BS: Animal Rights Protesters

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 12:50 PM

No! There's enough of them on Scottish islands, it's a full scale invasion.

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 01:34 PM

Without trying to be devisive, Im very surprised at the number of people here who are against "animal rights" ( I always thought that was a stupid title )
I thought as this is a folk music site the members might have a more caring attitude towards the natural world.
Although the behaviour of some activists could seem bizarre, surely the principle cant be denied.
Apparently most Mudcatters give it no thought at all..Ake

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: Crystal
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 02:11 PM

I will not suport people who will not practice what they preach. Also as a scientist I realise thet animal testing is, unfortunatly, still required to verify the safty of drugs coming on to the market.

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 02:20 PM

Animal testing for drugs (human life enhancing/saving ones ) may be valid, but the conditions the animals are kept in has often proved to be the problem.

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 02:25 PM

As one of the posters above might say: blar, blar, blar.

There is no hypocrisy involved, imo. There is a LARGE difference between using animal products that are made into clothing and shoes and glues and what all after the animal is dead - everything dies eventually and the utilization of any or all of our parts will not harm us -and using that same animal before its death in a painful, uncaring, useless fashion that is brutalizing to it and to its practitioners alike.

Science on occasion will have to cause pain to some beings in order to prevent pain for some other beings. I understand that. But the "scientists" on this thread would be the first to concede that that there are experiments going on right now that are just plain silly with no reasonable end in view.

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 02:33 PM

Very good Ebbie, I agree with what you say.

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: Crystal
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 02:51 PM

Actually most animals are killed especially for these products, that they are not is a comfortable delusion which allows the protesters to live with their hypocrisy.

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 02:53 PM

"a more caring attitude towards the natural world"

F@ck the natural world... it started the "Fight For Survial" and how it's whining and crying becasue it's loosing...

tough

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 02:58 PM

"Actually most animals are killed especially for these products, that they are not is a comfortable delusion which allows the protesters to live with their hypocrisy."


What, didn't you know the people who make shoes just wait around for the moo-cows to pass away peacefully in their sleep? Hehehe..heheh..he..

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 03:07 PM

Lets just start on about the Effing mink again!!

Didn't understand your point BI ??

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 03:23 PM

"using animal products that are made into clothing and shoes and glues and what all after the animal is dead - everything dies eventually "

Like Crystal said, the moo-cows are killed specifically to make shoes and burgers... that's not dying eventually, that's being slaughtered. It's not like, as i said in a moment of misguided sarcasm, McDonalds and Hush Puppies wait around waiting for the beasts to drop dead from old age...

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 03:32 PM

Akenaton was a fool to build his capitol city in the middle of a stinking desert far away from a river.
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Its the save the mosquito people I can't fathom.

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 03:54 PM

What I cant fathom,is the deep wisdom which Im sure is contained in Donuels' message.

I'm getting more and more dim.

I'm sure I'll end up like Clinton

BI I think Ebbie meant after the moos' hade been slaughtered for food (which is another argument),the use of their skins would be permissable.
Like when a human dies it is permissable to use their organs, but not to kill them for their organs

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 04:02 PM

BI, your repeated references to 'hush puppies' borders on the weird. 1) the brand of shoe known as Hush Puppy is not made from dogs and 2) the southern finger food known as 'hush puppies' is not made of meat. (It isn't made of 'fingers' either.)

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 04:06 PM

*Sigh* I know the shoes aren't made from dogs. They're made from leather...ie cow skin. Which was what i was talking about.

The finger food sounds interesting...

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Feb 05 - 05:29 PM

Hush puppies, in the American south, are an integral part of a meal, especially in a restaurant. They are frequently put on the table upon arrival as an appetizer, much as nachos and salsa are in a Mexican restaurant.

HUSH PUPPIES

These delectable little balls of fried seasoned cornbread are incredibly addictive. Be careful; it's easy to fill up on these!

2 cups yellow corn meal
2 tablespoons flour
2 teaspoons baking powder
1 tablespoon sugar
2 teaspoons salt
1/4 cup finely chopped onions
Freshly ground black pepper to taste
Boiling water
1 egg, beaten
1/4 cup milk
Oil for frying
Heat oil in deep skillet or fryer to 375°F.

Mix all dry ingredients except the baking powder. Pour in enough hot water to make a thick mush, making sure all ingredients are moistened. Add milk, egg and baking powder and mix thoroughly.

Drop by spoonfuls (or use a small ice cream scoop) into oil, and fry until golden brown.

Marvelous with fish or shellfish. Fried catfish and hush puppies are a particularly classic combination.

Source

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 11:40 AM

THanks, i'll have to try that :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: Bert
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 12:16 PM

You forgot the beer in that recipe Ebbie.

