BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Musket
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 06:07 AM

Funnily enough worm, I quoted you to the word in each example. If people have the stomach to read your mealy mouthed hatred, all they have to do is click on your name and read your posts. Plenty to go at, especially any thread with gay, HIV or similar in the title.

Bridge says you have been outed. You outed yourself, because you just can't help it. You come out with outrageous lies aimed at a section of society and think everybody here is stupid enough to wonder if you might have a point. You keep repeating your desire to stigmatise people in the name of healthcare, which is about as unforgivable as it gets.

Society moved on if you didn't notice. Governments run countries, not head superstition merchants. The only political party with a few bigots lurking happens to be the one that has delivered gay marriage, The Equalities Act and has more openly gay MPs on its benches than all the other parties put together.

Now... What was that nonsense about a liberal plot?

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: GUEST,Troubadour
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 06:40 AM

"They hate religion and they hate free speech."

Wrong on both counts Ake.

You can't hate something which simply has no relevance to you.

But you can object to children being brainwashed with irrational myth and fairy tale presented as truth.

As to free speech, go for it, but be aware that shouting fire in a crowded theatre is NOT free speech, and neither is vilifying people for their ethnic origins or sexual orientation.

The former is dangerous stupidity and the latter bigotry.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 09:59 AM

I suspect there may be a higher proportion of bigots in certain non-UK political parties, and indeed some UK political parties with no Commons seats. Try to keep up, Mither.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 10:00 AM

Closed systems? What more closed system can there be than the dedicated Catholic who proudly ditches rationality in favour of mysterious "greater truth", the dyed-in-the-wool homophobe who can't even type "gay wedding" without quotes around "wedding", or the rabid, science-denying creationist, all of whom dwell here? Are you sure you're not confusing "closed system" with "someone who don't talk nice, in my opinion?" As Musket says, we don't start this stuff, you know. If you think that attacking proud irrationality or proud prejudice is the work of closed minds, well I think you've got something slightly arse about face there!

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Musket
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 10:47 AM

Keep up yourself Bridge. I don't give credence to UKIP myself. Nor any other right wing fringe concern. You will notice I inferred the Tories rather than a coalition are in government too.

I thought you would like that, coming from a dirty rotten stinking capitalist such as yours truly?

By the way, me old fruit. Don't dream of me struggling when you come to power and put me up against the wall, I'll stand there and help them get their aim right...    A wold run by a solicitor in an armchair. I need a drink......

If I end up a member of Mick's prick club, any attempt by you to join will result in my casting a black ball. So don't fret eh?




Ah.. That's better. Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right....

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: akenaton
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 12:22 PM

I suppose I will have to refute the lies told in the 12:28pm post.

The poster has been caught and proved to be a liar on several occasions in this forum. I make a point of NEVER knowingly lying on this forum, all statistics come from HPE (HPA), or CDC.


"You tell us that in your opinion, gay people get together for sex not love. That all gay relationships are "open" ones with multiple partners."
Blatant lie! What I actually said is that "homosexuals are defined by who they have sex with, not who they love" that is a indisputable fact
"all gay relationships are open ones with multiple partners"
Blatant lie! I quoted a study done in the US which found that "around 50% of male homosexual "marriages", unions, are open relationships containing multiple sexual partners" this study was for a major American city, San Francisco.

"
You wish to force gay people to invasive clinical testing against their will, even when there is no purpose nor reason. You can't accept that gay people can be monogamous or not engage in sex. Or that clinical data shows that a higher proportion of gay people practice safe sex than heterosexual people. You quote data from a foreign country, wrongly I might add, in order to push your odious agenda here. You see the high take up of voluntary testing by gay people as a reason to force testing on the demographic that accesses it most anyway. There are more heterosexual people living with HIV than gay people yet all you wish to do is round up gay people as the only way to stop AIDS."

The above is a load of desperate nonsense, bearing no relation to my views....Of course homosexuals CAN be monogamous, what an idiotic allegation, which of course I never said.

The data from the US is perfectly relevant on this forum, and when I use CDC data I try to say so in my post.

I use quotation marks in homosexual "marriage", as I do not agree that marriage can be between any one but a man and a woman.

Most people in this area of Scotland hold the same view.
The churches hold the same view.
The vast majority of people worldwide hold the same view.

I did say that if male homosexual HIV new infections continue to rise at the present horrific rates, then testing and contact tracing may have to be made compulsory. That was several months ago and I now think compulsion would indeed be unworkable.....but increased testing and contact tracing is imperative if the epidemic is to be halted.


