 sj |
||
|
||
BS: Smear Obama Here...
|
|
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Bobert Date: 07 Jun 08 - 07:55 PM Now, now, now, Fantz... This is my thread and it ain't for smearin' Obama supporters but Obama himself... Don't make me ask Joe to send you to yer room, now... Awww, jus funnin'... If you wanta smear Obama's supporters then as the creater of this thread you jus have at it... You tell Joe I said it is okay in my book... B~ |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,dianavan Date: 07 Jun 08 - 11:07 PM He's a fast talker with expensive suits. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Little Hawk Date: 07 Jun 08 - 11:49 PM He smiles too much! You can't trust people who smile all the time. I want Nixon back, shaking his jowls and scowling. ;-) |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Amos Date: 08 Jun 08 - 12:13 AM Well, if it is any comfort, Fantz, I don't fear you OR Joe. So there. A |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: akenaton Date: 08 Jun 08 - 04:50 AM Why are all guest Fantasma's posts being deleted? The members seem to respond to them fairly well while they are on the board. Joe, I think you taking this too far, we are not children!
-Joe- |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,lox Date: 08 Jun 08 - 05:48 AM What's that peace? You used spam? You should've given your dog the spam and kept the porkchops for yourself! |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,lox Date: 08 Jun 08 - 06:25 AM I'd like you a whole lot more if only I thought you had some pork chops. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,lox Date: 08 Jun 08 - 06:36 AM Hey ... you haven't been smearing Obama with Spam have you? |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: bankley Date: 08 Jun 08 - 08:35 AM even if he sneaks around about it and is married, Obama enjoys the occasional fag... (cigarette, that is) |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 08 Jun 08 - 09:44 AM As far as I know, Obama has not claimed to have had direct contact with beings from another planet. The fact that such beings find him unworthy of contact automatically makes him unworthy of being President. On the other hand, if he did claim to have had direct contact with beings from another planet he'd be a whacked out nut case and, therefore, unworthy of being President. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: heric Date: 08 Jun 08 - 09:52 AM He's mever admitted to being attacked by a rabbit, hitting someone in the head with a golfball, smashing his head when extiting an airplane, or throwing up at a State dinner -- which means he is entirely lacking in the requiste entertainment value expected of a President. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: heric Date: 08 Jun 08 - 10:01 AM He can't even say nuculur -- a subtle but revealing indicator that he's not as American as he should be. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: bankley Date: 08 Jun 08 - 11:05 AM is conspiring with Billy Bob Thornton and Randy Owen to start a Southern Roots/Country band called Alobama, which will just be a front for pure Yankee "Barack and Roll" but he's better with a mic than Billy Bob |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Peace Date: 08 Jun 08 - 01:05 PM There it is, Lox. This will be very sublime, so STAY WITH ME! Spam pizza. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Rapparee Date: 08 Jun 08 - 01:34 PM He's never called and asked me for MY opinion on anything. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: bankley Date: 08 Jun 08 - 02:05 PM well, what do you expect from someone whose name ends with a vowel ? then there was Kennedy, but they only used a part-time vowel... and SPAM is MAPS spelled backwards.... a conspiracy brewing... |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 08 Jun 08 - 02:50 PM More Spam is consumed, per capita, in Hawaii than anyplace else in the U.S. Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. I'll say no more lest I be labeled some sort of whacko conspiracy theorist. You may draw your own conclusions. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Peace Date: 08 Jun 08 - 03:06 PM I seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee . . . |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: autolycus Date: 08 Jun 08 - 04:04 PM He's not b;lack; he's not white; have another go. Unfortunately, he's a human being. No human being is going to get a universal thumbs-up, solved OUR problems, be G-d. The hunt for an error-free-politician is as useful as for an error-free person. Yours humorously ot humour-free, depending Ivor |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Azizi Date: 08 Jun 08 - 05:00 PM It amazes me that some people are still going on about Barack Obama's racial identity. "He's not b;lack [sic]; he's not white; have another go".??!! Obama's not Black?! Says who?? Surely not Barack Obama. I consider Kendall's comment that "he's [Baracka Obama]half white" to be interesting phrasing since for a long time in the United States an individual was either considered to be all White, or not White at all. Racially mixed people with Black/White ancestry were called "half Black" but never "half White". Perhaps that custom is changing. But the only reason why Obama and other Black Americans who have one Black birth parent and one White birth parent