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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Charley Noble Date: 20 Jan 09 - 12:51 PM I have some old ice skates that I would have gladly donated, had I managed to get it together. Free at last! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: artbrooks Date: 20 Jan 09 - 01:10 PM Oh frabjulous day, kaloo kalay!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Amos Date: 20 Jan 09 - 01:18 PM Congratulations to all those who survived. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: dick greenhaus Date: 20 Jan 09 - 03:04 PM Only remembered. Only remembered Only remembered for what we have done.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Bill D Date: 20 Jan 09 - 06:16 PM He's gone? He's really gone? Can we sweep up now? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: GUEST,Susu's Hubby Date: 20 Jan 09 - 06:42 PM He may be out of the White House but I think that you'll be severely disappointed at the amount of change that won't happen with Obama. Pelosi has staked out her claim on the congress and will chase her own agenda which is different that what Obama has been speaking about. So we'll have a president butting heads with the speaker of the house. Sounds like big change to me. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: artbrooks Date: 20 Jan 09 - 07:19 PM Nancy Pelosi hardly controls Congress, nor does she have freedom to "chase her own agenda". The House of Representatives is only half of Congress, and has always gone for more radical legislation - regardless of which party was in power. However, even if Franken finally wins in Minnesota, the Republicans (with 41% of the seats in the Senate) can still block any bill they seriously disapprove of through the power of the filibuster. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Ron Davies Date: 20 Jan 09 - 07:54 PM Politics is always "the art of the possible". It is singularly stupid to talk about Pelosi as one "who will chase her own agenda". There will obviously be compromise--even within the Democratic party-- but that just shows the intelligence both of our new president, who knows how to marshall his forces to accomplish what he wants to get done, and the intelligence of Pelosi, who also knows political realities. It is actually a very good sign that Obama seems to be willing to reach out to people all across the political spectrum. "who will chase her own agenda" only shows the poorly hidden frustration of the poster, whose severely flawed champions and narrow attitudes---amply on view on Mudcat--have been soundly defeated. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Amos Date: 20 Jan 09 - 07:55 PM A jaded prognostication, SH, and as far as I see, unfounded in fact. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Bobert Date: 20 Jan 09 - 08:01 PM Go peddle yer papers, Hubster... No one buys into yer sour grapes crap... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Ron Davies Date: 20 Jan 09 - 08:11 PM As usual Bobert cuts right to the heart of the topic. SH's post is perfect sour grapes---nothing more--therefore it's plainly not reasonable to expect any sense from it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Charley Noble Date: 20 Jan 09 - 08:23 PM The job won't be easy, given the ditch we're in, but I wish Obama well. I also was amused by some commentary today when Obama was musing about those who run for President. Paraphrasing, he said that someone must be a little insane to aspire to be leader of the free world. I like his sense of awareness and I hope he doesn't lose it. We don't need a celebrity in the White House now. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Alice Date: 21 Jan 09 - 12:00 AM Adios, Mr. Ex POTUS, don't let the... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Mr Happy Date: 21 Jan 09 - 06:49 AM A parting gesture? By George W. Bush I think we all agree, the past is over This is still a dangerous world It쳌fs a world of madmen and uncertainty And potential mential losses Rarely is the question asked Is our children learning? Will the highways of the Internet become more few? How many hands have I shaked? They misunderestimate me I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity I know that the human being and the fish can coexist Families is where our nation finds hope Where our wings take dream Put food on your family! Knock down the tollbooth! Vulcanise society! Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher! http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/piehigher.asp |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: GUEST,Mr Red Date: 21 Jan 09 - 08:20 AM Well - I watched the ceremony on CNN. One of those seminal moments you don't want to miss (IMNSOHO). Like the first man on the moon, Diana's funeral and Nelson Mandela leaving Robben Island. I still remember the rotating globe that replaced all TV programmes here in the UK the day Kennedy was asassinated. (ringing my first girlfriend - that's where I was - since you ask) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: GUEST,Susu's Hubby Date: 21 Jan 09 - 10:22 PM Sour grapes....nah. Am I saddened by the exit of W? Sure I am. But no sour grapes. It's more like relief to sit back and see what Obama can do with a congress with an 8% approval rating. So far it's just been a bunch of executive orders. Or in other words...circumventing the system. But we saw that during the campaign. So no surprise there. It seems that he's almost afraid to go up against Pelosi. He shouldn't be. She's just a short, shrill, little woman from California. So sour grapes? nope....none here. I'm grown up enough to say that Obama is my president,too, which is more than some of you guys were willing to say whenever W. was in office. I hope he does well and can bring the change that is needed in this country. But what I really want to know is this......When will he develop the cahonas needed to lead the country and not shrivel under the pressure that Pelosi assumes that she has? (Not much with an 8% approval rating. She's just the one that's holding the gavel in the bully pulpit at the moment.) That's what will be interesting and fun to watch. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Ebbie Date: 21 Jan 09 - 10:31 PM "She's just a short, shrill, little woman from California." Wow. Nice to know that you're not sexist. lol |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: pdq Date: 21 Jan 09 - 10:43 PM Please, Hubs...don't blame that creepy critter on that once nice western state of California. Nancy Pelosi is actually the daughter of "Big Tommy" D'Alesandro, the mayor of Baltimore and head of a crime family. Her brother was "Little Tommy" D'Alesandro who suceeded his daddy as Baltimore mayor. Nancy Pelosi has deep roots in real stinky stuff. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Ebbie Date: 21 Jan 09 - 11:15 PM Once before, pdq asserts the crime connections of "Big Tommy" D'Alesandro Jr. Just as before I have not found such an allegation nor has pdq given such links. I did find this - and let me say that if all the gender specific identifiers were changed to the male form my guess is that most of the men here would be admiring. "If there's one thing "Little Nancy" D'Alesandro learned early, it was the importance of math. Born March 26, 1940, she was the youngest child of Thomas "Big Tommy" D'Alesandro Jr., an insurance salesman turned politician who was teaching his tots how to count votes while their peers were still immersed in the exploits of Dick and Jane. A lifelong denizen of Baltimore's Little Italy, Big Tommy was elected to Maryland's House of Delegates at 21, followed by five terms in Congress and three as mayor of Baltimore. "During Nancy's youth, the D'Alesandro household revolved around her father's political life. "He set the tune, and we danced to it," says Thomas D'Alesandro III, Nancy's eldest brother, who also served as Baltimore's mayor. That tune was combative, pragmatic, and personal. The D'Alesandro home operated like a field office, with the children serving as auxiliary staff. Constituents streamed through the door starting at 10 a.m., and whoever was manning the front desk--a post at which every child served several hours a week starting at age 13--handled requests ranging from finding a family public housing to bailing someone's husband out of jail. It was quite the education, says D'Alesandro, Pelosi's brother. "We dealt with human nature in the raw." "A staunch Catholic and New Deal populist, Big Tommy conferred on his offspring a sense of society's obligation to the poor and powerless, enduring themes in his daughter's politics. But he also schooled them in the nuts and bolts, the transactional nature of the game. His career characterized by hard- fought races and endless vote-scrounging, Big Tommy was forever juggling the demands of the Poles, Germans, Irish, Czechs, Jews, and Italians in his district. Constituent service became his calling card, and Nancy and her brothers helped maintain a "favor file" on everyone for whom their father had ever found a job or served a hot meal. (Nancy's mom kept pots of stew and pasta sauce simmering at all hours to feed petitioners.) The operation also kept scrupulous count of how many votes it had-- and needed--from each precinct, block, ethnic group, union, to win an election. "Make sure you have the votes" was drilled into the D'Alesandro children's heads. "Nancy absorbed