Lakeman and Harding

Subject: RE: Lakeman and Harding
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 28 Jan 07 - 01:11 PM

Quite right Scrump...Roots needs it's own thread...Great Idea! :0)

Subject: RE: Lakeman and Harding
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 28 Jan 07 - 01:19 PM

No.

Nor is the fact that lizziecornish happened to see SoH one day in Sidmouth the sole ROUTE to discovering other artists. LC (like Mr Route) lives in Sidmouth and could therefore have found them at any time, whether during the first week in August or at any other nearby venue, of which there are many. It is my understanding that before moving to Sidmouth she lived on Dartmoor yet was entire unaware of the wealth of trad music in the surrounding villages. Nor does she appear to know anything about the long history of Herga in Harrow from whence she came. Perhaps she should have called the Beer/Knightley helpline earlier. Much earlier.

Subject: RE: Lakeman and Harding
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 28 Jan 07 - 01:21 PM

. . . or even the Albion Chronicles and asked Sam.

Subject: RE: Lakeman and Harding
From: Folkiedave
Date: 28 Jan 07 - 01:37 PM

Fiona, I wrote to both Mike Harding and SO.

MH replies if and when he feels like it.

SO responded with two fingers on its web page first of all and an email from John Leonard drawing attention to his reply on the BBC Message Board.

We know JL will not give in - he has decided that the Albino Bunny meets the criteria for a traditional track with reference to the BBC Folk Awards, when it clearly doesn't.

I don't think a letter from me will make his change his mind. Ill maybe catch up with him at a festival or somewhere.

You may have better luck of course.

And I agree, SOH should have its own thread and I am pleased to see it looks as if it now has two!

Subject: RE: Lakeman and Harding
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 28 Jan 07 - 01:42 PM

>>>And I agree, SOH should have its own thread and I am pleased to see it looks as if it now has two! <<<

:0) :0) :0)

Subject: RE: Lakeman and Harding
From: Fiona
Date: 28 Jan 07 - 01:43 PM

I'll have a go too Dave, I'll let you know if they reply.

fx

Subject: RE: Lakeman and Harding
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 28 Jan 07 - 02:02 PM

Forfuckssake who cares how many times MH plays the albinobunny track (always from the original FF CD which is the least awful)? If he isn't playing that he'd only be playing krusby or some Americana.

What matters is that the Smoothies have dug their heels in and decided to try and brazen out their monumental cock-up in allowing such a ridiculous nomination to stand. Everybody in the entire world (except the FA's executive producer) knows without a shadow of doubt that TWHINATT and fails to qualify for Best Trad Track under their own published criteria.

Subject: RE: Lakeman and Harding
From: GUEST,staceymcmullen
Date: 28 Jan 07 - 02:03 PM

lakemen is cack from another young folk musician

Subject: RE: Lakeman and Harding
From: Folkiedave
Date: 28 Jan 07 - 03:32 PM

Seth Lakeman is not a young musician.

He was a young musician ten years ago.

Subject: RE: Lakeman and Harding
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 28 Jan 07 - 03:36 PM

Yes, indeed. The Lakepersons Boy Band was dead good. Equation was definitely not so good and the Seth wannabe popstar is not an improvement. Nice bloke though.

Subject: RE: Lakeman and Harding
From: GUEST,Keith
Date: 29 Jan 07 - 04:26 AM

"...he doesn't seem to favour Seth Lakeman especially and I don't go for the conspiracy theory either, but I do understand that some folk are upset by it.

We have a running joke about his Kate Rusby bias on the beeb messageboard but I don't think she's up for any awards at all this year".

Mrs McCusker may not be nominated for any awards this year but Mr Rusby is (Best Musician)!

Subject: RE: Lakeman and Harding
From: melodeonboy
Date: 29 Jan 07 - 05:52 PM

I wish certain people (HH Lady Cornish, Bruce Michael Baillie et al) would take my comments at face value rather than putting words in my mouth or making false assumptions.

For the record, I have never said, or even intimated, that I don't like Seth Lakeman as a person or that I begrudge him his success or that I dislike his singing voice because it's unusual; and I did point out in my previous posting that I consider him to be talented. I merely said that his singing voice irritates me; I therefore don't particularly enjoy listening to him.

What's wrong with saying that, for Christ's sake? Does everybody have to sing from the same hymn sheet on this one? Or have we got to the stage where we're no longer allowed to make any criticism of ceratin folk "gods"?

Subject: RE: Lakeman and Harding
From: Scrump
Date: 30 Jan 07 - 06:43 AM

We keep having to bring this thread back to the key issue: whether any of us individually likes or dislikes Seth Lakeman as a performer, musician, singer, or person, is 100%, totally, completely, and absolutely irrelevant.

The only point is that one of his songs has been nominated as Best Traditional Track, and this is patently wrong. It doesn't matter that it's Seth Lakeman whose song has been nominated. It wouldn't matter if the song was written by Martin Carthy, Ewan MacColl or Paul McCartney. It could be anybody's song, but it would still be wrong for that song to be nominated in this particular category.

Subject: RE: Lakeman and Harding
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 03:32 AM

I would have thought it was good that folk music is getting into the mainstream with the likes of Seth Lakeman & Kate Rusby. Why do people always need to bring people down for doing so well?

I take my hat off to them.

Subject: RE: Lakeman and Harding
From: Folkiedave
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 03:58 AM

Go read the thread. I am one of the biggest critics and I take my hat off too - or would if I had one.

No-one is putting Seth Lakeman down. Kate Rusby does not come into it.

A bit of history. Every so many years "folk" becomes trendy and the mainstream music takes an interest. Then it goes away. To return again some years later. We are at that point.

CFPTRTBW

(Campaign For People To Read Threads Before Writing)

Subject: RE: Lakeman and Harding
From: Scrump
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 04:06 AM

Agreed, Dave, but it would help if people would stick to the thread instead of going off into anti-Lakeman, anti-SOH, anti-Rusby or anti-anyone-"successful" tirades :-)