BS: Let's talk about the US election

Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Nov 24 - 11:04 AM

Big Al, YOU keep bringing it up. I just described the numbers game that gets played here. Dick, stop sending PMs.

We know what happened, but the difference in votes is about 0.05% that would have turned the election. If half of one percent of all of those voters were in those swing states, Harris would have won even without the popular vote (it's how Trump won the first time). It's a screwed up system based upon colonial Southern landowners in slave-holding states. It means Harris connected with a lot of people, she wasn't out of touch, but they didn't figure out how to get past the outright lies told by the Trump campaign to working people who didn't know that their news sources are like FOX as Trump parrots or like 'influencers' on disconnected social media. And don't doubt that Russia influenced a lot of those disconnected folks.

The party chairs in each state will sum up the results in their states and the party will choose a new leader and maybe in two years the Democratic opposition will break through that news/sound barrier.

Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election
From: Helen
Date: 21 Nov 24 - 01:19 PM

Here's something to cheer about:

Donald Trump's choice for US attorney-general, Matt Gaetz, withdraws, from consideration

"Donald Trump's controversial pick for US attorney-general, Matt Gaetz, says he has decided to withdraw his name from consideration.

"The US Congress's House Ethics Committee had been considering releasing a report into allegations Mr Gaetz had engaged in sexual misconduct.

Mr Gaetz denies the allegations, which include that he had sex with a 17-year-old girl."

Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Nov 24 - 01:32 PM

Democrats consider themselves the adults in the room, not falling for conspiracy theories and say the elections are sound. Then articles like this one come along: Cyber-Security Experts Warn Election Was Hacked
'Musk is guilty as fuck'

Cyber-security experts across America are raising the alarm of wide-scale election fraud securing Trump’s victory — and the data is compelling.

Two open letters penned by computer scientists and hacking experts have detailed how the USA’s election software was compromised and the relatively simple hack which could have then been used to fix the results in the seven swing states. They are calling for an immediate hand recount in key precincts which, they say, should swiftly show that a number of these ballots never existed.

There are already numerous articles online stating that this is a left wing conspiracy, and Elon Musk himself has warned that those raising concerns about the “hoax” will face “the hammer of justice”. However, the articles debunking these concerns have only focused on the claim that Musk used his internet service Starlink to steal the election. As detailed below, this is not what the cyber security experts are warning of — although Starlink may have played a role.

The Data

The key data raising concerns that a hack may have been deployed is the number of bullet ballots which exist for Trump in swing states. Bullet ballots are when voters vote for one candidate—in this case the President—and don’t fill out the rest of the ballot. Every year, in every state—including in the past two elections Trump ran in—the percentage of bullet ballots is around 1%. This trend has stayed consistent in the 43 non-swing states in the 2024 election. However, the percentage of bullet ballots is not just anomalous in swing states for Trump this year—it is off the charts.

According to one of the open letters, in Arizona, Trump’s percentage of bullet ballots totaled 7.2%. In Nevada, 5.5%. In comparison, bullet ballots for Trump in Oregon, Utah and Idaho—the three states which border Arizona and Nevada, with equally fervent Trump voters—count for less than 0.05% in each state.

The same pattern continues across the other swing states, with an astonishing 11% of votes for Trump in North Carolina being bullet ballots.

Follow the link for the rest of the article. The part that makes this seem most creepy and yet most plausible is the lottery that Musk ran - the description of the information needed to enter that he could then manipulate. In that instance. (I'm not there yet as far as what happened, but the swing states need more examination for this as one of many reasons.)

Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election
From: gillymor
Date: 21 Nov 24 - 01:32 PM

There's a long litany of sleaze on Gaetz, without his connections and influential father he'd be doing time right now so he does seem like a logical pick for a Trump administration AG as having sexual predation on your resume appears to be a plus.

Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election
From: Helen
Date: 21 Nov 24 - 02:34 PM

The funny part about Gaetz as well is that he resigned from his role as a Congressman in Florida just before Trumpty-Dumpty announced that he was putting Gaetz forward as the AG nominee. Damn & double-damn, Mr Gaetz! LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election
From: robomatic
Date: 21 Nov 24 - 02:38 PM

Yesterday a news article on National Public Radio more than suggested two significant undersea data cables were deliberately cut, the apparent culprit being a Chinese vessel. Here is
the Newsweek version but it is in several European online pubs.

Curious to me why it would be so obvious, but we already know we live in strange times. Suggests to me another book for the New Era Club.

Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election
From: robomatic
Date: 21 Nov 24 - 03:34 PM

Gaetz has pulled out of contention for AG. Now it's time to worry about the next submission.

I learned long ago that whenever you feel relieved that some sob has left the stage, there's room for worse.

Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election
From: Helen
Date: 21 Nov 24 - 03:52 PM

Well, robomatic, one of our balanced political commentators on Oz TV's Planet America said that Gaetz could have been proposed as a "stalking horse" so that the next person nominated gets in with less fuss and less scrutiny.

Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election
From: robomatic
Date: 21 Nov 24 - 06:17 PM

So WHO could he be a stalking horse for . . . Kanye West?

Subject: RE: BS: Let's talk about the US election
From: Helen
Date: 21 Nov 24 - 06:24 PM

Hmm! They mentioned someone else but the name escapes me. I can look it up. Maybe Mike Lee?