BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!

Subject: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 14 Nov 11 - 06:42 PM

Just saw it on the news. Meryl Streep as Thatch!

Weird!

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Nov 11 - 06:43 PM

The dingo ate my Falklands!

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: BanjoRay
Date: 14 Nov 11 - 07:06 PM

John Wayne would have been better......

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: GUEST,Enberto Uco
Date: 14 Nov 11 - 07:29 PM

Scene 1: Thatcher in shades on a motorbike with a pump action shotgun and a Uzi
storms the TUC conference barricades.

Scargill runs up to the roof for his helicopter while grinning henchmen
hurl grenades at Thatcher
as she does a wheelie with all guns blazing up the stairs.....................

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 14 Nov 11 - 07:37 PM

Just wonder if the Americans know what they're messing with. I can imagine parts of England where they might burn the cinema down.

Whatever you thought of her, the most divisive person in English politics since Thomas Cromwell.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Nov 11 - 07:47 PM

No, Al, we've had our heads up our arses all these years.:-) (Don't forget, we've had a few of our own, too.)

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: BTNG
Date: 14 Nov 11 - 08:00 PM

None as bad as Thatcher, not even Reagan on his worst day

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: gnu
Date: 14 Nov 11 - 08:10 PM

Ronny Raygun? A mental dwarf compared to Thatcher.

I want my Falkland Islands back!... imagine... Argentines fucking with the crown??? WHAT were they THINKING?

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: BTNG
Date: 14 Nov 11 - 08:13 PM

"Ronny Raygun? A mental dwarf compared to Thatcher.'

Yeah, I know....many are....

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Nov 11 - 09:43 PM

I hope Woody Allen plays John Major!

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Nov 11 - 09:51 PM

"I spit on your grave".

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Nov 11 - 10:57 PM

Yeah, Thatcher was wayyy worse than Raygun!!! I remember when she joked that she had launched a nuclear strike on the Soviets and shipped missiles to terrorists so that she could finance drug deals to prop up Central American despots.

That was Thatcher right? She was the Altzheimers patient who said "government is the problem" and doubled the US debt? Right?

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 07:52 AM

I did wonder if they will have to build a soakaway drain around her grave when she eventually gets planted.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: GUEST,Shining Wit
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 08:11 AM

Jeremy Hardy once commented that her grave will be the biggest urinal in Britain and I have to say I was a bit disappointed with that joke. It'll be the biggest midden.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 08:16 AM

I did have a laugh about that one. Poor Meryl what did she do to deserve that?!

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Musket
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 08:17 AM

A soakaway is the least thing it will need.

It had better have a sprung dance floor too. My knees are not so good. Neither are the knees of all my ex colliery colleagues.

I wonder if it will have bouncers, a bar and vodka special nights? The disco lights might look a bit disrespectful for the poor buggers in the same cemetery. Although, having her as a neighbour will be disrespectful enough.

At least, as black belt caterpillar wrestler points out, they won't need the expense of building a toilet.



Ruddy hell. I still feel the same, all these years later. Strange, and not altogether comfortable with my own thoughts. But I still can't moderate them or think differently.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 08:29 AM

Take a look. Here's the movie trailer:

The Iron Lady

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: GUEST,redhorse at work
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 08:35 AM

Big Al: I think you're being a bit hard on Thomas Cromwell.

Mind you, his brother Oliver was a bit of a shit.................

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: theleveller
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 08:49 AM

Christ almighty! Why would anyone in their right mind want to make a film about Bloody Thatcher? It would take a Hitchcock to portray the true evil of that woman.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 08:52 AM

"Oliver Cromwell was born at Cromwell House in Huntingdon on 25 April 1599, to Robert Cromwell and Elizabeth Steward. He was descended from Katherine Cromwell (born c. 1482), an elder sister of Tudor statesman Thomas Cromwell." wiki

Thomas was an advisor and favourite [tho later executed when fell out of favour] of Henry VIII. Oliver, as one sees here, a sort of great++ nephew of his. I suspect it was Oliver that Al meant.

