the same "Tom's Diner" about which Suzanne Vega wrote the song "Tom's Diner." We went to the same University, and she also used to hang out there, but about 5 years before me...
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Murph10566 Date: 02 May 02 - 09:49 AM Hal Smith (the self-jailing drunk, Otis) was originally from upstate New York, and sang in my Dad's band, before heading west to Hollywood, fame & Mayberry... Another upstate warbler who 'made it' on the small screen so long ago was Kirby Grant... Remember him on Saturday Mornings ? M. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: SharonA Date: 02 May 02 - 09:32 AM Nerd: Yeah, but they voted "Seinfeld" the number-one best show ever. I'm still scratching my head over that one. I don't know why it's even in the top 10 (so I think "Andy Griffith" should be, at worst, the 8th best!). |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Nerd Date: 02 May 02 - 02:27 AM Hey, Bob TV guide voted Andy Griffith the 9th best TV show ever. Thought you might like to know. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Steve Latimer Date: 01 May 02 - 03:49 PM Yeah, but it was one of them there funny banjers with four strings. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: GUEST,Nerd Date: 01 May 02 - 03:42 PM Bob, sorry for the drift into Dick Van Dyke. It was just that Greg Morris (theoretically) appeared in both, and the whole issue of racial representation in the show was brought up by several posters. Quite a thread drift from Andy Griffith and the Dillards...but Jerry Van Dyke played the banjo in several DVD episodes :-) classic TV nerd |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: CarolC Date: 01 May 02 - 12:25 AM (because I don't think he was born yet) |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: CarolC Date: 01 May 02 - 12:25 AM As a sperm. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: catspaw49 Date: 30 Apr 02 - 09:55 PM Kevin Bacon appeared in both. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: 53 Date: 30 Apr 02 - 09:42 PM How did the Dick Van Dyke show come up in this? |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: GUEST,Nerd Date: 30 Apr 02 - 06:02 PM Actually, Greg Morris only really appeared in two Dick Van Dyke episodes. "The Last Chapter" is an episode where scenes from Rob's memoirs are replayed. In other words, one of those "we're over budget, so we'll show old scenes" episodes. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: SharonA Date: 29 Apr 02 - 05:05 PM Well, Bob, it took a while but I finally stumbled upon the answer to your question. Jack Nicholson appeared in the episode "Aunt Bee, the Juror". If I remember correctly, this was the one where Aunt Bee thought that the guy on trial was innocent while the other 11 jurors disagreed, and she held her ground until finally another guy either confessed to or was caught for the crime. I don't remember whether or not Nicholson was the young man on trial. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: 53 Date: 25 Apr 02 - 10:14 PM What episode did Jack play in and what was it about? |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Lonesome EJ Date: 25 Apr 02 - 02:47 PM I remember "Bupkis". I also remember it seemed like an odd song title for a goyim like Rob Petrie to come up with. :>} |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: SharonA Date: 25 Apr 02 - 02:15 PM Re "The Dick van Dyke Show": According to this site that GUEST referred us to earlier, Greg Morris appeared in three episodes of the show. As catspaw said, he played the character Mr. Peters in the baby-switch episode "That's My Boy" (9/25/1963), and played Mr. Peters again in the episode "The Last Chapter" (6/1/1966). Does anyone remember that 1966 episode? The third "Dick Van Dyke" episode Morris appeared in was "Bupkis" (3/10/1965), where he played Frank Mandalay. If I remember correctly, Mandalay was an old Army buddy of Rob Petrie, and together they confronted another Army buddy who had recorded and released a song the three of them had written together – but without the others' permission. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: thosp Date: 25 Apr 02 - 12:49 AM i loved the Andy Griffith Show and i still do --- as for it taking on socially relevent issues - it did - i watch the reruns on tvland --- (which was recently added to my cable vision package) and have already seen a few shows that dealt with womens rights - i'm sure other social issues were also touched on ---- bottom line it was wholesome family entertainment --- i remember three generations of my family watching it together every week-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- on another note Jac H of Elektra --- how about rereleasing D'ian and the GReenbriar Boys? peace (Y) thosp |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: irishajo Date: 24 Apr 02 - 11:26 AM The Beverly Hillbillies apparently provides good Sunday School material. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: CarolC Date: 24 Apr 02 - 12:15 AM Actually, I think the makers of the Andy Griffith show did see it as being at least in part to educate. One of Opie's friends was Jewish, and I think the show was groundbreaking in that respect also. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: CarolC Date: 24 Apr 02 - 12:10 AM I saw the Nicholson episode! |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: khandu Date: 23 Apr 02 - 11:07 PM Do any of you remember Jack Nicholson playing a part in one Andy Griffith Show episode? He did! khandu
