BS: Election results

Subject: BS: Election results
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 04:16 PM

As news comes in please post results here.

So far the only race that is final is that Kerry lost again.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 07:13 PM

Could be quite awhile before we know anything...apparently there are voting machines problems everywhere and challenges to them as well. we need to go back to pen and paper ballots.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: curmudgeon
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 07:28 PM

NPR has declared Bernie Sanders, Independat (Socialist) Vt. to be the winner for the senate seat.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Peace
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 07:30 PM

YEAH!

That's 1.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: GUEST,John O'L
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 07:34 PM

Even if the machines are on the level, which appears to be questionable at least, there seem to be so many malfunctions it will be impossible to get a believable result anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: artbrooks
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 08:22 PM

Kat, New Mexico has pen and paper ballots.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 08:27 PM

And Idaho uses "fill in the ovals" for everyone except those who can't because of physical handicap -- or at least in this part of the state.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 08:31 PM

We have a boatload of problems here, both large and small. Ohio is really under the microscope owing to past frauds problems. No results will be reported til after 9 PM because a judge ordered polls in Cuyahoga county (Cleveland) to stay open until then because of problems getting underway this morning with voters in long lines and going home.

Even with no returns in yet, NBC is already calling the Governor's race for the Democrat, Strickland. The GOP    asshole   dork    dickhead    broke-dick mook   buffoon (Blackwell) was the guy in charge of the last botched election and nobody wants his dumbass except of course the few really hardline Repubs.

I fully expect Sherrod Brown to unseat the Repub Mike DeWine in the US Senate race. He was leading the polls by a wide margin, almost as great as Strickland led over Blackwell.


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 08:33 PM

What are the exit polls saying so far?

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 08:40 PM

Well, Ohio is gonna have a new gov, too. Taft is...dead meat and was rotten before the election. The Noe thing was just one nail in his coffin.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 08:41 PM

Basically Richard, it looks to be a good night for Dems, much of that owing to the overwhelming negativity about the Iraq war. Bush's approval rating is waaaay down and by a wide margin polls are saying that there is great disapproval of the war.

Interestingly his brother Jeb is twice as popular as the Resident. With any luck this election will make the final years of his residency pass without further losses of what this country is really all about, or at least wants to be.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 08:44 PM

Yeah Rap.....I said that above. NBC called the election for Strickland without any results in yet.

Taft is the last gasp of "Taft Republicanism" and the worst gov we have had in a coon's age.....a complete horse's ass.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 08:46 PM

The biggie for me is Virginia where I voted for my first Dem since Jimmy Carter...

But Virginians are about eat up stupid when it comes to votin'...

Ahhhh, let me change that... Other than Richmond and Northern Virginians, Virginians are about eat up stupid.... period... Bunch of rednecks...

But they is also my neigbors so like what's a guy to do??? Move back to Wes Ginny???

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 08:53 PM

+1 Dem in the Senate for PA.

Bye bye Santorum!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 08:59 PM

I lived in Ohio 1971-1984 and lived in the Cincy area from 2000 to 2003. Ohio govs haven't been much to rave about. And good riddance to the Tafts!

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 09:10 PM

Why Rap....What about Jim Rhodes? He sent the troops to Kent State and had those lovely arches installed at the entrances to Ohio. AND although he kept running up against a brick wall, he tried, I mean he really tried............to build a bridge across Lake Erie. And there was John Gilligan, who should have stayed on the island with the Skipper.

Yeah, we've had some real doozies.............

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 09:44 PM

Just before I moved to Indiana from Ohio I understand that the genital area of the statue of Jim Rhodes (gallantly carrying a briefcase!) in front of the capitol in Columbus was being painted bright blue. The State Patrol did a stakeout but never did catch the perpetrator.

'Spaw, you wouldn't know anything about that, would you?

(Our library also, courtesy of Jimmy Rhodes, received a copy of the song "Because I Love Ohio." All I (fortunately!) remember about it was the chorus, "Because, because I love Ohio," and that the flip side of the 45 disc had the same song in a calypso beat. Your tax money at work....)

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 09:56 PM

LMAO...........ohgawd..................."And if I laugh at any mortal thing, tis that I may not weep."

