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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 24 Aug 09 - 04:58 PM While on its own this forum only reaches a small part of the population, folk song/dance/music does touch many peoples lives, and in doing so, decent people in the folk world need to make sure that they are distanced from the nastiness the BNP stand for (thus folk against fascism). Also at the same time, if other activities in communities that the BNP try an enamor themselves with take a similar stand, be it other music forms, theatre, gardeners, keep fit classes, etc etc, then the joined up effect becomes tremendous, and more and more people talk intelligently about the threat that the BNP is thus making them more and more marginalised. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: GUEST,guest_olddude Date: 24 Aug 09 - 05:04 PM Charlotte point well taken. Thank you Dan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Smokey. Date: 24 Aug 09 - 05:07 PM 'Sam' - Just what wealth have you created for this country? Any? Join the army; they need people like you. It would be an opportunity for you to make a contribution we could all be greatful for. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Smokey. Date: 24 Aug 09 - 05:12 PM Greatful? Sory, i doesn't kno how to right propper. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Richard Bridge Date: 24 Aug 09 - 05:13 PM "Sam" loose with weapons of mass destruction in a Muslim country could truly set the world alight with a jihad the like of which has not been seen: something as massive as the Crusades were in the middle ages. I do not want him as my ambassador in any occupied country. Olddude, if you know a suitable US contingency lawyer who will insure any risk to me and wants a piece of Fakebook, I have the records of most of my communications with Fakebook. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Peace Date: 24 Aug 09 - 05:13 PM S'ok. "Sam" can't read worth shit anyway. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Peace Date: 24 Aug 09 - 05:14 PM Richard, I have saved damned near all of them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 24 Aug 09 - 05:16 PM Now there's a question I've wanted to ask our friend "Sam" or is it Chris, I forget, anyway.....The question is; How you ever served in the RAF, Navy or Army? Defending the country you so strongly believe in. Any other contributions you may have made to Britain that you feel we should know about? Or do you just spend your time bitching and complaining about others, particularly those of different ethnic origins to yourself. I know people who do more for Britain just by getting out of bed in the morning, than you've apparently done your whole life. Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Smokey. Date: 24 Aug 09 - 05:30 PM "Sam" loose with weapons of mass destruction in a Muslim country could truly set the world alight with a jihad the like of which has not been seen: something as massive as the Crusades were in the middle ages. I do not want him as my ambassador in any occupied country. Not quite what I had in mind, Richard. Try cannon fodder. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Peace Date: 24 Aug 09 - 05:37 PM Smokey, yer giving fodder a bad name. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Smokey. Date: 24 Aug 09 - 05:46 PM Sorry, I have an offal sense of humour. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Peace Date: 24 Aug 09 - 05:48 PM Jaysus . . . . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Peace Date: 24 Aug 09 - 05:52 PM Richard, I have a neat idea regarding Wikileaks. I'll lay it out in e-mail form and send. Neat way to nail the fuckers, BIG time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Smokey. Date: 24 Aug 09 - 07:10 PM Jaysus . . . . It's the way I tell 'em. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Peace Date: 24 Aug 09 - 07:27 PM It's a gift. I can see that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Smokey. Date: 24 Aug 09 - 07:37 PM Such a delicate subject deserves the level of sensitivity and sparkling wit that can only be executed by someone with a talent such as my own. It is indeed a gift I do not deserve. I am duly humbled by your kind words. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Peace Date: 24 Aug 09 - 07:48 PM Gotta get you, Severn, Art T and Gnu in a room together. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Smokey. Date: 24 Aug 09 - 08:24 PM I'll trust your judgement on that.. count me in. Guitars and informal dress, presumably. Damn shame we invented the Colonies so far away, really, innit? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Peace Date: 24 Aug 09 - 08:27 PM I'd be real surprised if any of you guys show up wearing a dress. However . . . . