Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Amos Date: 23 Jul 09 - 03:14 PM I don't recall that she was forced to throw her hat in the ring; and in choosing to do so, she would ordinarily be expected to either steel herself against the slings and arrows of the spotlight, or ensure she was well-qualified enough to prevent them from being sent at her. In the event she did neither and leapt into the ring under-qualified and over-sensitive, both. Not a good public strategy, that. A |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Peace Date: 23 Jul 09 - 03:17 PM How can we miss her if she won't go away? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Riginslinger Date: 23 Jul 09 - 05:19 PM "I think they confuse her with Walter Brennan. They like her looks and her folksy ways." Frankly, I was never all that crazy about Walter Brennan's looks. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Ebbie Date: 23 Jul 09 - 05:31 PM I suppose as a young man his looks were OK. :) |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Little Hawk Date: 23 Jul 09 - 07:42 PM "They like her looks and her folksy ways." Of course! ;-) Nothing works like good looks (or the right kind of looks) and folksy ways to get someone into the White House. There's a long and proud tradition of getting American politicians elected on the basis of their looks and their folksy ways. It usually beats intellectual prowess and clear thinking by a mile. Being seen as too intellectual is usually a big drawback for American politicians, because they are thought to be "elitist" if they appear too well-spoken and don't say things like "Aw, shucks!" now and then. Fortunately, though, Obama's obviously keen intelligence was not enough to keep him from being elected this last time, because the Republicans had totally run ouf of credibility by 2008. And Obama does look good, of course, so he didn't have that particular strike against him. His main disadvantages were being "Black" (although he's half White)...being "Muslim" (although he isn't)...and being "elitist", of course, because he talks like a very intelligent and well-educated man and has an international outlook. Whoa! Scary!!! ;-) Could he be a secret Al Queda operative infiltrating the White House????? Yikes! I'm sure there were people who thought he was, and who still think so. Palin's main disadvantage in 2008, despite her good looks and folksy ways, was that the Republicans, as I said before, had totally blown their credibility in the previous 8 years. McCain picked her in what must have been a mood of recklessness or desperation...but I don't think it would have made much difference whom he had picked in the final analysis (though he could definitely have done a bit better than Palin). He was not going to win that election after the economy tanked on top of everything else that had gone wrong under Bush. No way. His only hope really was that enough Americans were still so terrified by the thought of a "Black" man in the White House that Obama couldn't win merely on account of his skin color. That, fortunately, didn't happen. It's very common to see a party get kicked out of office when the economy takes a nosedive. That's why Bush the Elder didn't get re-elected in '92, despite his successful war with Iraq the year before. That's why McCain had no chance in November. Palin was an intriguing sideshow to the main event. She both got McCain votes and lost him votes...but the economy was what killed him. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Riginslinger Date: 24 Jul 09 - 01:07 AM "I suppose as a young man his looks were OK. :)" It depended on who he was looking at! |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Stilly River Sage Date: 24 Jul 09 - 01:16 AM |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Joe Offer Date: 24 Jul 09 - 01:44 AM So, it's still a mystery to me why she's quitting a good job like Governor of Alaska. I'm thinking she doesn't want to face the ethics investigations, but I have to say that she really doesn't seem to be all that corrupt. I disagree with her politics, but the charges laid against here have all been of the penny-ante variety. Hey, maybe FoxNews offered her a job as an anchor? -Joe- |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Riginslinger Date: 24 Jul 09 - 08:21 AM I think she'll end up in the media someplace, and when she does I woudn't be surprised to see her go after all these whiners who have been going after her. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Peace Date: 25 Jul 09 - 05:04 PM Will she slap our peepees? Be still my beating heart . . . . |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: gnu Date: 25 Jul 09 - 05:36 PM From this. "I cannot express enough there is no plan after July 26. There is absolutely no plan," she told The Associated Press earlier this month. "The decision (to quit) was made in the vacuum of what was best for Alaska, and now I'm accepting all the options, but there is nothing planned," Stapleton said. Ahhh... be still my beating. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Little Hawk Date: 25 Jul 09 - 06:28 PM Peace - G'wan! Yer just indulging in wishful thinking when you say that. ;-) I think she'd make one hell of a hockey commentator and would give Don Cherry a real run for his money. If Cherry gets too old for the gig, then she can take over his spot. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: gnu Date: 25 Jul 09 - 07:46 PM Take over from The Cherry? Well... hey... ahhh... a woman?... well, now, don't get me wrong, eh, but, when ya comment on the world's fastest game and, well, face it, ya don't skate that fast, well, hey, it's like, ya know, that's all I gotta say about that there, eh? Geeze, eh? Ya know? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: robomatic Date: 25 Jul 09 - 07:53 PM What's the difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Peace Date: 25 Jul 09 - 08:08 PM Hey, Robomatic, what's the difference between a pitbull and a hockey mom? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: gnu Date: 25 Jul 09 - 08:31 PM Lips stuck? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Ebbie Date: 25 Jul 09 - 09:12 PM Maybe here's the problem: "The decision (to quit) was made in the vacuum of what was best for Alaska, and now I'm accepting all the options, but there is nothing planned," Stapleton said. The "vacuum of what is best"? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Alice Date: 25 Jul 09 - 09:18 PM Well, that is the typical Palin-speak we have come to expect. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Peace Date: 25 Jul 09 - 09:19 PM Just struck me: who the heck resigns on a Sunday? Maybe she'll have a revelation while in church and reverse her decision. Maybe GOD will TELL her to hang onto the governorship. Folks, it ain't over until it's over. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Melissa Date: 25 Jul 09 - 09:23 PM Maybe "vacuum of what is best" is her fancy way of saying she has decided that the job sucks? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Ebbie Date: 25 Jul 09 - 11:35 PM Maybe so, Melissa :)- nah, she's not that subtle. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Peace Date: 26 Jul 09 - 08:50 AM 0 |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Micca Date: 26 Jul 09 - 11:14 AM " The Ides of March have come,Soothsayer........" |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Ebbie Date: 26 Jul 09 - 12:03 PM "A word means whatever I want it to mean." I'm beginning to think that Sarah Palin will have a brilliant career in politics. (Eb) "She's feeling shackled, she can't really do her job in the fullest because of the record requests, ethics complaints, the lawsuits," said Mike Nizich, Palin's chief of staff, at a press conference following her resignation. "Nizich said that was a tactic of Palin's opponents, to "throw the governor on her heels" and keep her from being able to govern. "Those claims are contradicted by records released under the Alaska Public Records Law and interviews with administration and other sources. They show a pattern of the Palin administration using public resources and the state's ethics laws in an effort to block and discredit both frivolous and credible charges made against the governor. "Most of the cost so far stems from that obstructionist effort and not the complaints themselves, the Empire's inquiry shows. "That's a disappointment for some of Palin's early allies on ethics issues, including former House Minority Leader Ethan Berkowitz of Anchorage. "The administration has been bullying people who lodge complaints," he said. "That's a completely unacceptable use of the government's power." ***************************************** "Palin and her staff also have been misstating the outcome of at least two known investigations. In her resignation statement, she claimed that all the complaints against her - 15 by her count on July 3 - had been dismissed."We've won!" she said." "To claim an unbroken string of victories, Palin had to exclude the legislative investigation that found she had abused her power, a Personnel Board case in which she reimbursed the state for questionable travel expenses, and another Personnel Board case in which a staff member was referred for ethics training. That her characterization of them as frivolous has been accepted by many in the media is frustrating to some observers." http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/072609/loc_471000849.shtml |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Peace Date: 26 Jul 09 - 12:06 PM Has she now resigned? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Ebbie Date: 26 Jul 09 - 12:25 PM The resignation, Peace, will be official about 3:00 this afternoon. It will be televised. Another editorial from today's paper, with an interesting insight: "Palin's chance to become a contender for the Republican nomination depends on one thing: she must prove she can mobilize voters to elect Republicans in the 2010 mid-term elections. Palin receives adulatory receptions from social conservatives across the country, but here in Alaska she's a lightning rod for controversy and criticism. Had she remained our governor, the drumbeat of adverse news from Alaska would have intensified. Freeing herself from that wellspring of controversy will quiet fears of right-wing congressional and senatorial candidates that some political, legal or personal bombshell lobbed from Alaska could strike while she is campaigning in their district. Eliciting invitations from those candidates in 2010 is essential to Palin's strategy. Without those invitations, she has no chance to display her star power and prove she can mobilize the social conservative base and win elections." ******************************************************** "During her first 18 months as governor, Palin focused on overhauling the state's policies on gas pipelines and petroleum taxes. She was brilliantly successful. One reason was the alliance she forged with Democratic legislators. Another was the reluctance of Republican legislators who supported of the oil industry to oppose Palin in the face of her unprecedented popularity. In September 2007, ten months after her inauguration, according to the Hays Research Group, an astounding 87 percent of Alaska voters had positive or very positive feelings about Palin. "That has all changed. Palin's alliance with Democrats disappeared in the smoke of the 2008 Troopergate investigation. Relations with Democrats further soured after Palin's nomination as the Republican vice-presidential candidate and her campaign attacks on Barack Obama. A Hays poll taken in May showed Palin's popularity among Alaska voters down by 33 points. That dramatic drop emboldened her Republican legislative opponents. In terms of shaping policy, Palin's work as governor is finished, regardless of whether she stays or resigns." "Palin Resignation Only Chance for 2012 Run" |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Peace Date: 26 Jul 09 - 12:27 PM Is she so deluded that she thinks she could run and win in 2012? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Jeri Date: 26 Jul 09 - 12:35 PM Damn. I thought I had a little gas and missed it. So 3PM there is 6PM here maybe? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Little Hawk Date: 26 Jul 09 - 01:24 PM This is good. Very good. I have high hopes that Chongo can persuade Sarah to run on the Primate Party ticket in 2012. They both love using guns. They are both extremely outspoken and not afraid of pressing their point. They both use folksy language. They both don't give a toot what anyone thinks about them. The only problem is that Sarah may want the top spot in the 2012 Primate Party ticket rather than the VP... I can't see it happening. There's no way that apes and monkeys nationwide will vote for a human female to represent them in the Oval Office. They're just too prejudiced to do that, I'm afraid, so it's unrealistic to expect them to. Anyway, Chongo has the presidential spot all wrapped up already. Nope. She's gonna have to settle for VP or Secretary of State under Chongo Chimp. I bet he's working right now on some way of sweetening the deal so that she agrees to play second fiddle. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Ebbie Date: 26 Jul 09 - 01:33 PM Little Hawk, remember that she kills animals. From a distance. I have little doubt but that Chongo would end his illustrious career hanging on her wall. Jeri, 3 o'clock in Alaska will be 7 o'clock on the East Coast. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Ebbie Date: 26 Jul 09 - 01:43 PM Resignation Will Be Streamed Live beginnging 2:45 ADT Might even be beginning at same time. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Little Hawk Date: 26 Jul 09 - 01:51 PM Well, yeah, Ebbie...but has she ever killed an animal that's wearing a pinstripe suit and a fedora and smoking a cigar? Has she? I don't think so. Naw...all ya need with a gal like Sarah is to make the proper introductions and formalities. Sure, if Chongo were to doff all his clothes and go shambling around through the tundra grazing on wild berries and Sarah saw him....well, yeah, she'd shoot him for sure! But we are talkin' negotiation here. Phone calls. Faxes. Power lunches at local delis. Skype. Text messaging. Meetings on the third floor of Primate Central. Speeches at local riding associations. I think we can depend on Sarah to behave in an appropriate manner, don't you? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: gnu Date: 26 Jul 09 - 02:49 PM 14:45 ADT was two hours ago. Atlantic Daylight Time. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Ebbie Date: 26 Jul 09 - 03:08 PM Ha, I say. Gnu, ADT in this country means Alaska Daylig Hmmmmm. Wrong again. It's AST. sheeeeeeet |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: gnu Date: 26 Jul 09 - 03:55 PM Atlantic Standard Time? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Peace Date: 26 Jul 09 - 03:56 PM Ebbioe. You have always been a sweetheart. Would you please message me when she's gone? I ain't got a watch. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Amos Date: 26 Jul 09 - 04:23 PM IT's 12:21 Anchorage time right now. while New York is 16:21 and San Diego is 13:21. Paris is already at 22:21, London at 21:21. Any questions? A |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: GUEST,SharonA, without enough time to log in Date: 26 Jul 09 - 04:42 PM Only one question: Why is she waiting till 2:45 Alaska time? IMO, it shoulda been done one second after midnight Greenwich Mean Time. But then, really, it shoulda been done months ago... Counting the seconds... |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: gnu Date: 26 Jul 09 - 05:47 PM Way ho? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: robomatic Date: 26 Jul 09 - 05:53 PM Ushering in Governor Parnell, so maybe the Irish will be freed! |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Ebbie Date: 26 Jul 09 - 06:53 PM After checking around, I find that MSNBC/ Breaking News on the computer offers the best, quickest access to the resignation/swearing in. I have it on now. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Riginslinger Date: 26 Jul 09 - 07:55 PM She discovered that big time politics is a game one can't play without money. Once she has the money, my guess is, she'll decide the game isn't worth the effort. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Ebbie Date: 26 Jul 09 - 08:06 PM We have a new governor. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Peace Date: 26 Jul 09 - 08:08 PM You wouldn't have needed one had you not been driving so fast. |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Amos Date: 26 Jul 09 - 09:13 PM Congratulations to the much-esteemed State of Alaska on their progress. A |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Ebbie Date: 26 Jul 09 - 09:17 PM All right so far. :) |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Ebbie Date: 26 Jul 09 - 09:18 PM *g*, Peace! |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Riginslinger Date: 26 Jul 09 - 11:08 PM Once again, for those who remember the movie "The Sting," if you're gunna make it in the big con, you gotta have money! |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Peace Date: 26 Jul 09 - 11:24 PM Rig, love you as I do, and so seldom seeing you miss the target, man, you fucked this one. They did it with NO money, and when the world is against you, I will be your friend nevertheless. Can yo believe that's a word? |
Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin will resign on July 26! From: Peace Date: 26 Jul 09 - 11:40 PM Ebbie, please allow me to emmbarrasss/embarasass/emmbarass make you blush. Of all the people I ever met on Mudcat, you are it. |