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: catspaw49 Date: 23 Apr 02 - 10:22 PM RE: Greg Morris An early Dick Van Dyke show had a lot of trouble being approved by the network brass. In this show, a flashback, Dick is convinced that their infant Richie was switched for another baby at the hospital and he calls the other couple to come over to their home. The "punch line" for the show was that when the couple showed up they were black. The man was played by Greg Morris. Even this was a hard sell to the brass though. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Date: 23 Apr 02 - 09:41 PM I also noticed an episode of Andy Griffith last night where there were a couple of African-American faces in a crowd scene. Granted it is not the same as having a regular character, but by doing that simple gesture I think they were trying to attempt to give Mayberry a stab at reflecting a real town. I grew up in a New Jersey town during the 1960's and the African-American population was very, very small at the time. Now in 2002 the town is happily diverse, not only a much larger African-American community but also one of the largest Filipino populations in the country as well as a strong Asian community. The town celebrates diversity with annual festivals and events that everyone celebrates. It would have been unheard of in 1960. I'm not trying to say the town is perfect, but there have been substantial changes made since the 1960's. People learn and grow. The initial comments slamming Andy Griffith were uncalled for in my estimation. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: 53 Date: 23 Apr 02 - 09:06 PM The show's musicical director did the whistling on the intro of the show. I just learned that last night. Bob |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: DougR Date: 23 Apr 02 - 08:41 PM Now don't get carried away, Kendall. :>) DougR |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Steve-o Date: 23 Apr 02 - 05:04 PM Wow, I unearthed Jac Holzman (quite possibly he was here all the time)- how about the magic of this here medium? Jac, betcha there's 75% of your catalogue on vinyl in my back closet. Elektra gave me countless hours of enraptured listening and LEARNING. Thank you, thank you.. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: kendall Date: 23 Apr 02 - 04:40 PM Call the "Home" !! Doug is beginning to make sense! LOL |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: DougR Date: 23 Apr 02 - 04:34 PM I don't understand why many of you feel that the purpose for a television sitcom is to educate. It's not! (my opinion only of course) It is to entertain. When it ceases to be entertaining, it ceases to be. The fact that the Andy Griffith Show had no Black characters is beside the point. It is conceivable that Mayberry had no Black citizens. I never saw a Chinese actor on the show either, or an Afghanstan, or a Japanese. Would it have made the show more entertaining? Maybe. It would depend on the plot of that particular show. I think actors want to be thought of as actors, not as Blacks, Japanese, Chinese, or anything else. As ridiculous as I thought Halle Berry's "performance" was after she accepted her "Oscar," I think that was the point she was trying to make. DougR |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Mooh Date: 23 Apr 02 - 10:23 AM I generally agree with folks as to the quality of Green Acres and Pettycoat Junction, particularly as compared to The Andy Griffith Show, but I think one of the best and poorly disguised jokes is the name "Hooterville". In a time when young boys like myself had little on TV to drool over, those hooters were mighty fine! Three pair in a little out of the way hotel made for some fine school boy fantasies...Boy, that takes me back! (Drool). Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy Date: 23 Apr 02 - 10:06 AM I know it's called thread creep, but I've been trying to find the answer to this question for a long while and have asked on ohter threads, but since Jac may come back to this thread after a round of golf or two here goes. Did Elektra ever release the promised childrens' album of Susan Reed? and if so, where can I find a copy? |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Lonesome EJ Date: 22 Apr 02 - 10:03 PM If Jac comes back to this thread, I wonder if he would share some thoughts about the amazing transition in music that happened from 1960 to 1970. Being a period of almost unlimited experimentation and an increasing diversity of tastes, it must have been extremely difficult for the folks at Elektra to anticipate what would be marketable. I would also love to hear Jac's take on how the record business has changed from the inception of Elektra to the present day. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Lynn Date: 22 Apr 02 - 10:03 PM Boy, for a thread that was supposed to be fun, this one got mighty serious!! |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: 53 Date: 22 Apr 02 - 10:00 PM Beverly Hillbillies had some good picking on those shows by Flatt and Scruggs. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Lepus Rex Date: 22 Apr 02 - 09:58 PM Ugh, Green Acres, Petticoat Junction. Hate those too. Wanna know the sick part, though? I LOVE the Beverly Hillbillies. :( ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: 53 Date: 22 Apr 02 - 09:53 PM I really love all the history you guys are sharing, keep it up. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Lonesome EJ Date: 22 Apr 02 - 02:50 PM Thanks Jac. Hit 'em long and straight. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: GUEST,Jac Holzman Date: 22 Apr 02 - 02:42 PM Ars Nova was signed in 1968. They did one album for us that tanked. They did a second album for Atlantic in 1969 and it tanked too. I don't know that we were trying to cultivate anything other than record sales. The folk music scene, our bread and butter since 1955, was in serious decline and we tried a number of different acts. The Doors, obviously, worked for us. Ars Nova didn't. That's it for today. I've got a golf game with Maynard Solomon to get to. Jac Holzman |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Lonesome EJ Date: 22 Apr 02 - 02:06 PM Hi Jac. When was the band Ars Nova signed, and was that an attempt to cultivate an "art rock" niche for Elektra? |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: GUEST,Jac Holzman Date: 22 Apr 02 - 01:59 PM We signed The Dillards to Elektra in 1962 and released their first album in 1963. Elektra was almost exclusively a folk music label at that time. The Doors were the first rock band we signed to Elektra. That was in 1966. We put out their first album in 1967. Jac Holzman Founder of Elektra Records |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: GUEST Date: 22 Apr 02 - 01:43 PM ...so when Electra signed The Dillards back in nineteen-sixty-something how many bluegrass/folk acts were on that label, compared to acts like The Doors? The Dillards themselves were surprised that they wound up on Electra, given the label's roster at the time. (whistling "Forever Young") |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Steve-o Date: 22 Apr 02 - 01:29 PM Back to the music-related stuff of this subject: "Electra, which was better known for signing groups like The Doors, not The Dillards..."- Boy, are you ever a youngster- Electra was a major label for FOLK MUSIC long before the Doors existed. And BTW, the Dillards were blown out of the water when the Country Boys (later to be Kentucky Colonels) played Andy Griffith! |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: kendall Date: 22 Apr 02 - 01:29 PM Except for the background music(which really sucked) Barney Miller is the best sit com ever. NYPD Blue is the best dramatic series, but, alas, again all that pounding makes me go for the mute button. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Lonesome EJ Date: 22 Apr 02 - 01:15 PM Of course, Amos and Andy featured an all-black cast years before the Griffith Show, although few would call it ground-breaking. Stereotypical as it was, it may have been less insulting to African Americans than the standard fare on Def Comedy Jam. Was the principle objection because it was the work of white writers perpetuating stereotypes, rather than black ones? |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Ron Olesko Date: 22 Apr 02 - 01:10 PM Sharon, It should also be noted that the breakthrough roles that you mention came in the latter half of the decade. In 1960 when Andy Griffith debuted (originally as a spin-off from the Danny Thomas show). Griffith left the series in 1968, just as those breakthrough roles were changing television. It would have been interesting to see what Griffith would have done with the series if he stayed. Lepus, We talking Mayberry, not Fargo! What were you expecting from 1960's TV????? Sounds like your TV changer needs to be repaired if you are forced to watch Andy Griffith to the point where you become nauseous! Good luck!! :) Ron |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: CarolC Date: 22 Apr 02 - 01:04 PM Why don't CarolC and The Banjoest just do a Google search and find out the facts before making things up?
