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Subject: RE: Origin: lyrics to Colonel Bogey From: GUEST,Clarkie Date: 27 Aug 23 - 08:42 AM Taught to me by my father from his St Andrews Uni days in the early 60's: Hitler has only got one ball Göring has two but very small Himmler has something similar But poor old Goebels has no balls at all Where was the engine driver when the engine boiler bust They found his bollocks 10,000 miles away Whilst searching in a pile of hay His penis was found on venus But poor old Goebels still has no balls at all |
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Subject: RE: Origin: lyrics to Colonel Bogey From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 27 Aug 23 - 09:22 PM Los Angeles Area Council - BSA ing Had three camps in the local mountains (Lake Arrowhead Scout Camps) and several more. The local mountains have been subjects of wild-fires for melleniums. The camp fees were addressed by facilities resources available. "Big Horn" expensive, with dinning-hall. "Pepperdine" great merit-badge resources - cook your own "Cedar" scared by multiple fires - resonable - same programs. The following Col Boggie was "banned" from being sung...by the staff... But, somehow ... it reapeared each summer ... And was sung with gusto and pride by each new week's campers: Cedar, looks like a great disease... Cedar - We can beat her ... With either Bighorn or even Pepperdine. Sincerely, Gargoyle Curiously, that camping complex is now known as "Forest Lawn" a local mortuary/cemetery conglomerate. |
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Subject: RE: Origin: lyrics to Colonel Bogey From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 27 Aug 23 - 09:22 PM Los Angeles Area Council - BSA ing Had three camps in the local mountains (Lake Arrowhead Scout Camps) and several more. The local mountains have been subjects of wild-fires for melleniums. The camp fees were addressed by facilities resources available. "Big Horn" expensive, with dinning-hall. "Pepperdine" great merit-badge resources - cook your own "Cedar" scared by multiple fires - resonable - same programs. The following Col Boggie was "banned" from being sung...by the staff... But, somehow ... it reapeared each summer ... And was sung with gusto and pride by each new week's campers: Cedar, looks like a great disease... Cedar - We can beat her ... With either Bighorn or even Pepperdine. Sincerely, Gargoyle Curiously, that camping complex is now known as "Forest Lawn" a local mortuary/cemetery conglomerate. |
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Subject: RE: Origin: lyrics to Colonel Bogey From: GUEST,Clarkie Date: 27 Aug 23 - 08:42 AM Taught to me by my father from his St Andrews Uni days in the early 60's: Hitler has only got one ball Göring has two but very small Himmler has something similar But poor old Goebels has no balls at all Where was the engine driver when the engine boiler bust They found his bollocks 10,000 miles away Whilst searching in a pile of hay His penis was found on venus But poor old Goebels still has no balls at all |
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Subject: RE: Origin: lyrics to Colonel Bogey From: GUEST,johnp Date: 08 Jan 23 - 04:35 PM They found his bollocks, a thousand miles away Floating in Honolulu Bay Swimmin` With naked wimmin And having a wonderful time. RAF NS lads 1962 Wood Norton |
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Subject: RE: Origin: lyrics to Colonel Bogey From: GUEST,Ritzmar Date: 05 Oct 13 - 01:38 PM The B side of this 10" record, if I recall correctly, was called "Somewhere in England", and one of the verses, and its chorus, with a different tune to 'Colonel Bogey', went: Dear Mum & Dad, It's been sometime since we've had A chance to write to you with all this trouble brewing But here is a line just to say that we are fine And let you know just where we are, and what we're doing. We're somewhere in England, somewhere on its British Isle Doing our duty, with a song and a joke and a smile We're somewhere in England, waiting for the work to begin and it won't be long before you hear this song From somewhere in Berlin. . . . and the end of the last verse is something like: And while we're away every hour of every day We hope and pray that you will keep the home fires burning |
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Subject: RE: Origin: lyrics to Colonel Bogey From: GUEST,Ritzmar Date: 05 Oct 13 - 01:23 PM When I was a kid (I am now 67) we had an old 10" 78 gramophone record, beautifully sung in harmony, but by whom I do not know. But from around 55-60 years ago, I remember: Hitler, We're marching on your tail Hitler, no wonder you turn pale Look out, let's get your book out For you will need it to read it in jail, (just before they hang you) Hitler, although it may sound harsh Britain will pull your darned moustache Villain, whose name is Hitler You'll be much littler Before we are through and another verse, later in the song: Hitler, we're going to see it through Hitler, this is the end for you Goering, the lion's roaring And Ribentropp, we wil topple him too (like the other nasties) Hitler, remember Kaiser Bill Hitler you'd better make your will Hitler . . . (sorry, cannot remember this line!) This is your blot-out, so Hitler, you're through! |
