BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 02:13 PM

...but no real harm done. How can you know that? Because you've been told? How very reassuring...

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: artbrooks
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 02:28 PM

Yes, there are millions of terabytes of data on all Americans - and most people in other, less important, parts of the world - stored in encrypted Cray supercomputers in Area 51, after having been transported there in the dead of night in unmarked black helicopters by the Blackwater security company. The secret investigation of the (otherwise publicly available) information on the three leading Presidential candidates by minimum-wage clerks is only the tip of the iceberg. It is vital that the US Congress invest hundreds of thousands of (depreciated) dollars and hundreds of hours of time that would be otherwise wasted on taking care of the business of the nation in looking into this terrible situation.

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 03:34 PM

I also can't figure out why people think the Democrats aren't doing the same sorts of spying on their opponents.

It could be a long few weeks to the next Democratic primary, obviously, if this is the best news of what is happening in the world we can get.

Tibet is going down in flames, Iraq up in flames, the Kurds are revolting in Turkey, and this is the best the US MSM can come up with?

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 04:18 PM

All of this is just something to disturb the ignorant.

What is required on the application? (There are supplementary forms depending on your answers to the basic form and I have included some of the questions.)

Date and place of birth
Date and place of birth of parents
Citizenship, naturalization, etc. data.
Length of stay at other places you have lived (For Obama this would include Jakarta, Honolulu, etc. in addition to birthplace. For McCain it would include U. S. Canal Zone, etc.)
Name, address, email address, former addresses
Former names or aliases
Immediate Travel plans
Names of two guarantors who will vouch for you
Social Security Number (Social Insurance Number in Canada).
Date and last place of income tax filing

All of these data are easy to get through investigation services and credit data concerns.

The Social Security Number is on your tax returns, your mortgage contract and loan data, your banker's data, stock brokers data, etc., etc., etc.
Easy to find by one in the finance or banking business.

Again, I say, ho hum!

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: number 6
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 05:13 PM

Good Lord ... politiks never ceases to amaze me .. apparently Obama's foreign policy advisor is CEO of a company whose employee is accused of improperly looking at the passport files of presidential candidates and is a former CIA official.

and the intrigue continues

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 05:14 PM

My, my...don't those Obama surrogates just keep getting curiouser and curiouser!

Hehehe--

THIS JUST IN AT CNN FOLKS! WHAT A FRIGGIN' CONTROVERSY!!!

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The CEO of a company whose employee is accused of improperly looking at the passport files of presidential candidates is a consultant to the Barack Obama campaign, a source said Saturday.

John Brennan, president of the Analysis Corp., advises the Illinois Democrat on foreign policy and intelligence issues, the source said.

Brennan briefed the media on behalf of the campaign this month.

The executive is a former senior CIA official and former interim director of the National Counterterrorism Center.

He contributed $2,300 to the Obama campaign in January.

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: number 6
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 05:15 PM

amazing isn't it GG.

Just amazing.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 05:48 PM

What some folks won't do in the name of oppositional research, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 06:01 PM

Just politics. That's what makes it interesting. Now what is buried under the woodpile?
Surely not only that little bit of data on the applications!

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 06:05 PM

That's just plain weird.

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 06:14 PM

But wait! It gets EVEN BETTER! Now the CNN story is saying the CEOs of the two contractor companies whose extremely good employees who just got caught snooping--also has ties to the Clinton campaign!

Yeehaw!

Looks like the Obama military adviser surrogate was Wright to accuse the ole HillBilly show of McCarthyism.

Yeah, the Obama/Clinton machines picked a VERY convenient week to go on vacation, didn't they?

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 06:25 PM

Oh wait, I may have this wrong.

Apparently, the Obama campaign was trying to pre-emptively blame the Clinton campaign for Passportgate. They accused Clinton of spying yesterday on the Today show yesterday (Friday) morning.

My bad.

The Clinton thing is only a contribution to the Clinton campaign by the CEO of one of the 2 contracting firms whose employees breached security.

The Obama thing is bigger than that story. Apparently, the Obama campaign link is actually an ADVISER to the Obama campaign on intelligence and foreign policy!

The person who snooped on behalf of Obama's man is a "model employee" who has extensive experience working at State. But he was, according to current reports, "just curious".

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 06:31 PM

So it wouldn't be too much of a shot in the dark to suggest that he moight be a spy of some sort - if his speciality is intelligence.

Only question is - for whom?

Are we dealing with another watergate?

or parhaps Putin is getting braver ...

Now that's made it go sour!

Unless it's a cynical deliberate distraction hot on the heels of the last one ...

Dagnammit - this is Kerrraaazzyyyy!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 07:01 PM

Good gracious. What makes me feel that I'm being inundated by yellow journalism?

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: Azizi
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 07:04 PM

In my opinion, investigationa should be done wherever the trail leads. I'd prefer an independent investigator with no political ties to the Bush administrations {both Bush administrations, father & son}or to the {Bill} Clinton administration, the Obama campaign, the Hillary Clinton campaign, and/or the McCain campaign.

And yes, it would cost money. But I believe that it would be worth it to restore a measure of faith in [another] United States system that apparently is broken.

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: Azizi
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 07:04 PM

investigationa=investigations

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 07:07 PM

You'd have to be stupid to thing that the CEO of the company would have to be part of the trail on something like this. The employees are just contractors. In fact the companies they work for would tend to know that the files were being monitored and not want the employees to jeopardize the contract, especially after the first one was fired.

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 07:13 PM

Ding ding ding ding ding!

Jack the Sailor wins the Apologetics Prize of the Night for the Obama Camp!

Right you are, Jack! Those employees were "just curious"!!!

There is simply no other explanation that isn't "stupid"!!!

And ignore that man behind the curtain!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 07:23 PM

Guest, Guest,

That is just dumb. I didn't apologize for anyone. I just said that it doesn't make sense for what happened to be at the orders from their company. These are just temporary workers. They could have any affiliation. The contracting company has nothing to gain but bad publicity and they could lose their contract. I know CNN is puffing the connection up and trying to make news out of it. But that is because CNN is stupid news for stupid people. The connection makes no sense. It is a CNN red herring. Way to fall for it Guest, Guest.

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: GUEST,Stupid Guest
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 07:28 PM

Thank you.

WE are WE are STUPID.

YOU are right, Jack. This couldn't POSSIBLY be dirty tricks from the Obama or Clinton camp.

Oh wait, you are an Obamamaniac, I forgot. OK, so yes, it is plain to see this is just more smear tactics of Obama by the Clinton McCarthy camp. For sure. I'm sure of that now.

Obama camp good.

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: Riginslinger
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 08:10 PM

I've missed some things on this thread. But what could one expect to find in a passport file? And now that it's been made public that all three files were violated, don't they need to investigate all three?

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: number 6
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 08:30 PM

"You'd have to be stupid to thing that the CEO of the company would have to be part of the trail on something like this."

Hmmmmmmm ..... a lot more stupid things have been done by more than a few company CEO's lately. But than scapegoats are cheap easy to find.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: GUEST,Guezzt
Date: 22 Mar 08 - 08:32 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 23 Mar 08 - 09:38 AM

Let us keep hope alive.

Subject: RE: BS: Filegate- Obama's Passport File Breached
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Mar 08 - 10:20 AM

I am going to file for a passport under the name Red Herring.