I never said the character was played by Greg Morris.
But I was wrong about the Andy Griffith show being the first to have a black character. Aparently there were a limited number of shows that had black characters who were typical of the prevailing US stereotypes of black people at that time. However, not too long ago I saw a show that was a retrospective about the Andy Griffith Show on which I'm pretty sure I remember it being shown that there was a black character on at least one episode (and I guess they felt it was groundbreaking because the character wasn't a stereotype). It's possible that my memory is faulty about this. I don't have any problem with being wrong. But I don't think you can prove me wrong just by doing the kind of search you did in this case. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Lonesome EJ Date: 22 Apr 02 - 12:40 PM The Beverly Hillbillies may have portrayed southerners as bumpkins, but remember...the main plots nearly always showed the Clampetts getting the best of the urbane sophisticates around them. I liked the show where Mr Drysdale thought that the Clampetts had an ongoing feud with a family called "the Greens", while Jed was talking about Collard Greens. "Yep," said Jed, "by the end of April we had Greens planted all over the property. You couldn't walk five feet without steppin' on one. Then the big rains came and washed all them greens out of the ground and down into the crick." The Andy Griffith Show was great, I thought. Yeah, it was chock full of homespun American rural values, but it nearly always used good humor and hilarious characters to demonstrate them. It had a great cast of characters : Barney Phyfe was a classic of the self-important bumbler. Otis, Floyd, Gomer, Aunt Bee, Ernest T (whom I can thank for a persistent nickname in High School), and Opie were all well drawn and well acted. Now if you want a real sickener of a sitcom, Lepus, how about Green Acres? Watching that show gave me a tangible feeling of wasting my time, and was nearly claustrophobia-inducing with its obnoxious characters, corny humor, and two-dimensional sets. Petticoat Junction was nearly as bad, except for old, cynical, cantankerous Uncle Joe who kept things relatively interesting. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: SharonA Date: 22 Apr 02 - 12:11 PM Ron Olesko says, "...you are being naive if you think that television as it existed in the early 1960's would have allowed Griffith to tackle the [African-American actor] issue. It is easy to be a Monday morning quarterback and blame Griffith but that wouldn't be right. Television still had some growing up to do, as did the country." I agree, but I want to point out that if the show and the network had not chosen to "ignore the fact that African Americans even existed in the South", and instead had created roles for black actors that reflected the way blacks were treated at that time in the South, the result would most likely have been shamefully demeaning. Don't forget that most roles written for African -Americans at that time were for servants such as butlers or maids, or for poor or vagrant persons. Breakthrough roles such as Bill Cosby's in "I Spy", Greg Morris's in "Mission: Impossible", Diahann Carroll's in "Julia" and Nichelle Nichols's in "Star Trek" were very controversial. Advertisers don't like controversy unless it increases viewership, and advertisers fuel the TV industry. For all we know, the writers of "The Andy Griffith Show" may have attempted to introduce a black character as a respected member of the community, but the advertisers or the network may have nixed it because of a fear of ratings drop-off. If so, perhaps the absence of black actors on "Andy Griffith" was the result of a conscious choice on the part of the writers NOT to create an African-American character at all if they weren't allowed to create a character that was not a demeaning caricature of a human being. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: GUEST Date: 22 Apr 02 - 11:49 AM ...great story about how the Dillards got the Andy Griffith gig, as told by one of the Dillards himself: It seems as though they had only been in Los Angeles a few weeks, playing local gigs and generally starving to death when one of them found out about the Griffith audition and figured, "why not?" Griffith listened to them play for about 30 seconds, then stood up and said, "That's it, I've heard enough." The Dillards figured they had been rejected again (they originally came out to California to land a record deal, and eventually wound up on Electra, which was better known for signing groups like The Doors, not The Dillards). Griffith said, "You guys are perfect. You all look as dumb as rocks." The rest, as they say, is history. In hindsight there was some resentment at the show playing up to some typical Southern stereotypes. The "boys" were so dumb they couldn't even say "Howdy." But the other side of that coin is, when you can play that good, you can let your music do your talking for you. The Dillards made up for their lack of social graces by opening up a great big can of whup-ass every time they tore into a song like "Dooley." The underlying theme was, they were able to redeem themselves through music.