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Subject: RE: Origin: lyrics to Colonel Bogey From: GUEST Date: 08 May 12 - 07:44 AM The British Soldiers sang this song during the II world war. I know part of the original Lyrics from my dad. |
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Subject: RE: Origin: lyrics to Colonel Bogey From: GUEST,henryp Date: 01 Apr 12 - 09:08 AM "just before the 1914 War when Ricketts was stationed at Fort George near Inverness in Scotland" Inverness isn't far from Strathbogie - the valley of the Water of Bogie. Huntly town was formerly called Strathbogie. Bogie of nearby Cairnie was the father of Bogie's Bonny Belle. Alford is a little further, in the valley of the Don that flows to Aberdeen. |
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Subject: RE: Origin: lyrics to Colonel Bogey From: GUEST,Mr. Bill Date: 31 Mar 12 - 11:04 AM The version my Dad (born and raised in Glasgow) taught me was: Horace, you've made a mess of me, Horace, you'll have to marry me, Horace, we'll call him Boris, And then there'll be Horace and Boris and Me, Where was the engine driver when the boiler busted,found his Asshole A million miles away, they found his penis, Somewhere on Venus, They'll find the rest of him some other day. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 07 Mar 10 - 05:21 PM In high school band (in '46, '47, '48) I played tuba, and my very favorite march was Colonel Bogey because of the wonderful lower-brass second melody, which showed off the tubas, baritones, and trombones. Unfortunately, it has never appealed to the parodists, so it appears, so most people don't know it as they know the "horseshit" or "Hitler" theme. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: Paul Reade Date: 07 Mar 10 - 03:58 PM We used to sing a variant of the "stew" version - it was in Lancashire after all, so it would be about the top local delicacy:- Bollocks, they make the best meat pies Bollocks, the very shape and size Knackers, go well with crackers But only bollocks make the best meat pies |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: GUEST Date: 07 Mar 10 - 12:27 AM LOL |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: GUEST Date: 28 Jan 10 - 09:43 PM As we used to sing it: Bullshit it makes the grass grow green Horseshit it does the same damn thing bullshit or is it horseshit both will grow grass the greenest youve seen |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: GUEST Date: 28 Jan 10 - 09:37 PM Bullshit it makes the grass grow green Horseshit it does the same damn thing bullshit or is it horseshit it grows grass the greenest youve seen |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: Mrs Scarecrow Date: 09 Nov 09 - 01:57 PM Hi Pinette my grandmothers maiden name was Holmes I think it was capetown they lived in or near it. My grandfather my also have gone to South Africa because he was a marine bandmaster and went all over the world. The only places I know for certain are New Zealand and Canada. I dont think he stayed long term there and could not say when or where. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: PSzymeczek Date: 08 Nov 09 - 10:17 PM Severn - Here's the version I remember from the 60's/70's: Reup, and buy a brand new car. Reup, show what a fool you are. Reup? I'd sooner throw up. I'd sooner throw up than reup today. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: Charley Noble Date: 08 Nov 09 - 09:06 PM Joe F- I like the way your mind works! Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: Joe_F Date: 08 Nov 09 - 08:00 PM McGrath: Never heard of it. I'll have a look. Incidentally, note the resemblance to Nymphomaniacal Alice Used a dynamite stick for a phallus. They found her vagina In North Carolina, Her rectum in Buckingham Palace. Does this suffice to establish a motif? Perhaps "TransAtlantic dismemberment" or, more broadly, "Explosions -- implausible consequences", to take in big Jim Goff. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 08 Nov 09 - 06:27 PM Been reading Stephen Fry's "The Ode less travelled", Joe? Good book. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: Joe_F Date: 08 Nov 09 - 06:11 PM OV: IMO McGrath's line can be made to scan (well enough for folk music) if "when" & "the" are both unstressed, so that one has a dactyl in place of a trochee -- adding a little rhythmic interest, in the spirit of English prosody. Furthermore, that version has logic on its side, for at the instant when the boiler burst, the driver was presumably in one piece. Indeed, it is conceivable that over the last 51 years I myself have corrupted the line. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: MGM·Lion Date: 08 Nov 09 - 01:31 PM ... mine a bit back, 5 Nov, 10.04 pm. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: Old Vermin Date: 08 Nov 09 - 01:30 PM Naming no names, but should there be a mandatory donation to the Mudcat coffers for posting suggested lyrics that don't scan? |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: MGM·Lion Date: 07 Nov 09 - 01:31 PM Come now, McGrath, this is a folk site — surely you know better than try to establish a definitive version. Either mine/JoeF's [similar tho I prefer my 'blew' to his/your 'burst'] will fit the flourish, yours with emphasis on the 'go', his/mine on the 'was'... I find it interestg that his 1958 St Andrews Univ version should start so similarly to my mid-1940s Hendon County School one, even to the detail of 'Hudson Bay' - no matter that they then diverge; only 2B expected... |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 07 Nov 09 - 01:19 PM Isn't it "Where did the engine driver go when the boiler burst..."? |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: Joe_F Date: 06 Nov 09 - 06:13 PM I seem to remember a version sung at St Andrews University in 1958: Where was the engine-driver when the boiler burst? They found his ballocks a thousand miles away, Floating upon the Hudson Bay, His arsehole Was up a flagpole, And his penis in St Andrews common dines. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: GUEST,Pinette Date: 06 Nov 09 - 01:59 PM Ms Scarecrow Okay, great. Last questions...... Your Grandmother, who was married to Kenneth Alford...........what was her name and maiden name. Any idea where in South Africa she and your Mom lived? Thanks again for all your patience. It has been much appreciated All the best |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: dick greenhaus Date: 06 Nov 09 - 01:51 PM In the 60s, kids were singing: Comet! It makes your teeth turn green Comet! It tastes like gasoline Comet! It makes you vomit So get some Comet, and vomit today. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 06 Nov 09 - 01:44 PM Then there was: BOLLOCKS, and the same to you, BOLLOCKS, they make a damned good stew, BOLLOCKS, mixed up with scallops, And a nice tasty arsehole or two. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: Mrs Scarecrow Date: 06 Nov 09 - 01:24 PM Hi Pinette I hope I've got the dates right. As far as I know my grandmother went out to South Africa in about 1948 after Kenneth J Alford died. My mother followed shortly after or possibly at the same time. She was unmarried at that time . She returned a year to 18months later still unmarried. She married my father William Mathews in 1954. My Grandmother remained in South Africa until 1959 or60 when she came back, she died in 1961. Hope this helps |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: Ian Fyvie Date: 05 Nov 09 - 10:29 PM Our city has four brass bands. I've heard three of those play Kenneth Alford tunes in the last two years. His work lives on with vengeance Mrs S! Try listening to his compositions "Holyrood" especially - excellent. And Spirit of St George? Great Little Army? The Genealogy theme ..... I hope people appreciate the link made in this thread!! Ian Fyvie |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: MGM·Lion Date: 05 Nov 09 - 10:04 PM You can get the tune of this 'flourish' if you sing it, as we used to in my long-since schooldays, as - 'Where was the engine driver when the boiler blew? — They found his BOLLOCKS A thousand miles away Floating way down in Hudson Bay. Floating, they found them floating And so we had them for dinner today.' Not a version that makes much sense; but doesn't appear to have been quoted on this thread before, so perhaps worth record. & it does start with the 'flourish'. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 05 Nov 09 - 06:12 PM McGrath - and THAT matched up with WHAT tune? Matches up with a kind of musical flourish that bands do before getting into the tune. There's probably a technical term for it, but I don't know it. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: GUEST,Pinette Date: 05 Nov 09 - 05:09 PM To Ms Scarecrow Thanks so much for your info. My late Mom-in-law always believed that her husband Lawrie Atkinson was the son of John Herbert Atkinson and Violet Alford, the daughter of Kenneth Alford, the composer who wrote Colonel Bogey, etc while in The Royal Marines. During my research I found that his real name was Frederick Joseph Ricketts. As I have never found any info on his personal life I could not make the connection. Now I know why......there probably wasn't any. Could you please give me some information regarding your Mother in South Africa (names, dates, her husbands name etc) as it would make very interesting reading and possibly shed some light onto how this mix up might have occurred. Thanks |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: Mrs Scarecrow Date: 05 Nov 09 - 01:53 PM To guest Pinette Much as I would like to find a new relative I dont think that is the case. My Grandfathers Daughter's were Sheila, Paula and Josie. There was no Violet. You may not be aware that his actual surname was not Alford, which was a penname. Could this be where confusion has arisen. Let me know if you have any further information. There is a book detailing my grandfather's life. 