subtler lessons as well, including how a smart woman could amass power. At the core of Big Tommy's operation was Nancy's formidable mother, Anunciata, one of those women who, born to a different age, would have ruled outright. Smart and ambitious, Anunciata became Baltimore's first female auctioneer in the 1920s. But, when the company wanted to move her to New York, her parents refused. "She was from a very cloistered Italian family who thought working downtown was a sin," recalls D'Alesandro. "So, instead, the fetching Anunciata married a promising young go-getter from right across Albemarle Street, bore him six sons and one daughter, and threw herself into making her husband a success. She and her "moccasin network" of ladies knew everyone in town and what was happening on every block. She figured out the city's bureaucracies and whom to call to get a problem fixed. On Election Day, she patrolled the polling stations. Fiercely tribal, Anunciata served as her husband's chief enforcer and had a long memory for transgressions. "No one could say a word against him," says D'Alesandro. (Family legend holds that Anunciata once slugged a mouthy poll worker.) "With my mother," D'Alesandro told The Baltimore Sun in 2006, "there was no forgiving." More |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: GUEST,Susu's Hubby Date: 22 Jan 09 - 07:59 AM "On Election Day, she patrolled the polling stations. Fiercely tribal, Anunciata served as her husband's chief enforcer and had a long memory for transgressions. "No one could say a word against him," says D'Alesandro. (Family legend holds that Anunciata once slugged a mouthy poll worker.) "With my mother," D'Alesandro told The Baltimore Sun in 2006, "there was no forgiving." I guess that would have made her "The Godmother"? Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Bobert Date: 22 Jan 09 - 08:12 AM The grapes get sourer with every psoting, Hubster... You really don't have a clue just how much a partisan "true believer" you sound, do you??? You and folks like you what is wrong with America... Bitterness has consumed you... It must suck to be you, Hub... I truely feel pity for your miserable little soul... Really... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: kendall Date: 22 Jan 09 - 08:34 AM Guilt by association? Is a name that ends in a vowel an indication of bad blood? What about Rudolph Guliani? Mario Cuomo? Galileo? Rossini? and that scoundrel, Leonardo DaVinci? I came from a long line of drunks and no goodnicks; does that make me one? How anyone can miss the moron is beyond me. 911, Katrina, Iraq, spying on Americans and the collapse of the financial system. Everything he has ever touched has turned to shit! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: GUEST,goatfell Date: 22 Jan 09 - 01:53 PM I'm Glad but then another one has got in, but he'll be back |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: GUEST Date: 22 Jan 09 - 06:24 PM Bobert, Again...no sour grapes here but what I'd like to know that with all of the former Clinton appointees again running things in DC, what happens to your "progressive" movement? Obama's been anything but since the election. Just wondering. Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: GUEST,Susu's Hubby Date: 23 Jan 09 - 06:18 AM ....and what's this I hear about...... transparency? Sounds a lot like lip service to me Hubby |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: goatfell Date: 23 Jan 09 - 06:22 AM the words I really want read is BUsh has left the planet |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: kendall Date: 23 Jan 09 - 09:09 AM I'm taking bets on the political leanings of Politico. 2 to 1 says they are a right wing gang of idiologs who are not willing to cut Obama any slack. He has been president 3 days and already they are circling like vultures. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: goatfell Date: 23 Jan 09 - 10:44 AM aye they are called in America republicans |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Stephen L. Rich Date: 23 Jan 09 - 04:42 PM Bush has left the Whithouse! Did anyone think to count the silverware? Stephen Lee |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush Has Left the White House... From: Amos Date: 23 Jan 09 - 04:54 PM Jaysus, Hubster, don't get all stupid on us; the fact that he is willing to be transparent about things does not mean he will answer any question asked at any time. Just because Bush used evasion as a means of covering up a long chain of substantive falsehoods does not mean that Obama is doing so. By all means call him on it if you find some factual instance of his being deceitful. I am sure you will spot it if so, being an admirer of an expert. A |
