BS: Name the Author

Subject: RE: BS: Name the Author
From: Cluin
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 05:32 AM

Oh yeah, I did. Brain fart, I guess. Mind in the commode. Any chance of recirculation?

How many Finnegans at that Wake anyway?

Subject: RE: BS: Name the Author
From: Captain Ginger
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 05:50 AM

You're not alone - most newspaper sub-editors instinctively bung an apostrophe in there.
Full marks then, with the commode to boot.

Subject: RE: BS: Name the Author
From: autolycus
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 01:41 PM

An Buachaill - very interesting. Won't give the answer yet 'cos I looked it up - not on the net but in a book, where the two phrases are the other way round. But 19th century yes?






      Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: Name the Author
From: autolycus
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 01:43 PM

Who did not say,

"I may not agree with what you say but I will dwefend to thwe death your right to say it"?






       Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: Name the Author
From: Slag
Date: 06 Jan 07 - 01:56 PM

Elmer Fudd???

Subject: RE: BS: Name the Author
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 05:58 AM

Bugs Bunny...?

Subject: RE: BS: Name the Author
From: autolycus
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 12:00 PM

That's amazing.


   Nope.






      Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: Name the Author
From: polaitaly
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 07:34 AM

Voltaire
paola

Subject: RE: BS: Name the Author
From: Flash Company
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 10:52 AM

I think the Churchill 'modest little man' quote linked in with another one, 'He likes to be called Clem. I don't think I have to tell the constituents of Oldham what clem means!'

FC

Subject: RE: BS: Name the Author
From: autolycus
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 03:31 PM

Correct,polaitaly.





       Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: Name the Author
From: autolycus
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 03:33 PM

I mean, correct,polaitaly

    He didn't.






       Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: Name the Author
From: Cluin
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 03:34 PM

Actually, just about everybody since Voltaire.

Subject: RE: BS: Name the Author
From: Captain Ginger
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 04:35 PM

The phrase is widely attributed to Voltaire, but was in fact coined by a biographer as a representing a distillation of Voltaire's views.
It was first used in The Friends of Voltaire, written in 1906 by Evelyn Beatrice Hall.

Hall said that she had been trying to paraphrase Voltaire's words in his Essay on Tolerance: "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too."

Subject: RE: BS: Name the Author
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 08:11 PM

Good old Evelyn, nice girl... terrific bum on her, always made me laugh...

Subject: RE: BS: Name the Author
From: Fergie
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 09:59 PM

Eh! would that be commodious vicous Captain Ginger? Or some Anna Livia aswimming in the snot green sea?

Subject: RE: BS: Name the Author
From: Captain Ginger
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 02:59 AM

It would indeed be commodious, as hinted at by Cluin above. And the circularity is apparent in that the last line of the Wake runs seemlessly into the first, as Anna Livia dies and is carried out to sea to become, again, her source in an endless cycle of birth and death: ...A way a lone a last a loved a long the riverrun, past Eve and Adam...
Interestingly Joyce was a fine singer with a much-admired tenor voice, and much of his work sits easier on the ear than on the eye; for me the Wake is a book that is best read aloud to appreciate its rollicking musicality, with the abstruse literary puns and allusions left to be picked over after the meal, as it were.
The same applies to many passages in Ulysses, and to some in Dubliners and Portrait - he was clearly a man with a marvellous ear for words. Populists claim that Shakespeare, were he living today, would be writing scripts for soap operas (which, incidentally, is arrant nonsense), but I like to think JJ would make a darned sight finer lyricist than many contemporary snigger snogwriters.
But enough - it's time for breakfast.