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 10:07 PM

One of our congressional seats (District 2) is being flipped from R to D. Another (District 1) was supposed to be solidly R, and the first time running, progressive D going against the incumbent had spent very little money on her campaign. They both have 50% of the votes, with 65% of precincts reporting. Of course, the R has 1,070 more votes. Even if the guy wins as expected, I think his world has been successfully rocked.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: kendall
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 10:16 PM

Rep. Tom Allen D has been projected the winner.
Senator Snowe R is a sure winner.
Mike Michaud D winner in the second district. We only have two districts, keeps fraud to a minimum, and the paper ballots help.
Gov. Baldacci D incumbent projected winner.

It may not be a democrat bloodbath, but the repubs. are going to be anemic.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 10:25 PM

HA! 73% of the precincts in, and Carol Shea-Porter is now 479 votes ahead of Jeb Bradley. I really need to go to sleep...

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: NH Dave
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 10:30 PM

Yeppers, and Charley Bass just gave up the election. This could be a total sweep of the two House seats, if Carol Shea-Porter knocks Jeb Bradley out of the race. Our GOP party chair was just on the tubs saying that it looks as if Bush will be the lamest of lameducks for the next two years!!!

Dave

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 10:33 PM

Doesn't look like a landslide victory for the Dems at this point in the race.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 10:44 PM

artbrooks...lucky New Mexico and, Rapaire, Idaho, too! I've heard reports about Colorado having the worst problems of the whole country, today, esp. in the Denver area. There also seems to be some voter intimidation rumours:

DENVER -- At least two Hispanic voters in Weld County say they received calls from people telling them they might get arrested if they voted.

Jesus Torres of Evans said he received a call about two weeks ago and the man told him he would go to jail and be charged with a felony if he voted. Torres, 47, has been a U.S. citizen for 15 years and voted for the first time this year.

More about such things across the nation HERE.

So far, in CO, it's too soon and too close to tell much, except that we will keep our Dem Senator Slazar, thank goodness!

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 10:59 PM

Just announced on BBC News 24 that Dems have "broken" the House - they've taken over.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 11:10 PM

It looks that way. Senate is a tight one at this time.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 11:18 PM

NPR hasn't called it yet. Let's let the local talent make the call over the specatators across the pond.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 11:21 PM

10:20pm Central--Linda Werthheimer of National Public Radio just said that as of now NPR projects the Democrats will take the house. They have won 15 seats that were Republican.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 11:40 PM

I've heard Rove has phoned Mr. Bush to inform of the 'House'. Apparently he has not been watching the results. Needless to say he is said to be quite upset and will give a news conference tomorrow at 1:00 est.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 12:53 AM

Well, southern Arizona is sending new Democrat to Congress, Gabrielle Giffords. (Baja Arizonans, unite!) Unfortunately, kept John Kyl (R) in, though.

We had a record 19 propositions on the ballot:

Bad results (as far as I'm concerned) on several mean anti-immigration props, including voting in English as the official language again (in spite of its being deemed unconstitutional last time). I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. Sigh.

On the plus side, we do seem to have passed a strong state-wide anti-smoking measure (making the rest of the state more like Tucson on that front), and knocked down a constitutional amendment for "man-woman-only" marriage (of course, there's alread a statute to that effect, anyway). Also a strong measure for land conservation. And, a state-wide minimum wage raise, which surprises me, pleasantly.

~ Becky in Tucson

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 01:04 AM

It is a sad day for America. I believe that the Democrats will destroy the soul of the country. But this too shall pass.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 01:08 AM

The John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 was passed unanimously in the Senate (all Democrats voted for it), and it was passed with 398 votes in the House (93% voted for it). Bush signed this on the same day he signed the Constitution-killing Military Commissions Act. Read on to see what the Defense Authorization Act does:

Bush legalizes martial law -- what Constitution?

On Oct 17, George Bush quietly signed a bill allowing him to declare martial law. The Toward Freedom website summarizes it:

For the current President, "enforcement of the laws to restore public order" means to commandeer guardsmen from any state, over the objections of local governmental, military and local police entities; ship them off to another state; conscript them in a law enforcement mode; and set them loose against "disorderly" citizenry - protesters, possibly, or those who object to forced vaccinations and quarantines in the event of a bio-terror event.