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Smokey. Date: 24 Aug 09 - 08:42 PM This conjures up a somewhat disturbing picture which, on reflection, I'd rather not have imagined. But hey, what the heck - you're only young once. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Smokey. Date: 24 Aug 09 - 09:06 PM I wonder if Sam's lot approve of black humour? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: jeddy Date: 24 Aug 09 - 09:29 PM wow, it has tsaken me about an hour and a half to catch up. there are some people who are just using the BNP as an excuse to wind you all up. most of the copy and pastes are probably written by someone else. yes i do believe in speaking and explaining the BNP to wouldbe voters who have just had enough of what we already have. how many times must i say that, yes there are alot of BNP supporters you cannot reach by being reasonable? if i thought for one second that 'sam' belived what she is writing i would pounce on it, but at she is nothing but a troll, why waste my time? that article on the gollie, was incredibly disturbing, i cannot imagine what she is aying at sachool and her friends taking it all in, these things are never contained, but spread like the evil it is. is there any way to find out what school she goes to and see what kind of anti racist steps they are taking? i wonder how many of her classmates and friends are of not acceptable to the BNP? i would hope alot so at least she has a chance, in time, to see what she is being taught by her very 'nice' parents. it is all about education,we have to counter the start 'em young that the BNP are doing b y going into schools and making the kids understand just what it was that their great grandads fought for and against. i agree with whoever it was said that these troll posts are doing more for our cause than attracting numbers for the BNP. it is the issues that the troll keeps coming up with that need to be addressed, the troll itself is just someone to laugh at really. take care all jade x x x x |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: jeddy Date: 24 Aug 09 - 09:32 PM smokey, i am not sure sure about BLACK humour, but i bet they love the BLACK market. j x x x x |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: olddude Date: 24 Aug 09 - 09:58 PM Well how about a new theme song Dave Van Ronk Losers |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Smokey. Date: 24 Aug 09 - 10:06 PM Aw.. now that's nice. Thanks Mr Dude |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: The Barden of England Date: 25 Aug 09 - 02:20 PM If you want to see what the idiot GUEST - Sam is now doing then just go to this:- http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=9702990907 It bothers me not one jot, but I certainly seem to be bothering him. Keep it up SAM HUDSON, for here's one old fart who won't lay down, who will keep bothering to tell the whole world the truth about the BNP. You vote for who you like - your actions prove what the BNP tactics are. Proof if ever it was needed. John Barden |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Peace Date: 25 Aug 09 - 02:24 PM John, they are lower than snake shit. However, we are going to nail them. And anyone who knows you will attest that you'd sooner drink liquid manure than have anything to do with the BNP. Hell, even the name makes my skin crawl. Bruce Murdoch |
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Subject: RE: On Fakebook From: Richard Bridge Date: 25 Aug 09 - 05:56 PM Leah Green Kind of shaken tonight, dirty old guy called Richard annoying me, why does a man that age want to annoy young ladies ? 18 hours ago. Leah Green Thanks to all my friends for their support in reporting "Richard the Perv". Now you all know who he is and the site he is on, hard to believe someone of his age could act in such a manner. Big big thanks to Facebook staff. 4 hours ago. Justin Van den Heever Hey love,listen i dont even know him,his from the uk stoke i think?yeah wat the fuck thats fuckt up he sounds really sketchy. love im no freak tho serious:-) 2 hours ago Justin Van den Heever Hey love,listen i dont even know him,his from the uk stoke i think?yeah wat the fuck thats fuckt up he sounds really sketchy.love im no freak tho serious:-).iv deleted that old cunt about an hour ago Justin Van den Heever Did it get that bad hey?fuck did i also harass um ok yeah im sorry then... about an hour ago The above times are from a while back. Well, I wonder who is harassing her, since it isn't me. Funny I can still get onto both of their profiles - without ANY tricks. Oh, and onto Gareth's. So what is she thanking Fakebook staff for? Banning someone else? And with a little more work (just a few keystrokes) Sam's and Helen's. It does rather make you wonder about evolution though. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Penny S. Date: 27 Aug 09 - 05:52 AM This looks rather like what is called in the sort of circles that use that sort of language "female relational bullying". Using methods that are supposed to protect people from attack to attack them - we had little girls who used the anti-bullying mediation process to report their victims as being the bullies, while giggling and sneering at the victims. (Without noticing a teacher observing them.) Giving the impression of being an ingroup that is excluding the victim - hence references to supportive friends, and special language forms. This works in schools where victims may be wanting to be part of the group, but is not very effective in adults. Projecting their own behaviour on to the victim. It's rather sad when it goes on into adulthood. An elderly friend of my sister told me that these girls spend all their time planning what nastiness to do next. While the writers of educational texts have many suggestions of methods to deal with boys bullying, there was scant advice in my day of how to deal with the girls. Penny |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Emma B Date: 27 Aug 09 - 07:31 AM BNP deliberately spread Islamophobia - in Essex Epping Forest Monday 3rd August 2009 "THE British National Party has been accused of whipping up racial tensions in the district after it issued an inflammatory leaflet about a local Muslim community group. In the latest edition of the BNP's Epping Forest Patriot, delivered to many households in Loughton, the group attack the use on Friday afternoons of the Murray Hall, in Borders Lane, for Islamic prayer sessions. Under a picture of a union flag being eaten away by the Islamic moon and crescent the leaflet says: "In parts of neighbouring Redbridge and east London the Islamification process is almost complete. We'll do all in our power to prevent Islam creeping into our town." .....Epping Forest BNP group leader Pat Richardson said she had seen the leaflet and "didn't disagree with it." Loughton Inspector Tom Simons said the leaflet was "unhelpful" but did not break the law." guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 26 August 2009 "Racist attackers abducted a Muslim community leader at knifepoint, bundled him into a car and threatened his life unless he stopped running prayer sessions in a community hall that has been the target of a British National party campaign. Police have confirmed they are treating the incident as a hate crime and are investigating links with an earlier firebomb attack on the same man's home. Ramjanally said he was abducted from his home in daylight by two white men who threatened him with a knife, bundled him into a car then drove him into woodland. They demanded he stop organising the Friday prayer sessions at Murray hall community centre. He said the words from his abductors matched the BNP propaganda opposing the Muslim prayers. The same demand was contained in hate mail he received last month threatening his wife and child, he said. On 2 July, Ramjanally received an anonymous threatening letter telling him to stop using the hall for prayers and stating the author knew which school his child went to and which car he drove. The next day his flat was firebombed. The BNP has four councillors in the area and its leafleting campaign in late July has been attacked as inflammatory and divisive. Mohammad Fahim runs the nearest mosque to Loughton which was firebombed in 2000. He said racists have used the fears of new mosques in the area to stoke racial and anti-Muslim tensions. The BNP describes Fahim's mosque, in south Woodford, four miles from Loughton, as "notorious" and claims it has incited violence. In fact, Fahim works as a chaplain for the Metropolitan police. Loughton, which borders the eastern fringe of London, is affluent in parts, with a number of houses on its millionaire's row, called Alderton Hill, owned by British Hindu families. It is also a road, said Fahim, where women wearing headscarves are racially abused by passing white motorists. He advised one Muslim woman to remove her headscarf to avoid being a victim of hate crime. According to the 2001 census, just over 1%of the area's residents describe themselves as Muslim Abdurahman Jafar, chair of the Muslim Safety Forum, which advises the police, said: "The campaign of terror has followed a campaign organised by the BNP whereby they delivered hate literature to locals citing the small Friday prayer sessions as evidence of how 'the Islamification process is almost complete'." Recent months have seen a sharp rise in religiously motivated attacks against the Muslim community including attacks on outwardly Muslim appearing individuals, mosques and pogroms directed against the Muslim Community." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Richard Bridge Date: 27 Aug 09 - 07:37 AM Yes, Penny, little girls are very nasty like that. What a strange coincidence. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Emma B Date: 27 Aug 09 - 08:30 AM An interesting and well balanced article about Luton from todays New Statesman Good Migrations "Luton – described as a breeding ground for militants and a tinderbox of racial tension – has an image problem. The Home Secretary and the press predict a riot, but local people beg to differ." "A former industrial town situated on the edge of the Home Counties, it has long been looked down on by its well-to-do neighbours. Its diverse population is the story of postwar British immigration in miniature: from the 1950s onwards, successive waves of workers - Irish, Caribbean, Asian, African, eastern European - have made this place their home. Since the 11 September 2001 attacks, its large south Asian Muslim population (30,000 in a town of 184,000) has been under intense scrutiny, and particularly so since Luton-based Islamic extremists were alleged to have been involved in the 2005 London Tube bombings." Kelvin Hopkins, Labour MP for Luton North since 1997, has spent three decades working in the town. Unlike his Labour colleague Moran, Hopkins has come through the expenses scandal well, winning praise for his frugal approach to parliamentary allowances. "People change over time," the MP says. "There is a parallel with the Irish Catholic community and their integration into Britain. If you go back 40 years, there was deep prejudice against Irish Catholics; many of them felt very alien in this non-religious country that had dominated and brutalised them over the previous century. Over time, they've totally relaxed, particularly since the Good Friday Agreement. Now we have a Luton Irish forum, [and] a St Patrick's Day parade in the town. It's fantastic. But you couldn't imagine that happening 30 or 40 years ago." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 27 Aug 09 - 09:45 AM This from everyone's favourite racist *LOL* the original to be found on the Legal action against the BNP thread. From: GUEST,Sam - PM Date: 27 Aug 09 - 09:34 AM Joe Offer made it VERY CLEAR there would only be ONE BNP thread on mudcat, currently there are THREE (including Richard's ego driven paraniod one). Would someone please remove two as Joe requested. Thank you Me thinks the wee one is feeling a tad insecure with all the justified attacks on his/her/its racist, anti-semetic, homophobic(I wonder how many closet cases there are in the BNP?)friends. Stand and Be Counted! Charlotte Olivia Robertson Uppity "Indian" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: GUEST,Sam Date: 27 Aug 09 - 10:39 AM Would a Joe clone please check with him regarding three BNP posts up here at same time, he clearly stated there would be one and one only. If there has been a rule change, please let us know. Thanks Sam
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 27 Aug 09 - 10:43 AM You are not one of us, Shelly, or are you using the royal we? (that wouldn't surprise me! If you don't like the way things are here, go away (like I said, feeling insecure are you?) Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms) Uppity "Indian" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Richard Bridge Date: 27 Aug 09 - 10:48 AM "Us"? Is that the royal weeeeee? Come on Sam, be open and honest about your true identity and whereabouts. And tell us why "Sam Hudson" is so keen to find out more about the 80s folk-ish band "Roger the Chorister". Do you want to know about the dead one, or the member of special boat squadron with an enviable hand-to-hand kill record - or a different one? Why might that be? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 27 Aug 09 - 11:16 AM Sam Hudson doesn't exist (well maybe somewhere there's a Sam Hudson!)however Shelley Rose (BNP candidate [failed]) does: Mark Collet, Shelley Rose, Nick Griffin and this is who's currently whining about the anti BNP threads, two specifically labelled BNP, the third is Folk Against Fascism Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms) Uppity "Indian" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 27 Aug 09 - 11:28 AM whatever you say Shelley, whatever you say.... I always enjoy my days....dearie Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms) Uppity "Indian" chick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: GUEST,Sam Date: 27 Aug 09 - 08:19 PM Joe, there are currently three BNP threads up here at present, two below the line and one above (Folk Against Fascism launch at Sidmouth has turned into another). If you read the comments (today) you will see that the troll that arrived here last month is stirring the pot on all of them. Please keep to your word and place a limit of only one at a time. You do recall saying that ? Thanks Sam