"Free speech?

That isn't free speech. That's abusing free speech to propagate a disgraceful criminal agenda."

Another blatant lie! There is nothing "criminal" in what I write here Most of it comes directly from the health agencies it is NOT a crime to hold alternative views, or express opinions based on published facts.

UNLIKE STALKING and LIBEL, which are crimes under UK and US law.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 12:26 PM

Mither - check grammar. Akenhateon, check law.   And also realise that the IMPLICATIONS of what you say are part of your public persona. Even if you have your words right, you don't have the melody.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 12:31 PM

those who you feel free to dehumanize because of their closed belief systems.

Sorry Janie- just more new-age pop psychology, I'm OK You're OK, everything is beautiful in its own way, pity the poor bigot & etc nonsense.

1. I don't "dehumanize" anyone- these clowns are all TOO "human"

2. Ignorance, bigotry, stupidity and willful idiocy should be called out for what they are.

And your right- that last sentance is absolute gibberish.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 12:37 PM

I really hope ake is nominated for this classic -

"homosexuals are defined by who they have sex with, not who they love" that is a indisputable fact

How much of an Obstreperous Prick do you need to be to think that it is an indisputable fact that if you don't have sex, you cannot be homosexual. Wrong thread to post it on, I know, but it needed saying.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 12:42 PM

too weird Ake.

if no one lives round where you live is gay. you will not catch the lurgy by your calculation - so why worry.

however if everyone where you live thinks that being gay is mucky stuff. its a view that implies either purblindness, or great hypocrisy.

lotta people in the closet wearing kilts.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 12:58 PM

I use quotation marks in homosexual "marriage", as I do not agree that marriage can be between any one but a man and a woman.

Most people in this area of Scotland hold the same view.
The churches hold the same view.
The vast majority of people worldwide hold the same view.

I don't give a stuff how many people round your way hold your view. Billions of people hold the view that there is a God and they're all almost certainly wrong (nothing is certain, of course, except that evolution is true). Gay marriage is the law. It doesn't matter what you think any more. It's gay marriage, not gay "marriage" or homosexual "marriage". We don't say Conservative "Party" or the Liberal "Democrats" or the "Catholic" Church, no matter how much we dislike those institutions. Grow up. It's gay marriage now and always will be. Just think what an even bigger fool you're going to look if you're still typing gay "marriage" in ten or twenty years' time.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Ed T
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 01:10 PM

"Most people in this area of Scotland hold the same view.
The churches hold the same view.
The vast majority of people worldwide hold the same view."

True or not (seems suspect to me), that does not make it any more right, logical nor compassionate

There was a time that slavery was conded by many, likely even a majority. But, most of us "got better" through time with superior reasoning and compassion. And, some of us can extend this compassion to fellow loving humans, though unfortunately not all (church going, claiming to be christian, or not).

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: akenaton
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 01:24 PM

FROM ONE OF THE INMATES OF ROOM 101.
"How much of an Obstreperous Prick do you need to be to think that it is an indisputable fact that if you don't have sex, you cannot be homosexual. Wrong thread to post it on, I know, but it needed saying"


WTF???

Big Al.....how's it goin' bud?

No Al there are three homosexual couple who live in our scattered area, we get on alright everyone is civil, kind, "tolerant", but most of the folks, and I meet hundreds in my working life, are against the redefinition of traditional marriage of accommodate what they see as a sexual minority.
I have never met anyone locally who "hates" homosexuals.
The English? yes, homosexuals? no   :0)

Most of them see marriage as much more than "sex" or "love"
Many people here live together for a few years, then when they feel ready to have their children, they marry.
They see traditional marriage as an institution to provide security and guidance in bringing up a family

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 01:24 PM

This thread has gone way off course, actually in several directions.

Attacks upon viewpoints that are held by large percentages of the population, religious, sexual, whatever, do nothing but expose the poster's intolerance- a reverse bigotry, as it were.

Attacks on Akenaton, with whom I often disagree, but is honest in his posts, is a case in point.


HIV testing should be required prior to all marriage contracts, traditional as well as MSM. The latter group has by far the highest percentages of HIV.

