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Subject: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Azizi Date: 13 Mar 05 - 01:34 AM Why are there so many songs about rainbows? And what is on the other side? If you could go OVER THE RAINBOW, where would you be? Imagine that.. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Troll Date: 13 Mar 05 - 03:29 AM You'd be on the other side. DUH! I'd rather be above the rainbow with the happy little bluebirds. Flying. troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: John MacKenzie Date: 13 Mar 05 - 03:34 AM I live at Rainbow's End G |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 13 Mar 05 - 08:49 AM I don't know what is OVER the rainbow, but at the end is a pot of gold leprachauns... or something... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST,vl Date: 13 Mar 05 - 09:09 AM The head lamp of an oncoming train! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 13 Mar 05 - 09:13 AM No, no, no! That's the light at the end of the tunnel! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST,*Laura* Date: 13 Mar 05 - 09:14 AM At the end of the rainbow, as well as a pot of gold, there's taps. Taps of fruit juice or paint - I'm not sure which. And different flavours of colours for each different colour. And (somewhere) over the rainbow (way up high) theres a place that I dreamt of once in a lullabye! Apparently. xLx |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Alaska Mike Date: 13 Mar 05 - 09:20 AM On certain days when the sky is clear and the temperatures are extremely cold and there are numerous ice crystals in the air, a rainbow will form in a circle around the sun. These are called "sun dogs" up here in the northland and usually you can only see the sides of the circle (like two parentheses around the sun). They are the brightest rainbows I've ever seen. In answer to your question, clear blue sky is all you will find over these types of rainbows. Mike |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 13 Mar 05 - 09:25 AM I don't know what's over the rainbow. I don't even know precisely what causes rainbows. But I do know that most of us were told in school that they are caused by something in the atmosphere acting as a prism and splitting plain old white light into its various spectra. And I know that explanation is basically a lie. It is true only in the most analogous and methaphorical sense. The actual mechanisms that happen to produce similar observed effects are totally different. And I know that there are also a fair number of other Mudcatters who are aware that the rainbow-as-prism explanation is a lie because I read it in a book that Terry Pratchett collaboratied on and there are a buncha Pratchett freaks around here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: jacqui.c Date: 13 Mar 05 - 09:29 AM What is over the rainbow? Well, in the Wizard of Oz it was the realisation that 'there's no place like home'. Maybe a bit trite, and maybe where you are isn't really 'home'. For me I'm there right now - don't need to think about going over the rainbow any more. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: John MacKenzie Date: 13 Mar 05 - 09:58 AM Weigh a pie, Laura? Giok ¦¬] |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Jeri Date: 13 Mar 05 - 10:55 AM I think it's where the ghosts of dreams go. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Mr Red Date: 13 Mar 05 - 01:38 PM you would be in a shop buying cakes - and they they would weigh a pie all thogether now Somewhere over the rainbow .................... (now go up two lines) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Ebbie Date: 13 Mar 05 - 01:44 PM Jacqui, your comment reminds me of another affirming thought I love. In the summertime, I do tours and the history of Juneau generally and this old house museum specifically. One day I was talking with a man who, with his wife, travels all over the world, rarely staying anywhere longer than three months. I ssked him, Where is "home"? He indicated his wife across the room and said, Wherever SHE is. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Don Firth Date: 13 Mar 05 - 01:50 PM What's over the rainbow? Oz. The place is overrun with munchkins, yellow brick roads, wallabies, wizards, Alice Springs, Joan Sutherland, Crockadile Dundee, hot-air balloons, koalas, witches, the Sidney Opera House, flying monkeys, and lions and tigers and bears, oy vey!! Weird place! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Mr Red Date: 13 Mar 05 - 02:39 PM and how many Thylacenes? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: frogprince Date: 13 Mar 05 - 04:20 PM Ebbie, Tom Paxton put that in song a few years ago: "Home to me is anywhere you are". It rang so true for me the first time I heard it, it brought tears to my eyes. I think I've made it to the right end of the rainbow, in at least that respect, and found it well worth the trip. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST Date: 13 Mar 05 - 04:48 PM There's a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow ..... but when I got there, I found that I should have been at the other end. Doug C |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST,Doug Chadwick Date: 13 Mar 05 - 04:50 PM How come I'm a GUEST? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Doug Chadwick Date: 13 Mar 05 - 04:53 PM That's better. I feel like myself again |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Bunnahabhain Date: 13 Mar 05 - 05:58 PM A rainbow is made out of love, and hope is what's at it end. It's what allows us to walk across it in the first place. Bunnahabhain. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: woodsie Date: 13 Mar 05 - 06:16 PM A teenage Mexican. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 13 Mar 05 - 07:12 PM I have seen a double rainbow - one has the colour order reversed - and I have heard that rarely a triple rainbow has been seen. This thread just proves that you can even make a fuss over the rainbow.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Rapparee Date: 13 Mar 05 - 07:51 PM You can't go the other side of a rainbow, 'cause it only has one side. On the non-existent other side the rainbow doesn't exist. This is wonderfully philosophical.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Troll Date: 13 Mar 05 - 07:58 PM Waddaya mean "non-existant"? I've been there LOTS of times! Although it's usually after I've fiddled with my medication. You know, different color combinations, numbers, that sort of thing. Gotta run. They're looking for me again. In haste, troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Boab Date: 13 Mar 05 - 11:39 PM ---Er---a Scotsman wi' a pie??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 13 Mar 05 - 11:52 PM Science: I saw a slide once where a physicist (Robert Greenler) had put infrared film in his camera and photographed the infrared bow that inside the red stripe of the rainbow. Quite possibly the first time anyone had ever seen it. Fiction: The Wizard of Oz was written in 1915. Dorothy is living with her aunt and uncle. So she has lost her parents, perhaps to WWI and/or an epidemic. (Public health was pretty dismal then.) The land over the rainbow is Heaven, where her mother and father have gone. Instead of Heaven, she gets Oz. Poor kid. But at least you can get back from Oz. In the book, Dorothy's trip to Oz was real. It was Hollywood that tacked on the cheap ending that makes her adventure seem like something she dreamed in a coma. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Peace Date: 14 Mar 05 - 12:08 AM ROY G BIV and if ya've ever seen a double rainbow, notice that they are mirror images. One goes ROY G BIV and the other goes VIB G YOR. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 14 Mar 05 - 05:37 AM Ah! the two Russian Twins... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Davetnova Date: 14 Mar 05 - 06:08 AM What colour was the photograph of the infrared bow? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: SINSULL Date: 14 Mar 05 - 07:40 AM Over the rainbow is where you will find all the the good doggies and kitties and scaly and fuzzy friends we were lucky enough to know on this side. I still laugh at Sister Blister insisting that we wouldn't find our pets in Heaven becuase they don't have souls. The hubris of it! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Pied Piper Date: 14 Mar 05 - 08:31 AM 'O see ye not yon narrow road, So thick beset wi' thorns and briers? That is the Path of Righteousness, Though after it but few inquires. 'And see ye not yon braid, braid road, 45 That lies across the lily leven? That is the Path of Wickedness, Though some call it the Road to Heaven. 'And see ye not yon bonny road That winds about the fernie brae? 50 That is the Road to fair Elfland, Where thou and I this night maun gae. PP |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Bunnahabhain Date: 14 Mar 05 - 09:00 AM Infra red photos are black and white, and I think the invisible bands on the inside should show up as very dark in one. I've not used the stuff for ages. The full circle rainbows, seen from tall mountains and aircraft are very pretty. Bunnahabhain. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST Date: 14 Mar 05 - 10:24 AM Infrared photos can also be done in colour. The developing is a normal colour process, and using the film (100 ASA) requires no lens correction. FYI. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST,Brucie Date: 14 Mar 05 - 10:25 AM Sorry. The above was me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST Date: 14 Mar 05 - 11:35 AM Can they? I've never seen that before. Thank you for one of those useless bits of trivia.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST,Heimdall Date: 14 Mar 05 - 11:47 AM Over Bifrost is Valhalla, should you be chosen by the Valkyries. If you are not, Hel awaits. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 14 Mar 05 - 12:33 PM Good question, Davetnova. I remember that the photo of the infrared bow was in black and white, but I don't remember whether the infrared bow was darker or lighter than the rest. Bunn... says dark. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Peace Date: 14 Mar 05 - 12:43 PM Infrared film senses heat. Colour infrared provides a slide that gives a colour shift. (It has been years since I used that film, because there are maybe three labs in North America that will process it at a reasonable price). Where the heat is on black and white film is where the print will show darkest. It can be used to take a picture of yer house so you can see where your main areas of heat loss are. As an incidental thing. On the lens of the camera you should see a curved line that goes fron the camera body to the end of the lens. That line is the black and white correction line for focussing b and w infrared film. You focus the camera normally--that is, look through your 'lens' and focus. Hold fairly still. Take the lens and without changing the positioning of the camera, turn the lens so that the curve line meets with the 'notch' line on the camrea. That will have focussed you for the shot. When you look through the lensd to take the picture, it woill appear to be out of focus. It would be with any other film but b and w infrared. I realize my explanation of the curved line thing leaves lots to be desired. If yer gonna shoot infrared, ask at the camera store. Someone there should help you. BM |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Bunnahabhain Date: 14 Mar 05 - 01:12 PM Sorry, the above guest was me. Yep, that explaination of IR focusing confused me, and I've done it. I'm just changing over to a digital SLR, but I'm holding onto a film camera for things like IR, and star trails, and other unusual tricks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Peace Date: 14 Mar 05 - 04:28 PM Maybe then you could take a shot at explaining it, Bunnahabhain. I know the job I did bolloxed it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST Date: 14 Mar 05 - 06:38 PM Nada |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Bunnahabhain Date: 14 Mar 05 - 09:06 PM No Brucie, you did a better job than I could. I realize my explanation of the curved line thing leaves lots to be desired. If yer gonna shoot infrared, ask at the camera store. Someone there should help you is honest and helpful. I cheat. Tripod and f 32. I know it will be in focus then. The only camera I have with an IR curve on it is a Medium format TLR, from the mid 60's. The modern ones have nothing of the sort on them. Bunnhabhain |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: heric Date: 14 Mar 05 - 09:11 PM Bronco Bob's Apricot Chipotle Sauce |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 14 Mar 05 - 09:30 PM Infrared light has a different range of wavelengths than visible light, so it is bent a different amountby the lens - thus it will be focused by the lens at a different distance - this means that it will be out of focus compared with normal light. This effect is more pronounced when the lens is wide open - closing down the aperture to the f32 setting gives you an opening closer to a pinhole - where these effects disappear. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Bunnahabhain Date: 14 Mar 05 - 10:37 PM I've been trying to find a good, simple, explaination of focusing for IR, and can't. And Brucie demonstarted how hard ir is to write one. Google it, experiment, and don't expect it to be great at first. Like lots of things in life really.... There is one excption, if you use a mirror lens, which focuses visible and IR at the same point. 500mm is a useful general purpose lens isn't it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Peace Date: 14 Mar 05 - 11:40 PM I hear you, Bunn. Kodak put out a good small magazine on infrared b and w. I have it somewhere. Maybe I can come up with an SBN or ISBN. I'll look. It's in a box, so don't wait up nights. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Peace Date: 14 Mar 05 - 11:55 PM Picture worth a thousand words Good article |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: GUEST Date: 15 Mar 05 - 07:51 AM bah to all that technical lingo. we all need hopes and dreams. sometimes they come true. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's over the rainbow? From: Azizi Date: 15 Mar 05 - 08:43 AM I love the fact that this thread has become a place for sharing witty comments, reflections about hopes & dreams, AND technical information about photography. When you start a thread you never know where the conversation will lead. I've been delighted at the twists and turns that this thread has taken thus far. Keep imagining!! Keep thinking!! Keep sharing!! Azizi |
