People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley

Subject: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 12 Mar 02 - 10:28 AM

Sorry seem to keep getting an error message so I thought I'd start a new thread. If this title is the one we're going to use how about some really kitchy spoof CCCP/Soviet Union style posters showing the proletariat and flags except with guitars, melodians etc instead of hammer,sycles and guns ? How about it Les !!

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 12 Mar 02 - 11:08 AM

Sorry this new computer of mine seems to have the hic-cups and spewed out the message three times !! Just had a phone call from (Big) Paul Whitlock from Kent who usually comes most years. He wants to be kept informed and is keen to still come up !!

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: greg stephens
Date: 12 Mar 02 - 11:13 AM

I lost track of the old thread after after 40 entries when it got too long for people to read.Any general opinion arise ow? Are people going ahead with something?

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 12 Mar 02 - 11:33 AM

Yeah greg basically it looks as if Thurderbirds are nearly go...or certainly at the launchpad

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 12 Mar 02 - 12:06 PM

Damn, damn, damn, damn, DAMN!

....I cant be there after all.

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 12 Mar 02 - 02:44 PM

I think that we should commission a suitably left wing song from Leon Rosselson or Billy Bragg.

Mike at Hodgsons(formerly the Grounds) is the owner of and brewer at the Wawne Brewery(which is now located in Hodgsons) - perhaps he could brew us a festival bitter. any suggestions for names?

Roger

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: oombanjo
Date: 12 Mar 02 - 02:47 PM

neither can I, but I will do all I can to get the show on the road. If I had thought the responce would be like it has I would not have booked the bluegrass festival Petoborough same weekend. by the by I can not get by thread number 70 on the old thread,do you think that eyes are on us???????????????

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: oombanjo
Date: 12 Mar 02 - 02:49 PM

Hi Roger you got in front of me there. How about (the new fringe)

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: oombanjo
Date: 12 Mar 02 - 02:53 PM

12/03/02 Is it the tap tonight maybe we could talk a few things through.

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Les from Hull
Date: 12 Mar 02 - 03:01 PM

I'll see what I can do for some artwork. I really do think that someone ought to have a word with Chris at Adastra soon, though. If we leave it too long it'll look like we're against the regular festival, rather than keeping things going in the meantime. I don't mind doing writing and graphics, but I don't sit on committees any more. I've retired, you know, and that would be just like working again!

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 12 Mar 02 - 03:52 PM

I got to agree Les, someone needs to talk to Chris & let her know that what we are TRYING to do is 'hold it in trust' until the proper 'B.E.R.F.F.' can happen again next Year....NOT that its something we are trying to muscle in on....& that nor are we trying to 'capitalise' on its good name among Festival-goers.

I'm also a little but concerned about what we name it giving Chris the wrong impression in that regard.

Frankly, with all the grumbles we've had here, a slight 'guilty conscience' might make it seem like 'The People's Voice' Festival seems to imply that we are saying 'the people have spoken'....& spoken AGAINST how the B.E.R.F.F. has been run...

(Thats not 'pointing the finger' btw... as I've said before, I didnt go to the last 2 Festivals, largely because of her attitude towards me personally over the couple of Festivals before that. So I'm not someone who will defend Chris Wade, though I do, most definately, support having a Festival in Beverley.....& if thats the one she heads up, all well & good. (It would be interesting to find out though, whether it looks like there is the possibility, by talking to Publicans, etc, of a Fringe-y type thing on another w/end in the Year....))

Anyway, its neither here nore there for me, cos I CAN'T be there (or its 99% unlikely anyway) for the one we are currently trying to arrange. *sigh* .....& Brid Widder had just about persuaded me to get involved with organising the Camping across the w/end...

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 13 Mar 02 - 03:42 AM

Well Les

We are nice people and so do feel guilty about not telling Chris about our plans.

A much less nice person than me might point out though no-one told us(or anyone else) that it was being cancelled in the first place. Certainly the publicans found out about it in the local press.