The law also facilitates militarized police round-ups and detention of protesters, so called "illegal aliens," "potential terrorists" and other "undesirables" for detention in facilities already contracted for and under construction by Halliburton. That's right. Under the cover of a trumped-up "immigration emergency" and the frenzied militarization of the southern border, detention camps are being constructed right under our noses, camps designed for anyone who resists the foreign and domestic agenda of the Bush administration.

It's easy to get scabbed over about the Bush White House's assault on the Bill of Rights, but every now and again, they rip loose with an attack so egregious, it rips the scab right off. Between the right-to-torture bill and this one, it's clear that Bush intends to bring back the pork-politics glory of the Cold War by reinventing the Soviet Union on American soil.

http://www.outpostnine.com/forum/showthread.php?p=282739

So, the Republicans have won a great victory tonight. The unified party in America has duped Democrats into thinking things will change. 100% of the Senate and 93% of the House voted for the above. Read it again.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 01:16 AM

You really ought to get help, Janet...nothing but negative doom and gloom from you...must be a miserable life.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Ron Davies
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 01:26 AM

John--


"The Democrats will destroy the soul of the country". Interesting. It would be nice if you could provide some evidence--otherwise that sounds amazingly like absurd apocalyptic pontificating. And I'm sure you wouldn't want to convey that impression.






Meanwhile---this thing is just too amazing. At this point, about 2,000 votes separate Allen and Webb in Virginia. Unless things change drastically, it's likely we won't have an answer on that crucial Senate race til December. And at this point Webb is ahead. Truly stunning. So Bobert--don't write off your fellow Virginians as yahoos just yet. I just heard Pat Buchanan say the blue tide is coming into Virginia--and he may have to leave McLean to get away from it.

And Claire McCaskill now has a bit of a lead in Missouri--and may keep it---since the big cities--Kansas City and what is it--St Louis?-- are only now reporting. And that sure does throw my theory out the window--I always thought cities were first to report and the far-flung rural areas were last.

And Burns is behind in Montana.

And the Democrats have already taken Santorum's seat in Pennsylvania, Chafee's seat in Rhode Island, and DeWine's seat in Ohio.

So at this point it is definitely possible that the Democrats could take the Senate outright.

It's already clear that Bush, having lost the House--and 3 Senate seats so far, will be the lamest duck we've seen in awhile.

So it seems the US voting public has woken up--finally.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Ron Davies
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 01:27 AM

And all the fashionably dire predictions about how Diebold will steal this election--again--will have to be, shall we say, adjusted.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 01:58 AM

Almost an aside:

In Kansas, and I believe in many places, one is legally entitled to elect whether to use the voting machine or a paper ballot.

I was clearly informed that this choice was available when I signed in to vote; but when it came my turn I was just led to the machine and was never asked if I'd like a paper ballot.

As to the "touch-screen" voting machines, I found the "touch" extremely sensitive. If you weren't really careful it could detect the wandering finger that was "close to" the screen and enter your vote for that one before "you gave them the real finger" you meant to use.

Once "selected," you had to "touch" that candidate a second time to toggle the selection, before you could "touch" your real choice. Some of the attendants understood this "feature" but others were needing help with it in order to help the confused voters.

The only real glitch reported in my area was that the voting machines all turned themselves off precisely at 7:00 pm when voting closed. The law is clear that anyone in the polling place is to be allowed to complete their voting, but it did take a while to get them turned back on (doesn't this suggest tampering is possible?) to allow those in line to vote.

It appears, from early reports, that incumbent Republican US Representative Jim Ryun probably has been defeated; but the results I've seen are too preliminary to be very reliable. My local newspaper site reports that he's lost, but doesn't say how many votes have been counted at this point.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 03:20 AM

It is beginning to look as if the USA may (2 seats in the senate may need to go to 100% manual recount) have recovered its liberty from a tyranny worse than George III!

