BS: Middle East Unrest

Subject: RE: BS: Middle East Unrest
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 19 Mar 11 - 06:55 PM

Exactly L.H.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Middle East Unrest
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Mar 11 - 07:09 PM

I would not want the job of sorting it out, that's for sure. What a mess.

Subject: RE: BS: Middle East Unrest
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Mar 11 - 08:55 PM

"Fifty mortars and rockets were fired into Israel from Gaza yesterday."

Well Christ, they don't half have a lot of catching up to do, don't they?
Did you also give us daily reports about deliberate targeting of Israeli children by Israel, twenty innocent kids murdered by snipers on the border in a year, about the use of white phosphorus, about the bulldozing of Gaza villages, about the besieging of Gaza leading to widespread privation, starvation, lack of building and medical supplies for one and a half million people, about the bombing of hospitals, power stations and water works, about the deliberate targeting of UN buildings, about the hundreds of thousands of cluster bomblets still lying around in southern Lebanon able and ready to blow kids' legs off, and would you like me to go on?

Subject: RE: BS: Middle East Unrest
From: bobad
Date: 19 Mar 11 - 09:02 PM

Pavlov's finding is confirmed once again.

Subject: RE: BS: Middle East Unrest
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 19 Mar 11 - 09:17 PM

Sure. I note the fundamental depth of your shallowness.

Subject: RE: BS: Middle East Unrest
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Mar 11 - 10:01 AM

It's the old "we are the real victims here" story again... ;-) Hitler used that kind of bitter story (with some, but not nearly enough, justification) to rouse millions of angry Germans to go out in the late 30's/early 40's and conquer Europe. The old "victims" become the new oppressors, given half a chance, and they do it by deadly and effective military action. That has happened again and again throughout history, the old dog that was kicked by someone has turned into the new conqueror of some other poor dog that gets kicked in its turn, and it's been happening since 1948 in the Middle East.

The real victims are always those who are presently under the boot of a dominating foreign military power and are virtually helpless to do anything about it. That was the Jews in 1936 (approx) to 1945.

But who would it be now? Israelis or Palestinians? Who is virtually helpless and who is being dominated now?

You don't remain the world's number one victims forever. ;-) It can change easily, just like wearing a different hat. And it does change, usually in the wake of some war. But people get in the habit of yelling, "We're the real victims here!" to justify beating up on someone else and stealing their land, and they don't give up such convenient habits easily when those habits have propelled them to a place of wealth and worldly power and great political influence over the affairs of great nations.

Subject: RE: BS: Middle East Unrest
From: robomatic
Date: 20 Mar 11 - 04:24 PM

The problem with that attitude is it's utter instability. The tendency to side with whoever happens to be getting the boot assures a constant seesaw of attention and an urge to help whichever side is afflicted currently. This is the dark side of sympathy for the underdog and tends to create a longer lasting situation which might be good for the grandstanders and some news outlets but is not very good for the people involved.

Subject: RE: BS: Middle East Unrest
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 21 Mar 11 - 10:26 AM

I see Gadaffi is using the term 'Crusades' to win support from the Arab states and his own. He must be desperate if he is using that tactic.