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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: kendall Date: 14 Sep 01 - 07:34 AM If we were hit just because we support Isreal, what about all those countries that support us? Are they next? |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: Dave (the ancient mariner) Date: 14 Sep 01 - 08:07 AM I am a Monarchist, and to all Americans know this. We are related by blood, and kindred spirit to America. We have close cultural and historical ties to most countries in the world. This attack on you, is an attack on humanity. The fact that America divorced us in 1776 doesnt mean we dont love you as a relative. After the lessons of two world wars we know who our allies are, and swore with the other members of NATO to support you. The terrible final option must once again be used in order to preserve freedom and democracy. Our people know the terrible consequences of war. To paraphrase Winston Churchill (whose mother was American) We are a hard people to anger, but once you have driven us to the hard school of war have proven to be attentive students. Now we have graduated with honours; and are skilled enough to teach you terrorists a badly needed lesson; and we shall! Yours, Aye. Dave |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: Dahlin Date: 14 Sep 01 - 08:14 AM I believe they marched in to Sousa's Stars and Stripes Forever and then played The Star Spangled Banner. In any case it was an emotional moment even watching it on television.
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 14 Sep 01 - 08:28 AM Her Royal Highness even interrupted her hols! (Not in time to be at Buck House for the Star Spangled Banner, of course, but she did send her second son along.) The last time she broke off her holidays early, and the last time she authorised a breach of Royal Protocol (to fly the flag at half mast) was after Princess Di's death. Both those gestures were made at gunpoint. (She was persuasively advised that if she didn't, she would be booed at the funeral.) Our gracious queen is learning fast, but I suspect too late, and we can surely now anticipate the death of this anachronistic institution. It is welcome news that the last night of the Proms, which for many years has shamed the finest music festival in the world, is to be denuded of its jingoistic absurdities. Sad only that it took such a catastrophe to get us out of that particular rut. Land of Hope and Glory is gone, hopefully for ever, as Elgar himself would surely have wished. In its place, the inspired last movement of Beethoven;s Ninth Symphony than which there is nothing in the world more appropriate for the momeht. It is surely time for all countries, not least America, to rethink some of their outdated nationalist symbolism and start recognising that we are all firstly citizens of the world. And don't forget that behind the title of this thread is a song/hymn that has absolutely no place in any pluralist multi-religious, multi-ethnic civilised society. |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: The Walrus at work Date: 14 Sep 01 - 08:56 AM No man is an Island entire of itself... Every man is a piece of the Continent, a part of the Main; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind; and, therefore, never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee" John Donne, 1624
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: The_one_and_only_Dai Date: 14 Sep 01 - 09:12 AM I caught some of the memorial from St. Paul's on the car radio - the last number was the 'Battle Hymn of the Republic'... |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: sian, west wales Date: 14 Sep 01 - 02:28 PM The St. Paul's service is apparently going to be broadcast (BBC2?) tonight at 8.00 (3.00 in New York, I guess). Don't know if it will be available on-line at all, but it sounded very moving. Opened with the USA anthem. Sian |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: Ferret Date: 14 Sep 01 - 02:34 PM The Memorial at St, Paul's started with the Star Spangled Banner and ended with God save the Queen. A very moving memorial. Here in Kent UK at 11.00 there was complete silence and all the flags here are at half mast. May the gods bless you all ferret |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: Willa Date: 14 Sep 01 - 04:28 PM John in Hull. no,we're not 'just a little fishing village'. Those pictures of the aftermath were all too horribly familiar to me. I was born in the City of Hull, a 'North East Coast Town' as it was described during the '39-'45 war. 90% of its buildings were damaged or destroyed during those years; yes 90%- and thousands of its people killed or injured. The people of Hull have particular cause to grieve with the people of America. My father was a firefighter during the war, and like many of his colleagues, died young of lung cancer - protective gear can be a hindrance when you're digging bare-handed. I gather 200 firefighters were lost in NY. As usual, the emergency services did, and are doing, a magnificent job. |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: Cobble Date: 14 Sep 01 - 06:41 PM Willa.... Well said. Hull took a beating in WW2. My Mother was an Ambulance driver in Hull during the war, she always found that time very difficult to talk about. It can't have been nice pulling kids out of bombed schools. Blessings to all the aid workers in NY and DC Mrs C. |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: DonMeixner Date: 14 Sep 01 - 06:56 PM Kendall, I was driving in the car and I heard the news report on NPR about changing of the guards at Buckingham Palace and her orders to the band to play The American National Anthem. I was choked from the first bar. The President of France called for the same. I am now less afraid than before and honored that we have such friends and loyal opponents around the world. God save the Queen, my eternal thanks to the people of Great Britain and France. Don Meixner |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: Paul from Hull Date: 14 Sep 01 - 06:58 PM Well said Willa....