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 03:27 AM

Don't get too excited folks...
Remember the Dems supported Bush in the run up to Iraq...and during the invasion.
Dont trust them.
Blair has led a so called "Liberal" govt in the UK for years, bringing in policies and involving us in a war which the Conservatives could never have persuaded the UK electorate to support.


Beware especially of Mrs Clinton....a she-wolf in sheeps clothing..Ake

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Terry K
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 04:10 AM

Agreed Ake - for the life of me I can't ever tell the difference between the US parties, at least in terms of world policy. They all seem to operate in some kind of parallel universe, restricted by religion and the flag, positively refusing to acknowledge the rest of the world exists, oblivious to the metric system, driving on the wrong side etc etc. And I'm still amazed they never gave John Wayne a crack at being president.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 04:18 AM

I'm sure I remember at least five US presidents wearing "cowboy hats"

Does that count for NOTHING!!

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Peace
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 06:01 AM

"It is a sad day for America. I believe that the Democrats will destroy the soul of the country."

I think in many ways that the US has had its soul ripped apart in the past six years. It may be finding it again.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Ron Davies
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 07:52 AM

" Dems supported Bush in the run-up to the Iraq war...."

1) Some did, some didn't.

2) We've discussed this ad nauseam already--the Bush regime ran a masterful propaganda campaign--in fact 2, one to persuade the US public to support the Iraq warm, and a second to win the 2004 election--"watch out for homosexuals and terrorists.   Here in (your city's name here) a dirty bomb could be exploded. And if homosexuals can call themselves married, YOUR marriage is in danger."

As several of us have said before, it was all about hate and fear.   And in a fearful country, it works like a charm.

Until people start thinking. Which it appears they have.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 07:53 AM

Overall, the country is still pretty much divided down the middle. Regardless of the results, it's still a long way from healing the tormented soul.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Ron Davies
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 07:53 AM

"Iraq war"

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Ron Davies
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 08:04 AM

One of the ironies is that it seems there actually may be some positive developments in Iraq. The Shiite government is now saying it is willing to stop blacklisting all members of the Baathist party. If low-ranking Baathists can be hired, that may start to undercut support for the insurgency.

Though obviously the police problem and the oil revenue distribution still have to be addressed.

But--from the WSJ today:

The Shiite government "charged 57 policemen with torturing prisoners".

And "Al-Douri, Hussein aide turned insurgent, urged a ceasefire".


The question is whether this is too little, too late, to avoid full-blown civil war--according to the WSJ today: "Sunnis and Shiites traded mortar fire across the Tigris in Baghdad, killing 21." That sounds just like civil war.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 08:09 AM

My Diebold voting machine failed while I was voting yesterday.
The chief election judge shut it down after it beeped each time I mtried to make a touch screne selection (24 times) while not allowing my selection for a period of time.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 08:15 AM

In the lobby after trying to vote I met a blind couple who also had their Diebold machine fail when they tried to go into to a mode user friendly to the blind.

I went back hours later and made the election judge note in his log book the details of the Diebold machine failures.

There was nothing noted about the failures until I requested he do so.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 08:26 AM

You folks don't get it. Bush now has the power to suspend the Constitution and declare himself president for life. And the Democrats voted for this. And the public just went through another voting farce where votes were stored on memory cards. Now Bush will be impeached so the US can focus on his smirking face while the country is merged with Mexico. The paperwork has already been signed. It's a done deal. But you'll get hissy about stem cell research and "evangelicals" and all the other non-issues and wake up one morning to hear a blurb on TV about the dollar being floated, and the next morning you'll find the "new dollar" is worth a penny. Does any of this sink in? There's only one party at the national level.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Ron Davies
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 08:33 AM

" Guest"--

Get a name or a handle--or your contributions are worthless--and, as I've said before, I hope we will all treat them as such. I certainly will.

Subject: RE: BS: Election results
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 08:36 AM

Wonder if George will bring his *smirk* with him to today's press conference???

Looks as if Jim Webb will carry Virginia...

As for Bush declaring himself president-for-life??? Well, yeah, we've always had to have had that in the backs of our minds but I think this is going to be more up to K Street and all indications are the K Street ain't up to having a king/dictator and they are the money people... But, yeah, there's always the fear, GUEST...

Bobert