Roger

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: nutty
Date: 13 Mar 02 - 03:51 AM

Just received my Beverley Festival flier in the post this morning for JUNE 2003

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 13 Mar 02 - 04:30 AM

Paul, I agree that we should let Adastra PLC know of what's going to happen, however I'm not really worried about whether we upset or offend. I for one, do not want to be involved in the the big picture (i.e. BERFF) and they can get on with their planning for next year, which I shall most probably attend. I think the fact that 'something' is going on should be viewed as a positive effect by the official people. That the People's Voice sounds an up yours is immaterial, it is the fact the backbone of previous years (i.e. the Fringe) still want to meet, enjoy each others company sing play get pissed. Just some info that may have got missed from the end of the last thread. I've spoken to Padget, he had only just found out. he said Johnny Booker wasn't planning to come this year (he wants to go to his caravan and save some pennies), Nigel never came to Beverley anyway. He is very interested and wants to be kept informed. I think reading between the lines when things are definite he wants to be officially 'invited'. I told him that Bev would not be the same without his presence. Again i'll be involved if you need my name for committees etc, but as I'm over here attendance may be a problem. I do have access to copiers etc so can do a bit of buckshee printing. Perhaps those who are going to Barnsley can meet and talk.

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: oombanjo
Date: 13 Mar 02 - 03:35 PM

rodger send me your Email add on [e-mail]

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 04:26 AM

Here is the text of email that I have sent to Chris Wade:

"Chris

I thought it only polite to write and let you know that, since the announcement of the cancellation of the 2002 festival, a co-operative of Beverley publicans and traders and local folk enthusiasts have been talking together with a view to running the fringe events anyway. Our motivations for this are:

· To lessen the economic impact on the businesses in the town · To reduce the disappointment and disillusion of regular attenders at the festival · To provide some continuity so that the official 2003 festival has the best chance of succeeding in attracting an audience.

What we have in mind is to run the usual singarounds and sessions in the Sun, Tiger etc and to co-ordinate the activities of those pubs that normally book acts into their premises at weekends by suggesting appropriate local acoustics acts that they could use on that particular weekend.

We certainly have no intention of usurping the official festival – all activities will be open pub events with no charge. Indeed we will not use the B&ERFF name in any shape or form in our publicity.

We hope that you will see this as a positive move and one that will be to the benefit of the next official festival in 2003. As folk enthusiasts we wish you every success in planning that next festival and it will have our full support as always.

It would be nice if you could help to publicise the fringe event by, perhaps, putting a ps on the festival website inviting people to visit Beverley anyway and join in with the sessions.

All the best

Roger Busby (for the folk co-operative)"

hope everyone is happy with that

Roger

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 04:30 AM

Roger, Les @ co my e-mail is [e-mail] I can be contacted by phone on 0114 283 5909 (work) or my mobile is 078877 01435. With regards to a beer name Two Rhetts Beer (slogan-f*ck me it's f*cking good beer) or Fathom the Bowl,Wild Mountain Ale (with added Thyme),Licolnshire Mountain Rescue Team Benefit Ale, the Manch, Fringe's Revenge, on the Best Session Ale !!!

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 04:52 AM

Sorry that e-mail should be [e-mail]. Rog the e-mail to Chris looks good it's succinct and to the point pointing out the positives of what is trying to be achieved.

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 05:00 AM

MC

The "session ale" has my vote - nice play on words there for those of us who are CAMRA members as well as folkies.

Rog

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: smallpiper
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 05:48 AM

I like the idea of session ale. I completely lost track of the last thread 'cos I've been away. So let me see if I've got this right.. we're going ahead with the unofficial official fringe events, landlords and local businesses are up for it, camping has been organised and Chris Wade has been kept in the picture oh and we're going to advertise it at clubs and sessions etc through out the world! cool.... count me in to help as I live fairly locally (Hessle) and work commitments allowing I'll do what I can.

John

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Les from Hull
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 11:06 AM

Roger - that's excellent, mate. Your email says everything perfectly.

I got Chris' flyer for the 2003 festival this morning, and it sounds very positive. She is asking for feedback from regular attendees (as I believe she has always done). I would just like to say to anybody interested in Beverley 2003 could contact Chris Wade on [e-mail]

Beverley has always been an excellent festival in a lovely, friendly, historic town, and I'm sure you'll have a great time at the 2002 fringe festival, and at the 2003 Beverley and East Riding Folk Festival (which will have its usual friendly fringe addition).

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 11:24 AM

I have had a very positive response from Chris who suggests that we can work together on this and 2003 and beyond. One of her concerns is that we don't raise peoples expectations of what our fringe will offer this year in case they are disappointed and this reflects on the festival proper. I agree with that and we must be careful about how we publicise this - we don't want people coming expecting Jon Wright or Vin Garbutt and getting Jim, Les and Maggie!

Chris has suggested a meeting with interested parties and I don't have any problem with that.

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Les from Hull
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 11:28 AM

At least it won't have cost 'em much! We could probably use the expression 'folk for nowt' to our advantage.