aren't considered White is because of the United States' racist one drop of "black blood" rule. Actually, in a sane world Barack Obama would be considered to be Black and he would also be considered to be White. Not that his racial identity or anyone else's racial identity would matter in a sane world. However, the fact of the matter is that according to the way the USA socially defines racial identity at this time Barack Obama is Black. And Barack Obama's election as the Democratic party's nominee for President is a historical occurance for African Americans and for all other Americans. And when, God willing, Senator Barack Obama is elected President of the USA, he won't be the Black President or the White President or the half-white President. When he wins this election, Barack Obama won't be or the half-black President or the racially mixed President. BHe will be the President of the United States of America. Barack Obama will be the President of all of the people in the United States equally regardless of our race, ethnicity, gender, sexually orientation, income, age, and/or our religion or our lack of religion. Some people may not be ready for a new day, but a change is still gonna come. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: akenaton Date: 08 Jun 08 - 05:11 PM Don't hold your breath. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 08 Jun 08 - 05:25 PM The man's got a beard like a commie Cuban - it's just that he conceals it by shaving every day. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: autolycus Date: 08 Jun 08 - 06:01 PM Azizi I'd prefer to just talk of candidates, not red, yellow or green ot aNy other colour ones. I was just making a small amendment. It's different in the US, I gather, but here in the UK, we used to use the phrase 'mixed race' for someone with mixed parentage. Actually, we're all 'mixed race', and cousins of each other. These are guerilla tactics in this questionable thread. Still a humourous, therapist-cum-philosopher-cum-Spurs supporter-cum-left/hander-cum-book collector - cum- occasional Guardian reader - cum - supporter of the BBC would say that, wouldn't I? Should we have threads to smear posters? Course not. Ivor |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: EBarnacle Date: 08 Jun 08 - 07:59 PM He's a politician who wants to change the world and become a statesman. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Amos Date: 08 Jun 08 - 08:10 PM I think Obama's election to the WHite House is going to make an important, fundamental change in the future track of this country and, indirectly, of the world. It will be interesting times, that much is for sure. The convergence of upcoming technical advances and a re-balancing of the economy with a stronger basic bloc and less emphasis on hyperactivity and derivatives, instead of basic productivity, will gradually restore strength tot he economy and between these two vectors and his sense of perspective, I think some positive things will appear. A |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Peace Date: 08 Jun 08 - 08:13 PM I think he'll do a great job despite being a bit weak on foreign policy, not that the present president is an example to follow. IMO, no place for the US to go but up. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 08 Jun 08 - 08:14 PM Mixed parentage is the general pattern in most places. A mother and a father. .......................... You'll note Obama has never denied that he is a vampire. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Bobert Date: 08 Jun 08 - 08:27 PM Bad Amos and Peace... This is the official "Obama Smear" thread... Stay on topic, please... There are plenty other threads about Barak's talents and all that... And I support Obama but... ... we do have to keep this thread pure fir the knotheads... Know what I mean??? B~ |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: heric Date: 08 Jun 08 - 08:39 PM Thank you, Norbert. Obama went to Pakistan. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Ebbie Date: 08 Jun 08 - 08:46 PM While there, he may have talked to the American ambassador. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: bobad Date: 08 Jun 08 - 09:00 PM HAD A PET APE AS A CHILD: Obama lived in Indonesia for nearly five years as a child and had a pet ape named Tata. He also sampled exotic foods — dog, snake and grasshopper. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: bobad Date: 08 Jun 08 - 09:03 PM According to Barack Obama in an interview on 1/18/2008 his favorite food is from Italian Fiesta Pizzeria in Hyde Park, Chicago, IL. We know what that means, don't we - FUGGETABOUTIT! |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Ed T Date: 08 Jun 08 - 09:33 PM If he's never been to a Tim Horton's, how can he expect to get the Canadian vote? He did not capture a single Canadian delegate (or even a super delegate) during the primaries. McCain's subliminal association with frozen french fries could help him at the Canadian ballot boxes during election time. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: autolycus Date: 09 Jun 08 - 01:50 AM WHY CANNOT KNOTHEADS START THEIR OWN THREADS? Oh. because they're knotheads (whatever that is)? Ivor |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Stringsinger Date: 09 Jun 08 - 05:21 PM He has stated and I paraphrase, "Religion should not be left out of the public arena". Sounds like an intent to fuse Church and State. I don't think Obama likes non-believers. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Riginslinger Date: 09 Jun 08 - 05:24 PM Hear hear! |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Ebbie Date: 09 Jun 08 - 06:31 PM "I don't think Obama likes non-believers". That's quite a leap from the little that we know. Unless your hypothesis is that he really didn't care for or respect his mother. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Amos Date: 09 Jun 08 - 06:52 PM I'd like to see the actual quote, as I haven't seen it. In its correct context I think the chances are good your paraphrase is an alteration. A |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,lox Date: 09 Jun 08 - 08:36 PM "religion should not be left out of the public arena" to leave any individual or group out of the public arena is undemocratic and descriminatory. Democracy is inclusive by it's very nature. I'm not religious but I believe every point of view has the right to be represented. I condemn any attempt to exclude any group or individual from the democratic process. Stringsinger and Riginslinger, it is interesting how such purportedly progressive and modern viewpoints as yours turn out on closer examination to be merely reactonary and politically backward. Clutching at straws ... bitter twisted and sad. Thankfully you represent a fading era. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: heric Date: 09 Jun 08 - 09:08 PM A mystery is developing, arising from on obscured and contentious factual assertions. Looks like a job for heric This appears to be a reference to a speech by Obama June, 2006 at a conference sponsored by progressive evangelicals. He apparently said (again paraphrased): "Obama's three points were presented as 'some truths' or 'ground rules' fostering civility and effective political compromise in the public arena of a democracy. 1. Leaders must understand and appreciate the critically important role that the separation of church and state 'has played in preserving not only our democracy, but the robustness of our religious practice.' 2. When the religiously motivated attempt to influence public policy they must be prepared to argue from universal, rational values and insights that are open to debate. Obama's point is quite clear and very specific – 'I may be opposed to abortion for religious reasons, but if I seek to pass a law banning the practice, I cannot simply point to the teachings of my church or evoke God's will. I have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths, including those with no faith at all.' 3. Harmonious interactions between religiously motivated public political activity and the multiple realities of democratic pluralism require what Obama calls a 'sense of proportion.' He argues that not every public citing of God is a breach in the divide between church and state. His advice is a cautionary word to those who react with indignant outrage at the use of school property by voluntary student prayer groups or the recital of the Pledge of Allegiance phrase 'under God.' The coercive impact of such events and phrases Obama suggests need to be seen in context and proportion. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Ron Davies Date: 09 Jun 08 - 10:29 PM There also seem to be some who are trying to muddle the clear differences between Obama and McCain on the separation of church and state. McCain said (9-2007) "the Constitution established the United States of America as a Christian nation". When immigrants come here "they know they are in a nation founded on Christian principles". Source: Pew Center Obama's views are rather different, as indicated already in this thread. Anybody thinking of not supporting Obama should research further what McCain believes on this issue. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Riginslinger Date: 09 Jun 08 - 11:05 PM Well, of course, a guy could not support Obama, and not support McCain at the same time. There are other candidates out there. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Little Hawk Date: 09 Jun 08 - 11:29 PM That's right. Chongo, for instance. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 10 Jun 08 - 07:41 PM Back to smears. Shakespeare might have been describing him: Yon Cassius has a lean and hungry look. He thinks too much. Such men are dangerous... And the elitist Obama would recognise that quote too. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Mrrzy Date: 10 Jun 08 - 08:22 PM Thread title sounded a little kinky to meee... |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Ebbie Date: 10 Jun 08 - 08:47 PM Mrrzy! lol |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: DannyC Date: 11 Jun 08 - 04:14 PM ** WARNING ** AMERICAN DOMINIONIST-FASCIST CONTENT *** Here's a posting I received here in America's Heartland... as you will see, the dull-wits known as the American Right are getting organized. You might also note that it is rabies season in these parts. I send this without edits of any kind. I would like to publicly thank the idiot who had forwarded the message to me: If our nation elects Obama as president - we had better buckle our seat belts - the ride is going to be rough! This will be a time when we, as Christians, need to be/become vocal or else we will get what we deserve. Bill Brown, is a highly respected retired member of the Billy Graham team. So, I take his assessment of Obama very seriously and for that reason accept his challenge to pass this on. I share his concern about the 'rock star' image Obama has and watch with growing concern at the celebrity status the media has foisted upon him. Here is hope this email informs you in a wise way. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We are witnessing a political phenomenon with Barack Obama of rare magnitude. His speeches have inspired millions and yet most of his followers have no idea of what he stands for except platitudes of 'Change' or that he says he will be a 'Uniteder'. The power of speech from a charismatic person truly can be a powerful thing. Certainly Billy Graham had charisma and both his manner of speech and particularly the content changed millions. On the extreme other hand, the charisma of Adolph Hitler inspired millions and the results were catastrophic. Barack Obama certainly is no Hitler or a Billy Graham, but for many Americans out there feeling just like a surfer who might be ecstatic and euphoric while riding a tidal wave, the real story is what happens when it hits shore . Just Some of What Defines Barack Obama: · He voted against banning partial birth abortion. · He voted no on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. · Supports affirmative action in Colleges and Government. · In 2001 he questioned harsh penalties for drug dealing. · Says he will deal with street level drug dealing as minimum wage affair. · Admitted marijuana and cocaine use in high school and in college. · His religious convictions are very murky. · He is willing to meet with Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jung Il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. · Has said that one of his first goals after being elected would be to have a conference with all Muslim nations. · Opposed the Patriot Act. · First bill he signed that was passed was campaign finance reform. · Voted No on prohibiting law suits against gun manufacturers. · Supports universal health-care. · Voted yes on providing habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees. · Supports granting driver's license to illegal immigrants. · Supports extending welfare to illegal immigrants. · Voted yes on comprehensive immigration reform. · Voted yes on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. · Wants to make the minimum wage a 'living wage'. · Voted with Democratic Party 96 percent of 251 votes. · Is a big believer in the separation of church and state. · Opposed to any efforts to Privatize Social Security and instead supports increasing the amount of tax paid. · He voted No on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax. · He voted No on repealing the 'Death' Tax. · He wants to raise the Capital Gains Tax. · Has repeatedly said the surge in Iraq has not succeeded.... · He is ranked as the most liberal Senator in the Senate today and that takes some doing. If your political choices are consistent with Barack Obama's and you think that his positions will bring America together or make it a better place, then you will probably enjoy the ride and not forward this Email. If you are like most Americans that after examining what he stands for, are truly not in line with his record, it would be prudent to get off the wave or better yet, never get on, before it comes on shore and undermines the very foundations of this great Country. We have limited time to save America or the Supreme Court as we know it. Inaction is action. If you agree this is important, pass it on. The mainstream media will not do it for you! Bill Brown MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Ron Davies Date: 11 Jun 08 - 09:48 PM Re: supporting neither Obama nor McCain. "There are other candidates". For somebody in denial, yes. Anybody who does not back what McCain stands for has only one choice: Obama. Otherwise he or she is likely to see President McCain. If that's fine with you, great. But in that case let's have no whining about what President McCain does--and that he will act on his belief that the US was founded as a Christian nation, and appoint Supreme Court justices who also believe this. And he will continue the Iraq war til "victory". Etc. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Riginslinger Date: 11 Jun 08 - 09:57 PM It's probably reasonable to assume that a voter who finds himself/herself voting for a third party candidate will discover there is a counter vote out there for some other third party candidate, so it doesn't follow that if you are not voting for one of the major party candidates, you are casting a vote for McCain. Myself, for instance, I'm registered "Green." If I vote for the Green Party candidate, somebody else will vote for the Libertarian candidate. We can both take comfort in the fact that neither one of us did anything to advance the insanity that the two major parties are trying so desperately to impose on the American people. |
|
Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Ron Davies Date: 11 Jun 08 - 10:06 PM In a close election, as many recently have been, a minor candidate can easily make the difference. Perhaps people have forgotten the 2000 election. The only way to prevent a similar event is to vote for the major party candidate who reflects your positions more than the other major party candidate. It ain't rocket science--except to those in denial. |