'Colonel Bogey to the Fore' by John Trendell, published by the Blue Band Magazine. It will give you all the details of his life. To Ian Fyvie I am really delighted to hear that his work is still inspiring people Mrs S |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: bubblyrat Date: 05 Nov 09 - 05:11 AM Sorry to drift "off thread" a bit,but as a keen amateur genealogist I am interested in the idea of "Mudcatters" discovering family ties with each other,as the above suggests. Indeed,following a chance remark about unusual Christian names on this forum, by regular poster " Will Fly", I discovered that we are second cousins !Thus it would be most gratifying if a familial link is actually established between Ann and Pinette . |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: GUEST,Pinette Atkinson Date: 05 Nov 09 - 12:52 AM To Ms Scarecrow! The information that I have is that Kenneth Alford's daughter , Violet, married a Mr Rose in South Africa and after his death, married my husbands grandfather, John Herbert Atkinson in Cape Town. This information was given to me by my late mother in law who always spoke about her Mom in law as being the daughter of the bandmaster Kenneth J Alford. I would be very interested to hear whatever information you have on him. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: Ian Fyvie Date: 04 Nov 09 - 08:05 PM Check out other tunes by Kenneth Alford - they're brilliant! In my opinion (I'm one of Britain's newest brass band composers) his compositions are equally as good as those of Sousa (Monty Python theme plus lots more you'll have heard in Hollywood films) and the other legendary military, brass and Salvation Army composers - and a great inspiration in my writing. Ian Fyvie |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: GUEST Date: 04 Nov 09 - 08:02 PM McGrath - and THAT matched up with WHAT tune? |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 04 Nov 09 - 07:15 PM When I learned it in the cadets at school it always had the introductory line: We are the shit-shovellers shovelling shit on the shit parade - They say that Hitler has only got one ball etc |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 04 Nov 09 - 06:17 PM Severn informed us: In WWII, my dad sung it as: "Bullshit, will make the grass grow tall...." and Frogprince chimed in with: "Bullshit, it makes the grass grow green". When I was a kid (back before the Earth's crust cooled), the few lines I remember went: Horseshit! It makes your grass grow green! Greener Than anything you've seen! More's the pity, I remember nothing more. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: GUEST Date: 04 Nov 09 - 04:07 PM Los Angeles Area Council (LAAC) Boy Scouts of America Lake Arrowhead Scout Camps (now Forest Lawn camps - yeah those people))circa previous 1960 (just in time to be influenced by the film) a fire went through the mountainous area (fifty years later and fire is still part of the fire-ecology of the area) and one of the three camps "Cedar" was burned...the other two camp staffs "Bighorn" and "Pepperdine" would sing the following parody. Cedar - with all its burnt out trees Cedar - looks like a big disease Cedar - oh, you can beat her With either Bighorn or Pepperdine. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: Mrs Scarecrow Date: 04 Nov 09 - 03:36 PM I am more than a little surprised to read Guest Pinette Atkinsons posting as far as I am aware the only daughter of Keneth J Alford who went to South Africa was my mother who went there with her own mother who moved there after my Grandfathers death. I believe My own mother was only there for a year or so. I am her first child and I have 2 younger brothers. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: frogprince Date: 04 Nov 09 - 10:10 AM Wondered, when this came up, if anyone was going to come up with the "Bullshit" lyric; all I ever heard was, "Bullshit, it makes the grass grow green". |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: meself Date: 04 Nov 09 - 10:05 AM It was the tune of a commercial jingle from the 'sixties: Winners, warm up with Maltomeal, ...... That's all I remember, thankfully. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: GUEST,Pinette Atkinson Date: 04 Nov 09 - 08:55 AM Could the person (mudcat.org) who said they were related to Kenneth J Alford (paternal grandfather) please contact me. My husbands family are descendant of Kenneth J Alford's daughter who moved to South Africa. This is the only link I have been able to find so am looking very forward to hearing from you. Could you please communicate via my e-mail pinette@pagegroup.co.bw looking forward to hearing from you Regards Pinette Atkinson |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: dick greenhaus Date: 03 Jul 09 - 12:32 PM In 47, we sang: Bullshit! That's all the band could play. Bullshit! They play it it every day. Bullshit! Ta-ra-ra Bullshit! Ta-ra-ra Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! It makes the grass grow tall Bullshit! Enough for one and all etc. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: GUEST,empeejay Date: 03 Jul 09 - 08:41 AM As a child, I remember an obviously sanitized version of Col Bogey that reached India during WW II, courtesy the tommies and GIs I guess. It went something like this: Chorus: Good luck to the boys in navy blue The army and the airforce too Good luck to women volunteers etc. etc. And the verse: Hitler, we're marching on your tail Hitler, no wonder you turn pale Goering, the lion is roaring etc Etc |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: Severn Date: 22 Nov 08 - 05:02 PM There were Army lyrics circa the Vietnam War about reenlisting bonus money that started: "Re-up, and buy a brand new car....." But alas I never could remember the whole thing. In WWII, my dad sung it as: "Bullshit, will make the grass grow tall...." but that's the only line I ever heard him sing. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: bubblyrat Date: 22 Nov 08 - 04:05 PM By a Jew (I hope ! ) |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: GUEST,Fred McCormick (cookieless) Date: 22 Nov 08 - 03:20 PM According to an article in today's Independent, Hitler really did have only one ball. The other was shot away in the first world war. |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: Mrs Scarecrow Date: 22 Nov 08 - 11:34 AM I followed a link on a thread Hitler has only got one ball I did not mean to split this off |
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Subject: RE: Col Bogey march question From: Mrs Scarecrow Date: 22 Nov 08 - 11:30 AM I dont know if it is of interest but Kenneth J Alford was my maternal grandfather nad family tradtion has it that the inspiration for Col Bogey came from the whistling of a blackbird that he heard and whistle back to whilst playing golf Ann Reader |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 18 May 02 - 01:17 AM PLEASE post the URL address
IF you choose to use the "blue-clicky" please post the URL below it.
It is a major pain to sort through source code for your links.
Sincerely, |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: Jacob B Date: 17 May 02 - 10:53 PM There is also the Ajax version, which was learned in 1st or 2nd grade, which goes as follows: Ajax, it makes your mouth turn blue, Ajax, it tastes like doo, doo, doo, Ajax, it makes you pay tax, So get some Ajax, and pay tax, today! Nancy (on Jacob's cookie) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: Irish sergeant Date: 17 May 02 - 04:40 PM Hitler was weird enough without only having one testicle. To my knowledge,(pursuiant to research on a novel) he had both mind you I didn't personally check! I remember the "Comet" version of Colonel Bogey's March and singing it when I was in maybe the first grade. The Hitler Lyrics I learned later were: Hitler, he only had one ball/ goering had two but very small/Himmler he had the simliar/ and Doctor Geobbells had no balls at all. Kindest regards, Neil |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: Kenny B (inactive) Date: 11 May 02 - 11:47 AM Sing us another one do? Intro In came the colonel's daughter dressed in postage stamps And singing....... Horace! you've made a mess of me, Horace! You'll have to marry me, Horace! we'll call him Boris, And there'll be Horace & Boris & me usv TTFN Kenny B
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: Geoff the Duck Date: 10 May 02 - 06:19 PM I suspect that Mizchuck should not worry about singing the bawdy set of lyrics - the kids probably know htem already - and if they don't, it should be a useful history lesson for them ;@) The version of the Hitler song which I grew up with was slightly different, but not much! Hitler has only got one ball The other is locked in Cartwright Hall His mother, the dirty bugger Took the other, when Hitler was small!!! [Cartwright Hall is a local museum/art gallery in a local park] Strange how the true oral/aural tradition (childrens' dirty songs)tends to localise things, isn't it! Quack!!!!! Geoff the Duck! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: dick greenhaus Date: 10 May 02 - 05:41 PM In 19 ought 47, the Columbia Band sang: Bullshit! It's all the band could play Bullshit! They played it every day Bullshit! Ta-ra-ra Bullshit! Ta-ra-ra Bulshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! It wasn't new then,. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: GUEST,Don Date: 10 May 02 - 09:57 AM My wife introduced me to the following member of the canon: Comet, it gets your bathroom clean. Comet, it tastes like Listerine. Comet, it makes you vomit, so buy some comet, and vomit, today. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: The Walrus at work Date: 10 May 02 - 08:43 AM The Great War period lyrics seem to have revolved around the line "Bollocks - And the same to you"
Galton and Simpson in one "Steptoe and Son" episode had the following exchange (Harold's replys being sung to the tune of Colonel Bogey"
My own Father, a pre-WW2 conscript, remembered a set of lyrics to the introduction to Colonel Bogey
