this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]

Subject: this never happened
From: The Sandman
Date: 09 Dec 21 - 02:44 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE4J5P8g-fw
I was attending a business meeting
the cheese and wine? the audience were not cheesed off, and they were not wining and dining.
I would like to celebrate the fact that over the last 46 years i never sang a song or played a musical instrument.Neither did i run a folk festival for 8 years. I never ran two folk clubs.Neither did I play in the New Mexborough Concertina Quartet.
neither did i write any concertina tutors

Subject: RE: this never happened
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Dec 21 - 04:45 AM

I never wrote 32 piano sonatas, sixteen string quartets, five piano concertos and nine symphonies. They were all written by Steve Shaw at business meetings in a huge room, full of people wearing party hats who were blowing those retractable whistles (which is why there's a bum note in Op 59 no 2), a room bigger than Wembley Stadium, at which he saw wine and cheese but never touched a drop or scrap. Hardly.

In his dreams.

And I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Well, not that one anyway (er, which one did you mean, by the way...?)

Sincerely yours

Ludwig

Ps. When the Cabinet Secretary carried out his investigation, all he could find in the cabinet was a half-empty bottle of sweet sherry (all sticky and covered in cat hairs) that had been there for eight years. Larry the Downing Street cat has tearfully offered his resignation.

Subject: RE: this never happened
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 09 Dec 21 - 05:00 AM

Below the line please.

Subject: RE: this never happened
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Dec 21 - 06:13 AM

Yeah, don't forget the BS tag, Dick!

Subject: RE: this never happened
From: The Sandman
Date: 09 Dec 21 - 07:04 AM

it is a music clip.

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: Jeri
Date: 09 Dec 21 - 09:01 AM

I added a clue to what the link was to. (Shortened to fit.)

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 09 Dec 21 - 09:10 AM

Political post. Ignore the sophistry.

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: The Sandman
Date: 09 Dec 21 - 12:24 PM

Thankyou Jeri.Happy Christmas,John Mackenzie

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 09 Dec 21 - 08:37 PM

As the most excellent, Devine Creator of the split kingdoms ...

I declare the thread should reside in the upper domains.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle
Any good soldier that has laid miles of dick through swanky bird's eye deserves respect.

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Dec 21 - 08:39 PM

The Gargoyle Has Spoken.

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: Jeri
Date: 09 Dec 21 - 08:47 PM

I'm rather impressed that he, unlike all the complainers, must have actually figured out what Dick's post was about. (It wasn't easy.)

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: Jeri
Date: 10 Dec 21 - 10:10 AM

So Dick said this (I removed the "having a go at someone whose post was deleted" stuff:

"it is a music clip, it was a joking way to publicise some music.
using irony to introduce a clip of a song
the post is about the song "willy of the winesbury.""

And if anyone is too stupid, or uninterested, to check out his link, you probably shouldn't be posting to reply to it.

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Dec 21 - 06:10 AM

refresh.

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 Sep 24 - 03:09 AM

Swindon folk club, where this clip was taken, was run by Ted and Ivy Poole for over 50 years ..Ted was a member of the communist party and he provisionally had booked singer songwriter Paul Simon thiswas in the early sixties,1962?
in those days the club was held in the Swindon communist party building, Paul Simon sent Ted a letter saying that he was unable to do the gig because of where the folk club was held, in the letter he explained that because of the remains of McCarthyism if he did the gig in the communist party building, it would make it difficult FOR HIM to get work in the USA

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 Sep 24 - 03:10 AM

The above post did happen

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 Sep 24 - 03:46 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/wiltshire/4206071.stm
Folk hero letter found in archive
Simon and Garfunkel
Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel enjoyed huge success
A 40-year-old letter from singer-songwriter Paul Simon asking for work at a folk club in Swindon has been donated to the region's records office.

The letter, which reveals Simon's fee was seven pounds, was part of the Swindon Folk Singers Club archive.

The club, founded by Ted and Ivy Poole, grew out of the protest movement of the 50s and started out in a cellar beneath the Communist Party's Swindon branch.

In the letter, dated 12 June 1964, Simon asks for a gig.

But Simon never played at the club because of its Communist connection.

Mr Poole, 79, told the BBC: "He felt it might label him. But it was about traditional music and song, and celebrating working people's culture."

'Comprehensive archive'

In the letter, Simon declares: "I record for Columbia Records in the States and will cut my first LP for Topic Records over here.

"I would appreciate any work that you could give me between the first week of August and the first week of September."

The letter can be seen in Wiltshire and Swindon Record Office.

Steve Hobbs, archivist for Wiltshire County Council, said: "It is rare to find such a comprehensive archive from a provincial folk club.

"The archive is a fascinating piece of social history, which shows the links between folk music and protest.

"For example, the club staged benefits for both CND and the Support the Miners campaign in the 1980s."

The archive also contains a 1966 letter from Adge Cutler, whose backing band was West Country favourites, The Wurzels.

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 01 Sep 24 - 04:13 AM

He played at Grimsby Folk Club, and stayed the night at John Connolly’s mum’s house. What I’d give to have been at the after-gig in the Connolly household!

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 Sep 24 - 04:26 AM

yes, two good songwriters together, intersting

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: GUEST,jim bainbridge
Date: 01 Sep 24 - 06:28 AM

Re Paul Simon's stance on this, it was probably justified on the basis that he was on a commercial route- Ted & Ivy' Swindon club was the antithesis of that.
   In 2003, the inauguration of the 'Cotia' miners' banner depicting Jack Elliott and Jock Purdon, Jack's daughter Doreen was on good terms with Tony Benn & asked him to attend & speak at the event.

   He did just that & spoke at length about the miners and the Elliott family in paricular. About his own career, he mentioned his travels -= when first asked to speak in Australia, he received a form asking many questions- one was whether he had any criminal convictions. At the 'Cotia event, he said he hadn't realised that it was still compulsory...

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 Sep 24 - 07:59 AM

I played the club regularly, and was always paid a decent fee, so the club was commercial in the sense that the aim was to cover the required fees of travelling performers, however as Jim says, the club was,not just a social meeting place but also a venue for left wing political opinions.
I feel that it is a sad inditement of the uk folk revival that in 2024 fewer clubs like swindon, with left wing political bias.. exist

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: GUEST,jim bainbridge
Date: 01 Sep 24 - 08:13 AM

I understand from the organiser that the club still exits on a monthky basis. I think the general left wing bias of folk clubs in general came from the people who ran them in the past. Now I hear the current Labour party (spits) described as left wing!! - hence the change in the nature of remaining clubs?

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 Sep 24 - 09:51 AM

yes but not just the organisers but also the majority of people who went imo

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 01 Sep 24 - 11:20 PM

Nice old song, well played, Dick.

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Sep 24 - 03:45 AM

Hi Seamus hope you are well

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 03 Sep 24 - 11:05 AM

In the pink, Dick.

Subject: RE: this never happened [Dick Miles/Willy of Winsbury]
From: The Sandman
Date: 04 Sep 24 - 03:02 AM

good to hear from you both ,i had good sessions with both of you ,jim with his good accordion playing, and Seamus, hope you are still flatpicking, one of the best