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: SharonA Date: 22 Apr 02 - 11:31 AM Perhaps the "Morris" confusion stems from the fact that there was a recurring role on the program performed by Howard Morris (who was not African-American). He played mountain man Ernest T. Bass, according to this page: http://www.tvland.com/shows/griffith/show_index07.jhtml |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: SharonA Date: 22 Apr 02 - 11:19 AM The GUEST who posted on 22-Apr-02 - 10:41 AM said: "If you go to http://us.imdb.com/Name?Morris,+Greg+(I)#guest you will find a list of every TV guest appearance that Greg Morris made since his debut in 1959." That is incorrect. The heading in that list clearly states "Notable TV guest appearances", so not every guest appearance is listed. If Morris did appear on the Andy Griffith Show, IMDb must not have considered it worthy of note. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Lepus Rex Date: 22 Apr 02 - 11:01 AM I can't even sit through a single episode of this show. How could anyone enjoy something so nauseatingly sincere? All I can think while watching it is: "Please, TV Gods, throw in a wise-cracking serial killer, or maybe just make Opie gay." If it weren't for "I Love Lucy" sucking ass up in the #1 spot, this would be my least-favourite sitcom, ever. :) ---Lepus Rex (I hate this show) |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: GUEST Date: 22 Apr 02 - 10:41 AM According to CarolC there was a black character on the Andy Griffith Show. According to The Banjoest, that black character was olayed by Garret, no, Greg Morris (a natural mistake, they're both black). If you go to http://us.imdb.com/Name?Morris,+Greg+(I)#guest you will find a list of every TV guest appearance that Greg Morris made since his debut in 1959. No mention of The Andy Griffith Show. Then, if you go to http://www.tvland.com/shows/griffith/episode_index.jhtml you will find a synopsis, with the names of guest stars, for every episode of The Andy Griffith Show. No mention of Greg Morris. Why don't CarolC and The Banjoest just do a Google search and find out the facts before making things up? |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: allanwill Date: 22 Apr 02 - 10:36 AM The citizens of Mayberry were a very likable mob. The chatacters in Seinfeld would have to be the most un-likable bunch of misfits I would ever hate to meet. Allan |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Lynn Date: 22 Apr 02 - 10:32 AM Did you know you can whistle the Andy Griffith theme as a break between verses in "The Gypsy Rover"? |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: X Date: 22 Apr 02 - 10:09 AM Did I get the "Mission Impossible" thing correct? |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: 53 Date: 22 Apr 02 - 10:02 AM This show was the medicine that everyone needed during that time. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: GUEST,BIll Kennedy Date: 22 Apr 02 - 09:19 AM maybe the best all around 'sitcom' ever made for TV, pathos, bathos, humour, everything, AND music. The best feature of the show, which has been cut in all of its syndication, that I have seen, was the last part after the last commercial break. Andy sitting on the front porch with his guitar, Opie, Aunty Bee, and maybe some character who had been over the house, all singing old songs together. I would love for whoever is syndicating the show to restore those moments to it, or run an entire show of just those 2-3 minute musical moments. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: kendall Date: 22 Apr 02 - 07:20 AM They had an Englishman once; does that count? |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: kendall Date: 22 Apr 02 - 07:19 AM GREG Morris. I read somewhere that this was the most popular series in history. Wonder if Sienfeld will be around 40 years from now. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: GUEST,jonesey Date: 22 Apr 02 - 07:16 AM Ahh...wrong again the name is Greg Morris. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: GUEST Date: 22 Apr 02 - 03:00 AM Wha? |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: DougR Date: 22 Apr 02 - 01:23 AM Come to think of it, I don't think I saw a Tibetan on that show either. Shoot. DougR |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: X Date: 22 Apr 02 - 12:39 AM Ah...That was Gary Morris. Sorry. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: CarolC Date: 22 Apr 02 - 12:33 AM Actually, I believe that the Andy Griffith Show was the first television show in the US to have a character on it who was black. I don't know if that was a one time only thing, but I think they were a groundbreaking show in that respect. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: X Date: 21 Apr 02 - 11:52 PM I can recall one African American in one show and only one show, Garret Morris. He later became a regular on the TV show "Mission Impossible". |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Date: 21 Apr 02 - 11:07 PM Guest, you are being naive if you think that television as it existed in the early 1960's would have allowed Griffith to tackle the issue. It is easy to be a Monday morning quarterback and blame Griffith but that wouldn't be right. Television still had some growing up to do, as did the country. Politics and social conscious aside, it was a great show. It is nice to watch the old episodes and see how folk music would often sneak into the soundtrack. The Dillards were only one aspect. Griffith would often be seen strumming a folk tune on the guitar. The humor could easily have taken the Beverly Hillbillies approach making fun of southern culture, but instead it presented a warm picture of the citizens of Mayberry - poking fun at individual traits instead of cultural stereotypes. As an aside, I was under the weather with a virus a few weeks ago and spent a few hours watching Andy Griffith on TVLand. I felt I was transported back in the 1960's when a sick day from school would be spent in front of the old Motorola black and white watching Andy Griffith. All I needed was an interuption for coverage of a Mercury or Gemini launch and it would have been a perfect reproduction. I could picture my mother bringing me a glass of gingerale and some saltines, and maybe a Pop-tart when my stomach was well enough to handle it! You can go home again, all it takes is a TV show to bring you there! |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: khandu Date: 21 Apr 02 - 10:43 PM I love the program. The shows featuring the "Darlings" were entertaining, but not my favorites. I did not like the "Darling" girl. (I forget her name.) Did not like Ernest T. I watched it when it was new, and I have watched it ever since. And I will continue to watch as time allows. Great program. khandu |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: GUEST Date: 21 Apr 02 - 10:34 PM Am I the only one who was bothered by the fact that Mayberry, Andy's idyllic town in North Carolina, never had one African American person in it? In all the years it was on television, not one African American actor had even a bit role. This show was filmed at the height of the civil rights era in the American South. The Andy Griffith show could have helped to make a difference. However, Griffith chose to ignore the fact that African Americans even existed in the South. Oh yeah, one of the best shows ever on TV. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: 53 Date: 21 Apr 02 - 10:21 PM WE watch it on TVLand all the time. It's still one of the best choices there is. Bob and Glenda |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: X Date: 21 Apr 02 - 10:12 PM Doug Dillard has a new banjo book out that has the "Darling" tunes in it and more. |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Steve Latimer Date: 21 Apr 02 - 10:04 PM I was a big fan. The Darlings sure added something to the few shows that they were on. How about Earnest T. Bass? |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: Charcloth Date: 21 Apr 02 - 09:55 PM on of the best show ever on TV |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: 53 Date: 21 Apr 02 - 09:53 PM Yes, Doug I do too. Bob |
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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show From: DougR Date: 21 Apr 02 - 09:51 PM Yes, Bob, I do. But I liked the Andy Griffith Show with our without the Dillards. DougR |
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Subject: Andy Griffith Show From: 53 Date: 21 Apr 02 - 09:49 PM Does anybody like the Andy Griffith Shows in which the Dillards portray a hillbilly band called the Darlings. I love that show. |
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