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 01:21 PM

The beer goes on the outside, Bert. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: Tam the man
Date: 10 Feb 05 - 02:45 PM

These loonies are just terrorists, I mean I protest against certain things however I don't go out and cause harm to any other human beings, I'm not a great animal lover but if I was an animal lover, then I would protest peacefully instead of terroristing people who themselves are classed as animals.

So in affect they should love humans as well.

So they're hypocrites, because they love animals when you terrorisis Humans, who are only doing that to save Animal right protesters lives, What I don't like is when they use animals for people's vanity, that's not right, however if to try and find cures until we find some alternitve then animals it will have to be.

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 02:13 AM

Tam

Well said.

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 02:43 AM

i'm all for animal rights and stuff, but some people take it way too far.

Subject: RE: BS: Animal Rights Protesters
From: GUEST,Reggie Miles
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 03:39 AM

Hmmm, speaking of the A.L.F...

For the last fifteen years I been comforted by the fact that I've lived in a town known for nothing. Yep, I was even contemplating getting tee shirts and bumper stickers made that would read, "Welcome to Sultan, the town known for nothing." I suppose it was inevitable that our lucky streak wouldn't last forever.

Many had high hopes when the hundred-year flood hit a few years back, and water began rushing over Highway 2 toward Main Street. Unfortunately, the flood over the roadway was less than an inch deep and only about a foot wide. Nevertheless, the city fathers handled the emergency with all the fervor they could muster. There were barricades, and flashing lights, and police directing traffic through the torrent. The police intervention actually created more of a traffic headache than the water ever did. News crews, with truck mounted satellite dishes, were dispatched to take pictures and report on the latest breaking flood levels to cripple the city. We even made the local evening news. Excited, after catching the news clip, we walked down to Main Street to see what all of the hubbub was about. But in reality it wasn't anything more than just an oversized trickle. There were no sinkholes or mudslides. There wasn't any loss of life, and no significant property damage to the town. There was, however, this one rumor circulating at the time, about a woman who went to use the toilet and found a rat inside. They said it had crawled up there because the sewer lines were flooded, but there was no way of confirming that.

I had a friend who always joked that he lived in a sleepy little town in Illinois known for nothing. Then, about the time he was getting ready to print up a batch of tee shirts and bumper stickers that read, "Welcome to Quincy, the town known for nothing." the Mississippi River flooded its banks, destroying hundreds of thousands of acres of farmland and wiping out entire communities. Quincy, as it turned out, became nationally known as having the only surviving passable bridge across the flood-swollen Mississippi, and to top it off their local sports team won the state championship. The town celebrated the victory with a parade of about three cars that honked their horns wildly down Main Street.

Sultan's brush with fame wasn't nearly as awe inspiring or glorious. It wasn't a retrospective about the one rock and roll festival to start the whole rock fest movement rolling, that happened right there in Sultan, The Sky River Rock Fest. It wasn't news confirming the much rumored existence of a nudist colony located somewhere on the outskirts of town. No, Sultan's recent moment of glory was having the Animal Liberation Front claim responsibility for the release of about ten thousand mink from a local farm.

Owed To The A.L.F. (Reggie Miles 2005)

Have you heard about the latest stink?
The liberation of ten thousand mink

Oh what a glorious sight to see
As thousands of minks were all set free

What relief they must have felt
To not to have to shed their pelt

And oh what minky jubilation
To finally get their overdue mink vacation

Set loose to roam the countryside
Some tried to hitch a ride and died

And others suffered from dehydration
Which resulted in their expiration

Many were recaptured they say
To spend their lives in the usual way

Destined to fill the furrier's need
To give their lives for furry greed

Caged until their time was done
Then murdered every single one

In this day and age we should reform
We don't need to kill animals to keep warm

Poly fill can do the trick I think
So murder polyesters and save the mink

Save the mink, save the mink
Murder polyesters and save the mink
Poly fill can do the trick I think
So murder polyesters and save the mink

And what will the Animal Liberation Front do?
When the last mink is spared by me and you?

Will their needless vandalism cease or pause?
Or will they take up the freedom for polyester cause?

Tearing open coats to liberate the poly fill
You know what I think? You bet they will!

And finally when every last polyester thread
Is freed from sleeping bag, pillow and bed

And we all lay shivering through the long cold night
Without rest, to the ALF's delight
Then, will we at last arise to fight?

With bags under our eyes from lack of sleep
Will we allow this domestic terrorism to continue?
Or just resume counting sheep?

Baa, one, baa, two, baa, three, baa, four

Save the mink, save the mink
Let's all murder polyesters and save the mink
Save the mink, save the mink
We should murder polyesters but save the mink