U. S. Center for Disease Control (CDC) Data (2010).
MSM accounted for 63% of estimated new infections (2010 data) and 78% of infections among newly infected men.
New HIV Infections
White MSM   11,200
Black MSM   10,600 (36%)
Hispanic-Latino MSM   6,700 (22%)
Black heterosexual women   5,300
Black heterosexual men   2,700
White heterosexual women 1,300
and lesser % ---

I would expect similar results for UK

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 01:34 PM

Here ya go, Q:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1470585/

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Musket
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 01:50 PM

You can expect Q but there are a few differences. One being take up and availability of screening. More to do with geography and nationally funded service than cultural differences I suppose. MSM is the highest new figure each year, as more feel they could be at risk, although there are more non gay people living with HIV in The UK than gay people. Where's in a much larger area such as The USA, a national figure is less meaningful. After all, you would have to rope in much of North Africa and Scandinavia to get a group listing here as large. I expect different figures in San Francisco to Dumbfuck Alabama

Isn't it wonderful how the worm types a post to show he isn't homophobic and comes out with the most outrageous disgraceful bigoted shite?

I know his area of Scotland well. No different to anywhere else. When people are stigmatised by merely existing, they cluster. More gay people in cities. More black people in cities. More people with mental health issues in cities. The more rural you get, the less you see.

If the attitudes of scum such as Akenaton had died out years ago, the roses would smell that bit nicer.

And yet he is allowed to post these lies and targeted hate. Question him and you get an email from Joe. I am still awaiting my apology by the way from Max for allowing members with access to accounts to send emails to members telling them how nasty they are to poor little Akenaton. I might just post the bugger. I am getting fed up of the hypocrisy and lack of moderation. We have gay members. How depressing to innocently open a post and seeing someone make sweeping untrue lies about you without even knowing you?



Bridge. For someone who went to uni' in Nottingham, I expect you to realise that when correcting grammar, don't forget that you don't talk rate like what we do me duck.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Ed T
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 01:54 PM

People are free to hold their views. However, it is a different matter when one is promoting something openly, especially topics which are clearly known to stir up heated discourse. With that in mind, it may be of interest to see who brought up a discussion that led to the "forks in the road" (note that mods are also not immune to stirring up the fire pot).

Disagreeing with someone and stating a case to support it, is hardly an attack. Nor is telling them what you feel about what they are promoting.

It is puzzling to state that a thread with such an odd topic could "go off course".

I am puzzled by what course was intended?

I suspect that with such an op, the discussion would be bound to go in a variety of directions, which it has done.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 02:13 PM

Do not contradict the almighty Q !

Q is a character who appears in the television series Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and Star Trek: Voyager, as well as in related products. The name "Q" also applies to all other individuals of the Q Continuum.

Q is said to be omnipotent, and is continually evasive regarding his motivations. His home, the Q Continuum, is accessible to the Q and their guests, and the true nature of it is said to be beyond the comprehension of "lesser beings" such as humans so it is shown to humans only in ways they can understand.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Big Mick
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 03:03 PM

Hijacking threads ..... Hhhmmmmm ...... Certainly will have to be added to the criteria for BBOPC designation. Piling on with personal invective instead of just attacking the ideas advanced ... Another.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Ed T
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 03:10 PM

BBOPC designation big prick club motto:

"Size matters- My (cherry-picked) statistic has more length, girth and holds longer than yours does"

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 03:58 PM

Mick, obviously this is the Illustrated Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club thread.

Are you reading all of this?

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Ed T
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 04:06 PM

"Are you reading all of this?"

Read it, he ( moderately) inspired-planned much of it, with Joe O!

:), of course;)

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: GUEST,Troubadour
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 04:13 PM

".Of course homosexuals CAN be monogamous, what an idiotic allegation, which of course I never said.

So you use data from a single US city which has a quite anomalous skewing of demographics, and try to claim it is relevant to the whole of the UK. If that isn't a deliberate lie, then it must be wilful stupidity. Take your choice!

"Of course homosexuals CAN be monogamous, what an idiotic allegation, which of course I never said."

How does that gel with your rubbishing of any suggestion that homosexual marriages would tend toward monogamy and reduce infection.

"I use quotation marks in homosexual "marriage", as I do not agree that marriage can be between any one but a man and a woman."

Nobody really gives a tuppenny damn what a narrow minded homophobe thinks. Same sex marriage (without quote marks) is a FACT, like it or lump it. You can deny it till you are blue in the face and it won't change a thing.

I guess you aren't anything like as important as you thought Pharaoh.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 04:25 PM

I guess you aren't anything like as important as you thought, Pharaoh.

Don't matter what Pharoah thinks, but what Q, his defender, thinks. Possibly Janie, as well.

Try to keep u, will ya?