Enjoying this thread no end: constantly entertained by the Pavlovian saliva-run-inducing effect that any mention of Thatcher has on the poor innocent doggies of Mudcat...

Woof-woof. Tee-hee ~

~Michael~

"Poor Meryl what did she do to deserve that?!" Why, Polly, she signed a contract. Actors like to eat, dontcha know. And some of them play all sorts of part. Bela Lugosi wasn't really a vampire, did you know that?

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: theleveller
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 09:13 AM

Don't be such a prat, MtheGM, she destroyed the lives of thousnads of people up here in Yorkshire. Some of the communities have never recovered. That sort of comment would have you hanging from a lampost in Rotherham. (Hmmm....interesting vision that conjours up :))

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: theleveller
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 09:16 AM

Or conjures, even.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 09:22 AM

No I meant Thomas. Dissolution of the monastries. Start of prot v Catholic squabble.

Seen by some as the first modern statesman, but known to his contemporaries as a 'foul cur'.

That guy. Very divisive.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 09:46 AM

'Actors like to eat, dontcha know'

I shouldn't think getting a crust for the table was uppermost in Meryls mind. Or Jim Broadbent's who is playing Dennis.

Must be a hell of a script to get Jim aboard.

The sheer weirdness unfolds.....

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: BTNG
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 09:47 AM

and Thatcher actually went to war, Sailor boy, or did that slip you "mind"

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 10:02 AM

Surely they should have used a very ugly actress to play that hideous murdering cow thatcher.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: GUEST,Emberto Uco
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 10:25 AM

Yes, that was a problem with the BBC4 drama biog of the Thatcher younger years.

The actress was well too fit
and provoked all kinds of confusing and inappropriate male responses
to her depiction of the monsterous Mrs T.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 12:03 PM

I seem to remember that Alan Clark fancied Mrs Thatcher.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 12:06 PM

You democratic, progressive lefty-bumholes-Mudcatters really do kill me~~

~~literally, it seems it would be, if you had your masturbatory-fantasy way.   For thinking you might just be an itsy-bitsy teensy-weensy little bit immoderate in your denunciations {"Most evil woman of C20", someone remarked not long ago, leaving Irma Grese & Rosemary West & Myra Hindley & Mme Ceausescu & [cont p94] nowhere!}, I m not only a self-evident prat~~

~~but you have fragrant fantasies of me hanging from a lamp-post - in Rotherham, yet ~~ oh the shame & disgrace!

Well, enjoy. My withers are unwrung & my neck unstretched. Have a good wank while you fantasise ~ wankers!

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 12:13 PM

I suspect that the film was green lighted during the "conservative resurgence" (my words) of 2010. I think some of you might be appalled to find that Thatcher is a hero in this country to the tea party crowd, and with the title "Iron Lady" that is very likely that the movie is a very flattering portrait of her.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: BTNG
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 12:17 PM

"I think some of you might be appalled to find that Thatcher is a hero in this country to the tea party crowd'


To the surprise of absolutely nobody, she maybe hero to a small crowd in the USA, but The British lived through her regime...big difference between theory and practice.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 12:32 PM

I think that "small crowd in the USA" would rival the current population of England. And on this side of the Atlantic, we did endure Reagan and Mulrooney.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 12:47 PM

Reagan's legacy laid the groundwork for the financial problems today. His Savings and Loan debacle (the deregulation of banking) was just the beginning. The tip of the iceberg, as it were. And he was a great pal with Mrs. Thatcher.

Meryl Streep will transform herself with her usual acting magic, so I'll wait for the reviews before I decide whether to see the film.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: BTNG
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 02:33 PM

*sigh* By a small crowd I did mean The Tea Party membership or is their membership greater than anyone thought? Never thought I'd have to explain that....still why should it surprise me?

and....I knw ALL about living under the regime of Martin Brian Mulroney.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: fat B****rd
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 03:03 PM

There is much anger in certain circles that Meryl plays Mrs. T as a lonely old woman desecnding into dementia.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 04:45 PM

isn't she??