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 11:37 AM

I resemble that remark !!!! Can you sing 'On the Street Where you Live?'

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: GUEST,janey
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 12:15 PM

dave and i would certainly like to come to the weekend. we had breakfast in beverley a couple of weeks ago on our way home from Amsterdam and I thought it was a lovely town; plenty of pubs and charity shops (perfect for a folk weekend!) if there's anything we can do to support please let us know. although we are two hours away in Saddleworth we do go to a lot of festivals and could pass out a few fliers or something...

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: John Routledge
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 01:22 PM

Great stuff everyone.

I attend many clubs in South Manchester/Cheshire and like Janey would be happy to distribute fliers etc if appropriate.

Good luck to Fringe (with the Beverley on top)

Cheers John

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: oombanjo
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 03:52 PM

Have /are we going to set a date and venue for the meeting. If most of the locals,and of course any other interested parties are going to Magies birthday on Sat (the Kingstone)it can be sorted there

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 04:01 PM

I can try for Saturday - I'm in Leeds tomorrow and Sheffield Saturday and it will depend what time I get back.

roger

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Les from Hull
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 05:15 PM

Maggie and I are hoping for a good attendance at the Kingston on Saturday night - there should be quite a few non-catter folkies there as well who will no doubt offer help and advice. As long as we don't spend all night talking about it. It's Maggie's birthday and it's a big one (of course, I can't say how big in a public forum!), so we've got a lot of singing and playing and eating and drinking to do. But of course, you're all welcome!

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: smallpiper
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 06:09 PM

Can't make saturday but keep me informed John

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Les from Hull
Date: 14 Mar 02 - 07:33 PM

Mags says that any lengthy discussion on Saturday can take place in the other room! I concur, and as I will be with the Fragrant One my views are: I will sing and play as required, she will run a singaround if needed, and I will help produce flyers, posters and other graphics. Following Jim's suggestion I have produced a 'socialist art-type' graphic that looks like a red flag with a picture of someone not too unLeninlike with finger in ear, which may be of some use.

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 15 Mar 02 - 04:16 AM

Happy Birfday Mags many happy returns for Saturday. Keep us informed about discussions. Roger if your in Sheffield on Saturday a couple of us (namely me and Bamf) are playing at Fagans on Saturday afternoon (for a lovely old lady called Eadies 80th)popin if you can.

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: GUEST,Carole Dalton
Date: 17 Mar 02 - 09:35 AM

Hi Roger. It's been ages (possibly over a year) since we last saw each other at Nellies sessions. I've been reading this thread and the Beverley folk festival thread (which for some reason I can't find now!)with interest. If you are still looking for venues to host sessions etc you could try The Easy Yorkshire. We have performed there on a number of occasions. I know it's an eating house and has draylon seats and carpet and possibly a bit out of the way but Harry the Manager is very pro live music. He mentioned to me a couple of weeks ago about the BFF and that if anyone was interested he would be more than happy to host sessions etc. You might like to think about it at least. Also if you are producing any leaflets I'll happily take some and distribute them at our gigs. If you need any further info Roger you can contact me at [e-mail]. Good luck.

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: oombanjo
Date: 17 Mar 02 - 01:40 PM

Well! Maggie's Birthday at the Kingstone went down a treat, it was a full house and we played until 1.30am. no attempt was made to usurp the party by (the peoples revelution) as most of the interested parties were three parts to the wind ,and anyway had more respect for Maggie. Ray was there and has requested to be kept informed,Les has prodused some preliminary artwork. Now we require a date & time to set up a meeting. So lets get ready to rumble.

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 18 Mar 02 - 04:50 AM

Glad to hear you all had a good partying time at the Kngston. Les if you can e-mail me as an attachment the provisional posters on [e-mail]. I would like to see them.

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 18 Mar 02 - 10:34 AM

We have quite a bit of the programme in outline now but we really do need to get together everyone who is interested in progressing things.

I suggest Thursday of next week(28th) in Hodgson's (the grounds) at 8.30 pm.

I'll post an outline of what's agreed so far in the next message.