"Don't claw his eyes out Maggie, Hope this is of use. Walrus |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: Steve Parkes Date: 10 May 02 - 07:56 AM The "one ball" verse was written early in WWII by Hubert Gregg (still going strong), who also penned such gems as "Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner" and the witty wartime hit "I'm going to get lit up when the lights goo up in London". His Colonel B lyric was prbably a great contribution to the war effort, and was approved by the War Office. Understandably, it was "anon" at the time, being unsuitable for polite company, and not good for the reputation of a gentleman, even one who wrote and performed popular songs. He finally came out of the closet a few years ago, by which time it was no greatsecret anyway. Steve |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: Nigel Parsons Date: 10 May 02 - 04:06 AM Unfortunately, I can't remember which "filker" wrote this. But, in keeping with this thread, and with the recent release of the first part of the Lord of The Rings film:
Sauron, he's only got nine rings |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: Joe_F Date: 09 May 02 - 04:10 PM Here is another bizarre story that may actually be true (I forget where I read it): When Hitler was a boy, the family doctor was Jewish. When Hitler came to power, he gave the doctor safe conduct, and the latter settled in New York City, where he was interviewed during the war about the rumor. According to him, Hitler's genitals, at least in childhood, were normal. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: catspaw49 Date: 09 May 02 - 03:13 PM Let's see Les...... There is this info Or is it this? Then there's this Entering "Hitler" "testicle" together on Google got 1540 hits Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: Les from Hull Date: 09 May 02 - 02:58 PM Further to this would anyone care to speculate that Hitler, Mao and Napoleon only had one testicle (each, that is!) Or is it just our way of denigrating other countries' leaders? And if that is the case, is that the worse thing that we can think to say about them? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: Les from Hull Date: 09 May 02 - 02:48 PM We also had schoolboy words in the 50s Bollocks, they make a damn good stew Bollocks, are very good for you... There were probably more, but it was a very long time ago |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: masato sakurai Date: 09 May 02 - 11:13 AM Sample page of "Colonel Bogey March" score |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: masato sakurai Date: 09 May 02 - 11:04 AM More lyrics to the "Hitler" version (Click here). ~Masato
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: GUEST,Midchuck downstairs Date: 09 May 02 - 10:57 AM All right! I figured someone would know, if there was a definitive answer. Thanks much, Peter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: masato sakurai Date: 09 May 02 - 10:36 AM "Colonel Bogey" march was composed by Kenneth J. Alford (whose real name was Frederick J. Ricketts, 1881-1945) for military band in 1914 (info from James J. Fuld, The Book of World-Famous Music). The lyrics in question was written much later. ~Masato |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: toadfrog Date: 09 May 02 - 10:35 AM It was a formal, composed march. Composed by a Lieutenant F.L. Ricketts in 1914, and extremely well known well before WW II. Normally the folk process does not work the way described. It had lots of World War II lyrics: Cheer up, and the same to you! Good luck, in every thing you do! Cheer up, the skies will clear up! And Britain's boys will come home once again! Here's a health to the boys in Navy blue! The Army and the Airforce, too! Here's a health to the Women's Volunteers, They all deserve three hearty cheers! Etc. Those lyrics may well be older than the ones about hitler and his bal. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: artbrooks Date: 09 May 02 - 10:34 AM Once again Catspaw is faster than me! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: artbrooks Date: 09 May 02 - 10:33 AM
Midchuck, this information is available HERE. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Col Bogey march question From: catspaw49 Date: 09 May 02 - 10:29 AM Some info here and as you can see it was written in WWI not WWII. I doubt if there were any "original" lyrics as many marches had none. But it does lend itself easily to any number of rips! I'll be interested to see if any originals do exist too. Spaw |
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Subject: Col Bogey march question From: Midchuck Date: 09 May 02 - 10:15 AM My wife, the Mizchuck, came home today and mentioned that the school marching band was practicing the march that was used as the theme music in The Bridge Over the River Kwai, and it made her nervous because she was afraid she might forget she was in school, and start to sing the original lyrics (we're not talking "My beer, is Rheingold extra dry...." here, folks!) along with it in the halls, which would be bad for her professional image as a teacher. It got us to wondering. Is that tune a formal, composed march, that the lyrics on the DT got put to later, or was it composed along with the lyrics, by the folk process, presumably early on in WWII, and became a "legitimate" march that high school bands play later on, perhaps because of its use in the movie? Does anyone know? Peter. |
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