What I said was that we would allow one thread discussing the BNP to be active at a time. However, I said that we will also allow separate threads for events, such as this one discussing the Folk Against Fascism protests at Luton and other locations. As has been recognized by some posters, the discussion is curtailed when it moves away from discussion of the event. But that is of no concern to you, since you are merely an uninvited guest here, and you have not even done us the courtesy of telling us who you really are. The rest of you - please carry on with the discussion and stict to the topic. Sam's query has been answered, and that's the end of it. -Joe Offer, Forum Moderator- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 28 Aug 09 - 10:00 AM ME a troll? Stirring the pot am I? *LOL* Oh dear dear!! What's matter Sam/Chris/Shelley/him/her/it, things not going your way? No, you're right, I don't agree with your or the BNPs racist, anti-semetic and homophobic views, and never will. As Joe Offer points out, you have no standing here at Mudcat due to the fact that you've refused to sign in as a member (that smacks of troll to me). I, at least, have the courage to post my real name for all to see, I, unlike you, have nothing to hide. Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms) uppity "Indian" chick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Richard Bridge Date: 28 Aug 09 - 12:13 PM NB "Sam" now claims to be former member "Sam Hudson" but to have lost cookie and password. Do your own advanced search and see if you think it rings true. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 28 Aug 09 - 12:20 PM "NB "Sam" now claims to be former member "Sam Hudson" but to have lost cookie and password. Do your own advanced search and see if you think it rings true" - Richard Bridge sorry Sam/Chris/Shelley/him/her/it you lie! Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms) uppity "Indian" chick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Peace Date: 28 Aug 09 - 05:22 PM Sam is an asshole who's never done ANYthing here but lie. Marmy smarmy kind of person who reminds me of the BNP member who used to post on Mudcat. She seemed to be so fucked up that she used the masculine form of her name to con voters into thinking she was a man. Sam whines lots like her. I'm pretty sure Sam is a gal, not a guy. No guy in the world would write like 'he' does. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive) Date: 28 Aug 09 - 05:27 PM Sam is a female, when I made the (rather bitchy! *LOL* remark about Shelley Rose's bottle blonde hair, the reply from Sam/Chris/Shelley/him/her/it was so very female in the same bitchy way..I'm totally convinced our advesary is indeed a female. Stand and Be Counted! Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms) (very) uppity "Indian" chick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: The Barden of England Date: 28 Aug 09 - 06:00 PM Is George still about I wonder? John Barden |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: MBSGeorge Date: 29 Aug 09 - 09:46 AM I have never pretended to be male Peace. My application stated Georgina - I put George in 'commonly known as'. It was the council's mess up. Grow up. You are nothing like your name. At least I manage not to use foul language. I haven't gone anywhere TBoE. I chose not to comment unless I am being targeted and even then I am not prepared to give words for those who wish to twist and misconstrue. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Emma B Date: 29 Aug 09 - 11:38 AM I met 'MBSGeorge' on mudcat some years ago. Despite my initial excusable 'mistake', she never attempted to hide her gender, indeed listening in mudchat to her trials of pregnancy and her overwhelming joy at the birth of her son would have left no one in any doubt that hadn't met her in person. Do not underestimate the BNP! They are not all the loud and foul mouthed ignorant thugs I encountered at Codnor! In an attempt to gain the respectability and the large budget that went with election to the European parliament, Griffin (he studied History and Law at Cambridge) put some of his swastica and Hitler tatooed bodyguards into smart suits in order to spread the lie that the BNP were representatives of the working class, upholders of Christianity and not racists. Subsequent UK governments have sadly betrayed many people in this country leaving people with a young child, like Georgina, struggling to find appropiate and affordable accomodation. It is the very people like this that the 'new' fascists have preyed on with their all too readily believed lie that 'foreigners' have priority for housing easily disproved by simple figures and facts but flaunted in the headlines of the right wing papers too! It is exactly the people like Georgina we should be reaching out to with equal concern and action for their plight and the truth about the racist policies of the BNP The dyed in the wool racists, like the trolls on this site, will never be convinced by either argument or insult and, indeed, the people we DO need to convince will only be put off by personal abuse, and who can blame them? Georgina is in no doubt what myself and others she knows feel about her association with the BNP and its anti semitism and racist agenda and membership policy She has never espoused racist beliefs here (or any where else that I'm aware of) and I think a personal attack on her on the basis of a well known 'nickname' is inexcusable. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Azizi Date: 29 Aug 09 - 11:55 AM She has never espoused racist beliefs here (or any where else that I'm aware of) -EmmaB That may be so, Emma, but has 'MBSGeorge' ever publicly, on this forum or elsewhere else, disavowed the racism, the homophobia, and the anti-Muslim policies and statements of the BNP party that she is a member of and represented in her failed attempt to secure an elected office? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 29 Aug 09 - 02:02 PM MBSGeorge, repeating what was in earlier threads, can you either confirm that you support the racist and neo-nazi principles of the BNP, which is your choice - but don't be surprised if decent people don't want to associate wit you because of this, or if you hare some other underlying motive, in which case I strongly recommend you do some background reading to realise the damage to social cohesion your actions either advertently or inadvertently lead to |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton From: Richard Bridge Date: 29 Aug 09 - 03:47 PM 1. There is a third option for MBS George. She could admit that she was wrong and rejoin decent society. Incidentally, the plight of the single mother is not universally pitied. Many, from the same side of the looking glass as the BNP assert that single women flock in droves to have children in order to be able to live a life of feckless luxury on benefits and without working (or without declaredly working). I have close awareness of the falsity of this picture. 2. The issue of whether to identify and target any such viper on our bosom is one for the site owner and the mods. As we are sometimes told, it is not a democracy. 3. Bill: there are two options. The alternatives are these: either you have not thought this through or you are a saboteur seeking to divide this community (yet further) by inference for reasons related to the central topic of this thread. The night is young, the bottle is full, and there is nothing on TV, so I will explain. The cloning of mudcat persona started shortly after the foundation of FaF. Indeed some who were more prominent in FaF were targetted first. FaF had its fakebook group. That was what it was. People ther referred to the discussion here of FaF and people here referred to the fakebook group. There seem to have been BNP twerps on fakebook for ages. It is a sad reflection on humanity. The FaF group will have led them here. Similarly, even BNP twerps can use a search engine. Searching for BNP ("oh, look, ma, I'm on the internet") will have found them the adverse references here. Some sought to enter debate and were trounced (or, in their sub-human language, "pwned"). That is likely to have driven them to seek some playground level revenge - but, politically more importantly, since the BNP sought to arrogate English folk music song and ritual to itself, it will have driven them to create Aunt Sallies - the evil twins of the 'catters who trounced them in debate here. Those evil twins could be called upon in the surreal world of fakebook, and beyond, to discredit opponents of the BNP - and FaF. It makes sense, in their essentially undemocratic form of debate to proceed as they have done. But what of your great point? Do the BNPers know us? Well, given that they can work a search engine it is easy for them to find ALL posts here, by name and reference. They don't need the mudcat search engine or its member only features to do that. It is part of the NP ethos that the white race cannot get jobs because teh ethnic minorities are simultanwoulsly claiming benefits and taking all the jobs, so the hard-core BNPers must be at home all day with nothng to do but watch daytime TV or trawl the internet (because, save for the reported convictions for benefit fraud, of course they would not stoop to workig while claiming) So your point falls. The fact that they do not in fact "know" us is established by the recent rantings of Sam Hudson (or was it Leah Green?) - who failed wholly to understand (why am I not surprised) a post of mine here and produced on their wall a pile of lunatic, infantile, pathetic, Walter Mitty (or to them, since they cannot read classic literature, its vocabulary being beyond them) "Chuck") gibberish about us fantasising about our 007 secret agents. So, Bill, if you have not done your homework, can you really be here to make the point you say you are making? If not, then what? QED. |