Roger

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 18 Mar 02 - 10:39 AM

OK Folks

In the absence of any get together yet I have been pushing ahead with talking to landlords etc. about the format of what we can do. Here is the outline of what I think is possible together with notes of what is agreed and what yet needs doing :

· The big singaround to take place as usual except for the first Friday evening to be in the front bar of Hodgson's ( a better room than the snug at the Sun). Otherwise in the Sun Saturday and Sunday hosted by Ray Padgett (if he agrees). · The main musicians session in The Tiger as usual Saturday and Sunday. Does it normally run on Friday evening? Who usually runs the session or does it run itself? · Informal sessions in other pubs around town – Nellies, Oddfellows, Westwood Club, Dog and Duck have agreed so far but I haven't spoken to anyone else yet. · Folk club upstairs at Hodgson's on Saturday afternoon – possibly hosted by Cottingham FC · Open Mic upstairs at Hodgson's Sunday afternoon. I've not approached them yet but I hope to persuade Driffield FC to host that. · Booked acts in the following pubs – Mariners Arms Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights– Hodgson's Saturday night – The Sun on Sunday night. Possibility of others such as Queens Head and Forresters Arms and Nellies but I haven't spoken to them. · Camping on the Leisure Centre field – pretty much agreed with the Council - John Yeaman will prepare the field as usual. · Hodgson's to open for food at 8am and stay open with an extension until 1am. The upstairs bar to be used as a communal room with the extension and then remaining open serving non-alcoholic stuff until people want to go to bed – playing/singing allowed in there no problem. · Hodgson's and The Sun to put on beer festivals to attract the CAMRA crowd · Hodgson's to brew a festival ale called "session bitter"

That's about it so far.

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: brid widder
Date: 18 Mar 02 - 01:05 PM

This sound excellent ...I'll be OK for next Thursday but might need a lift back to Hull.

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: janey
Date: 18 Mar 02 - 01:22 PM

sounds wonderful; please remind us of the dates; is it June?

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: John Routledge
Date: 18 Mar 02 - 01:33 PM

June 21 22 23 Janey

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Willa
Date: 18 Mar 02 - 02:27 PM

Well done, Roger; that looks great.

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: nutty
Date: 18 Mar 02 - 03:53 PM

I would like to come and camp ........ can someone, please , tell me if dogs are allowed on the site at Beverley ( the four-legged type, I mean )???

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Willa
Date: 18 Mar 02 - 05:27 PM

Yes, Nutty, dogs are allowed on the camp-site.

Subject: Tiger Session
From: SarahC
Date: 19 Mar 02 - 02:28 AM

I don't know if the session runs Friday night.

It has run itself on Saturday and Sunday lunchtimes (and then most of the afternoon. I'll start letting the regular West Yorkshire sessioners know it is happening - can do this word of mouth over the next couple of months.

Cheers and well done Roger and co. You've done a grand job.

Sarah

Kinin

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: smallpiper
Date: 19 Mar 02 - 05:32 AM

Fantastic!!!!! I'll try and make the meeting on the 28th and you can certainly count on me in terms of starting up unofficial sessions in and around the place (as usual) john

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 19 Mar 02 - 06:10 AM

Out of small acorns.....and all that. You've done a great job there Rog. I wish I could make the meeting but it's my very regular Thursday sesh over here in the People's Republic but as I've said put me down as a committed member of the co-operative. Even although we've said we're not out to usurp the official BERFF we may need to address that some of us may have to be more equal than others (if you pardon the expression) we will have to have a direct role in making sure people get to events that musicians etc are directed and that the pubs are happy with our efforts but I'm sure you'll discuss that on Thursday but that in mind and the 'peoples' bit being in operation we could all have red arm bands with hammers and sickles on them. Jim (Lenin) for the Politbureau

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 19 Mar 02 - 09:48 AM

I've only just opened this thread - took me some time to find "the other Thread" people are referring to. It's a bit late in this thread but, to save anyone else the trouble, the other thread is here.

Good luck with the festival,

Jon

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 19 Mar 02 - 03:59 PM

Should be ok for next Thursday Rog.

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 20 Mar 02 - 04:21 AM

Can we start a list of possible attendees that are singers and/or musicians and where there normal preference of attendance would be. I think it's safe to say that the Sun/Hodgsons (front bar) is to be more aimed for the singaround type sesh but that the more formal type of Folk Club can be at Hodgsons. the main musicians session pub can be the Tiger but do we want to a. to feature artists at the other supporting pubs b. designate certain pubs as Singer/Songwriter + Acoustic, Shanty, Mudcat etc.

Subject: RE: BS: People's Voice Folk Festival-Beverley
From: mandomad
Date: 20 Mar 02 - 10:07 AM

MCfat; you've put me off already by talking about organising sessions into "Formal", "singer/songwriter" etc Music is music is music as far as I'm concerned and will surely organise itself...sessions good or bad just develope...without lists. Can't we just flit about looking for whatever suits, or, start our own if nothing appeals?

mandomad