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: BTNG
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 05:25 PM

Couldn't happen to a nicer person

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 05:31 PM

I'm not surprised that Meryl would jump at the chance to play Thatcher. I'm sure it's an actors dream to play a part like that. Actors love to play disagreeable characters. And I'm sure she'll do a fine job.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 05:38 PM

Well, the 2 movies they made about Nixon were pretty cool. And Leonardo DiCaprio seems to have a fine one coming soon about J. Edgar Hoover. So why not one about Maggie Thatcher?

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 05:54 PM

And don't forget - John Wayne once played Genghis Khan.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: BTNG
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 06:07 PM

J. Edgar, is, apparently, already showing in Canada

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 06:17 PM

Excellent. I intend to see it.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: BTNG
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 06:29 PM

Cineplex I think, Hawk.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Nov 11 - 06:45 PM

The "Tea Party crowd" swept the Republicans back into power in the 2010 election, there are tens of millions. I would wager that the number of people who would say that they admire Reagan is at least forty million, maybe up to twice that. That is the target market for a pro-Thatcher movie in this country.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:25 AM

Hmm. But is it a pro-Thatcher movie? Were the movies about Richard Nixon made in order to be pro-Nixon? I don't think so, but they were certainly interesting in portraying various sides of his rather tortured personality. He was a man who didn't quite manage to handle his inner demons, but still went far in life anyway. One could say the same of Howard Hughes. Flawed, but very interesting lives. How will Meryl Streep portray Margaret Thatcher? Streep herself is quite "liberal" politically, isn't she?

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 12:29 AM

I've seen the trailer. The seem to be marketing it "pro thatcher."

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: theleveller
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 04:20 AM

Oh dear, MtheGM - you're the one who's getting himself into an orgasmic lather. How very frustrated you must be - or is it something to do with your sense of humour bypass?

Trying to belittle the very real anger of those who suffered during the Thatcher reign of terror just makes you look small-minded.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 04:41 AM

OK ~ pax, leveller. I do have a soh really, mostly. Just seems to me that maybe you had left yours behind somewhere, with your somewhat hyperbolical revenge fantasies. I have been to Rotherham, believe it or not, & escaped unscathed and unhung. Not sure I raised this particular ? while there, but W Yorks people in my experience thoroughly deliteful (& in general more tolerant than you of other people's opinions): why, nearly 60 years ago I had a girlfriend who came from Keighley.

But 'reign of terror'? Bit hyperbolical again, eh? I don't try to belittle anyone's real anger: but it always does to realise that such anger is not universally shared; & you democratic lefties, you pious selfrighteous self-appointed spokespersons for the populace at large, as I have mentioned before once of twice maybe, can never reconcile yourselves to the fact that the Lady was democratically elected, on a free vote of the entire population from which the denizens of Rotherham were not excluded, not once, not twice, but three [count them ~ 3] times [3x].
So, in return for your 'small-minded' for me, how about 'anti-democratic' for you, huh?

〠☺~M~☺〠

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 04:42 AM

I have absolutely no time for Thatcher or the ideology of the party that she belongs to. But we should never forget that the many of the 'reforms' that she instituted came to full fruition under 13 years of a Labour government - who did very little to reverse them. There's no doubt that Thatcher, in representing money and greed, was evil but Labour, under Blair and Brown, were evil and hypocritical (and far too prone to bone-headed social engineering and illegal wars). The present government are just carrying on the Thatcher project with less hypocrisy and less silly social engineering. I suspect that we have the governments that we, collectively, deserve.

Subject: RE: BS: Yanks make a Thatcher film!!!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Nov 11 - 05:15 AM

Anyway, lev, I thought you lefties were all for Reigns Of Terror ~~ a popular movement if ever there was one. Jacobins to a man, aintcher! Wot u think u r doing, using it as a term of abuse!