(hello, m'dear....*S*) I NEARLY posted something last night, when I saw Johns post, but it would, to me,have seemed trite, because I can't draw on the personal 'connections' that Willa can. Thus the 'comparison' cant REALLY be drawn with what Hull went through then, with what happened on Tuesday....Willa can however make that comparison with the Rescue Services. I wasnt yet born in the War, but the 'feeling' of what Hull went through still 'pervades' through the City...at a time like this, it can be felt even more... Paul |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: Paul from Hull Date: 14 Sep 01 - 07:03 PM Hmmm...thats not QUITE what I meant....Sorry |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: DougR Date: 14 Sep 01 - 07:05 PM Kendall, I agree with you. They didn't hit us just because we support Isrial. We are the big Satan to them. DougR |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: Gareth Date: 14 Sep 01 - 07:45 PM I beg to remind all catters that Her Majesty lost familly to freedom fighters - Lord Louis Mountbatten, and children who went sailing with him. Gareth |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 14 Sep 01 - 07:54 PM Willa,Cobble & Paul-Sorry, I should not have written what I did, I was just repeating what some people think of our city, this was wrong.Sorry.john |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: Paul from Hull Date: 14 Sep 01 - 08:06 PM I dont think we were saying you were wrong matey.... just 'expanding' on what you'd said. To just explain to our Cousins, Hull & its immediate environs, contains just over 300,000 people.... that maybe makes it pretty small in American terms, I dunno. But Hull, despite being referred to as 'a North-East Coast town' during WW11, as Willa said, was at that time (or just after then) the 10th biggest City in either England, or in the UK. Its now somewhere between the 12th, or the 15th...I cant quite remember. Its just that even in THIS country, nobody seems to know about it! I'm rambling...as I'm apt to do....sorry.....*G* |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: Ferret Date: 14 Sep 01 - 09:35 PM Paul if you need to rambl then rambl. and to all the of the USA, in the words of the song "you'll never walk alone" be strong ferret |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: CRANKY YANKEE Date: 14 Sep 01 - 11:02 PM Thank you Mother. (The Mother Country) When I was an Air Traffic Controller in the USAF between 1947 and 1963, my collegues sometimesw referred to me as "The un-flappable" because I never showed any emotion or change in my demeanor. This trait was cultivated over a period of two or three years. But, what they didn't know (until now) was that my eyes turn into water faucets at the movies, or watching television, or when the Coldstream Guards play The Star Spangled Banner. Love and Kisses. Jody Gibson |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: DonMeixner Date: 14 Sep 01 - 11:19 PM Now I see that all of Europe seemed to stop what it was doing for prayers for the United States, Fire fighters in Budapest, Guards in England, People on the streets everywhere, I am humbled. Don |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: Amos Date: 14 Sep 01 - 11:50 PM In addition tothe above heart-rending displays of solidarity, a Fench (I think) woman was quoted in todays running review of events and investigations and so on that "In the final analysis, we are ALL Americans." What a way to put it!! What an amazing line!! For some reason this opened a lock gate for me; the humanity and the alliance of feeling humans all over the world against insanity made me break down and weep for a short while. It restores a great deep faith in me that our species is sound, strong, and will come through adversity with honor and whatever grace it can find to bring to play. A |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: Paul from Hull Date: 15 Sep 01 - 09:14 PM I suppose it echoes Kennedy a little bit... "Ich bein ein Berliner" (apologies if I've spelt that inaccurately) |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 15 Sep 01 - 09:22 PM Of course that lost some of its impact in Germany since a Berliner is a sort of sausage - it was a bit as if he had said "I am a Hamburger". Which didn't mean the sentiment wasn't appreciated.
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: DougR Date: 15 Sep 01 - 09:36 PM I didn't know that, McGrath. That's funny! Wouldn't you think somebody on Kennedy's staff would have picked up on that? I'm still laughing! DougR |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: Ebbie Date: 15 Sep 01 - 09:56 PM Surely not a sausage, McGrath? I thought it was a pastry? (Not that it makes much difference.) I thought it was as if we went to Denmark and informed an audience that we were a Danish. One is jargon and the other is factual- both are correct. And again- I could be wrong. Ebbie
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: Paul from Hull Date: 15 Sep 01 - 10:07 PM *LOL* That I DIDN'T know.....(though if I had, I'd have still posted it...though perhaps in a different Thread.....*G*) |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: kendall Date: 15 Sep 01 - 10:41 PM How do you make "A hamburger" out of I am a Berliner? |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 16 Sep 01 - 07:49 AM You're right Ebbie - sausages come from a differnet city again. Frankfurt. |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: Ferret Date: 16 Sep 01 - 03:24 PM All this talk of foods makeing me hungry. ferret |
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Subject: RE: God save the Queen From: GUEST Date: 17 Sep 01 - 12:35 AM Is Kendall the Cloth-eared Twit related to Gladly the Cross-eyed Bear? Seamus |
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