BS: Cameron & Tax

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Greg F.
Date: 08 Apr 16 - 01:00 PM

Say goodnight, Professor.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 08 Apr 16 - 01:08 PM

Richard, see the pamphlet here.
https://www.eureferendum.gov.uk/why-the-government-believes-we-should-remain/eu-referendum-leaflet/

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Raggytash
Date: 08 Apr 16 - 01:19 PM

Cameron and Tax.

If you lack the intelligence to start another thread, which seems apparent, ask your Mother. I'm sure she'll be able to do so.


Just saying like !!

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Apr 16 - 01:40 PM

Go over here to discuss the leaflet.

If that is to difficult. Just f...

Oh, best not :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 08 Apr 16 - 02:51 PM

Not sure who those two posts were aimed at.
Steve presumably, as he raised the pamphlet issue on this thread.

Certainly not me anyway. I am an orphan.

And I certainly don't want to be accused again of assuming that they were about me.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Llanfair
Date: 08 Apr 16 - 04:03 PM

Is it worth looking at the big picture......

On the whole, politicians are self-serving folks, who say and do what they consider they need to do to gain votes to win a place in a level of society they consider to be elite and powerful.

A large percentage of the conservative party are independently wealthy, giving them a blinkered view of the people they purport to govern.

Honesty and integrity are not in the job description.

The rest of the tories are now trying to justify their offshore money, and, with any luck, this will bring down the present government.

Though, when you consider the alternatives........................,

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 08 Apr 16 - 05:05 PM

I'd wager that a good proportion of government funds out of which all your lovely state pensions and numerous benefits are paid, are invested offshore TO SPREAD THE RISK - sound investment sense??? I think so!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Apr 16 - 05:52 PM

Perhaps you'd like to tell us what we can do about it? Send our old age pensions back, perhaps?

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 06:57 AM

What would you like to do?

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Iains
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 07:49 AM

I would think that there are more than a few of our elected representatives spitting nails after the release of the panama papers.
"All in it together" rings very hollow when we find out the antics of our 'leaders' Billy Bunter has been extremely reluctant to divulge information and dragging it's release over several days has damaged his credibility. However to believe anything a politician says is to have the mental capacity of a severely retarded goldfish. The days of both camoron and the squeaky draper are hopefully now numbered

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: The Sandman
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 08:14 AM

Ido not understand how Jim is allowed to vote but i am not i have never been allowed to vote on european referendums since I have been in ireland.
I could not vote on the Lisbon treaty. anyway that was a democratic joke, wrong resuklt please vote again
STRANGE I THOUGHT I WAS A EUROPEAN
I HAVE D BESIDE MY NAME I THINK THAT MEANS I AM DODGY.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Raggytash
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 08:18 AM

?

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 08:36 AM

"I do not understand how Jim is allowed to vote "
You retain your right to vote in British elections up to (I think) fifteen years - I think you have to apply to vote in referenda.
As I make a point of not voting for any of them (it only encourages them), I'm not sure of the details.
I might venture a joke and suggest what D stands for, but best not eh!!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: The Sandman
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 08:21 PM

I am talking about voting on irish referendums like the lisbon treaty, I was not allowed to vote in that farce despite the fact that I am European, you only have a D put by your name in Ireland.
Jim, its known as democracy, but in reality only the very wealthy have there interests protected.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Apr 16 - 04:19 AM

Can you think of anyone you could report for tax evasion? :-)

Report tax evasion - GOV.UK site

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 10 Apr 16 - 06:32 AM

Just about anyone who offers to do work cheaper for payment in cash - there are a great many of those around! How many of those are on benefits I wonder ??

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Raggytash
Date: 10 Apr 16 - 06:38 AM

I take it you do so, Bonzo.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 10 Apr 16 - 07:46 AM

No, fully on PAYE thank goodness.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 10 Apr 16 - 02:09 PM

"Whatever critics may desire, the UK's tax law is not governed by a "morality code", it is based on statute and is structured so that people, by following the rules, pay no more tax than they are legally obliged to."

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Raggytash
Date: 10 Apr 16 - 02:31 PM

If you are going to use a quote it is normal practice to cite where the quote originates.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: DMcG
Date: 10 Apr 16 - 02:45 PM

And what, pray, is the statute based on? Even if you think it is about maximising some financial measure, whether that is a good thing is a moral judgement.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 10 Apr 16 - 05:42 PM

The moral judgement is surely based on whether or not one is complying with current Tax Legislation. If by concession tax liabilities can be minimised by arranging one's affairs in a way that is allowed by current Tax Legislation then what is wrong with that. A parent with available funds is foolish not to use the annual tax free gifts allowance of £3000 to minimise liability to inheritance tax.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Apr 16 - 08:40 PM

There's a moral distinction between using measures specifically provided to reduce a tax bill, such as allowing parents to make gifts to their children, and setting up artificial financial structures designed by bent accountants to take advantage of loopholes.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: DMcG
Date: 11 Apr 16 - 01:52 AM

If you think back to the Uk Parliamentary expenses scandal most Affected MPs claimed quite correctly thatched acted within the rule book. And much good did it do them: the groundswell of public moral outrage forced them to repay and the rules were changed.

Same here. It is all very well saying you stayed within the rules. Moral outrage can overrule that.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: DMcG
Date: 11 Apr 16 - 02:36 AM

Sorry for the gibberish above. Early morning, no glasses and and Autocorrecting phone is a lousy combination

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 11 Apr 16 - 03:04 AM

I turned my autocorrecting off!

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 11 Apr 16 - 03:13 AM

Early morning! - just discovered that my distance glasses were not where they should be - luckily found them by my wife's PC which I'd switched on this morning, so that she can access it through Teamviewer from hospital today.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Apr 16 - 03:30 AM

Statute needs to reverse IRC -v- Westminster. Tax shams should be generally ineffective.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & Tax
From: Raggytash
Date: 11 Apr 16 - 07:06 AM

More interesting reading:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36009963

The blue clicky wouldn't play ball so I'm afraid it's a copy and paste job.