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: GUEST,Troubadour
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 04:26 PM

"are against the redefinition of traditional marriage of accommodate what they see as a sexual minority."

So you and those "hundreds" (largely fantasy, I feel) of like minded people don't believe that minorities have any right to share the privileges which you enjoy.

Discrimination against minorities is one definition of bigotry.

At the very least it is a very unpleasant form of exclusivity, but of course you believe that any attempt to include those people whose lives you disparage is rampant "liberalism".

What a pity that they aren't asking for nominations to the club of the thread title!

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 05:13 PM

Wonderful argument, ake.

FROM ONE OF THE INMATES OF ROOM 101.

It makes me think of Aristotle, Satre and Russell rolled into one. Have you ever thought of making a living in politics?

SRS - You owe me a new keyboard :-)

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: gnu
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 05:41 PM

Hahahahahaaaaaa... aaahhahahaha!! I am on my third tissue!!! I left the thread but decided to see what was up. I chose a random post to start with and find out there are gay Scots who wanna marry and someone doesn't like it? FUUUUUCK me! Hahahahahaaa.

Oh, I can be a right prick if pricked but I don't go around being a prick. Matter of fact, since I am half French and half Irish decent I figure I deserve at least a Red Belt without even trying.

Mick... no PM. Can I be awarded at least a Red Belt just based on lineage? As for any belts above such stature, I doubt if I could achieve such given the shite I have read on this thread alone. So inane that it made me laugh to the point of tissues. I went head to head with many of the wannabe black belt holders over the years as many Mudcatters did but, in the end, it's just banter if you don't include the true trash... and we all know who they were before they were banned. Well, some of them. Some got banned with little fanfare.

So! I thank youse all for the extraordinary laughs and can only say... Carry on. Smoke em if ya got em. Give er all she'll suffer and don't back off til she breaks.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Big Mick
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 07:39 PM

Yeah, Maggie, I am reading it. The usual suspects are doing exact y what I knew they would. It's like watching a convention of Pavlov's dogs. I agree with gnu. I am enjoying the hell out of watching them make my point.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 07:50 PM

I am enjoying the hell out of watching them make my point.

Your point being?

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Ed T
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 08:03 PM

""For the puppetmaster, winning the contest is more important than winning the prize."

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 08:20 PM

I'm trying to stay out of this thread, although I notice my name has been mentioned more often than makes me feel comfortable.....


"Back in the Day," Rick Fielding and I would converse privately about such matters.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: gnu
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 08:30 PM

"Your point being?"

Hahahahahahahahahahaa.... stop it! Yer gonna make me laugh so hard I can't catch my breath.

Good one, Greg!

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 08:40 PM

Does the Black Belt serve to stop premature ejaculation? Or is it just a cock-ring designed to keep your peckers up?

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 08:58 PM

Gnu: Hahahahahaaaaaa... aaahhahahaha!! I am on my third tissue!!! I left the thread but decided to see what was up. I chose a random post to start with and find out there are gay Scots who wanna marry and someone doesn't like it? FUUUUUCK me! Hahahahahaaa.

Oh, I can be a right prick if pricked but I don't go around being a prick.

Big Mick: I agree with gnu.

Bwahahahaha! I nominate you as the first member of your own club, Big Mick!

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Apr 14 - 11:45 PM

We have gay members. How depressing to innocently open a post and seeing someone make sweeping untrue lies about you without even knowing you?

So its OK to make sweeping untrue lies if you know the person?

"Bwahahahaha! I nominate you as the first member of your own club, Big Mick! " Shaw, if you aren't a member by now, there aren't going to be any.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Apr 14 - 12:10 AM

Dave the Gnome, you're welcome, and I suspect you are disqualified from joining this not-so-august group.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 05 Apr 14 - 02:52 AM

I doubt any of us were nominated by pm to Mick but now we are all here, we should set up some club rules.

Our nautical friend can write them if he wants, he used to like rules as I recall.

By the way Jack. Yes, it alright to be abusive towards abusive people. Pacifist I ain't.




ps. Can we throw Dave out? He is trying to organise a splinter group, a reformed club already!



Joe. It was in context when I mentioned you. Cause and effect and all that.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 05 Apr 14 - 04:01 AM

No problem, SRS. As Musket says, I have formed a splinter group :-) It's OK though - I have arranged that we meet on different nights.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 05 Apr 14 - 06:12 AM

I am doing okay Ake. They've re-released Rummenigge ,for the fist time as a download, in time for the world cup! And you get worldwide release with this download business. so I have kept May free - but I am doing a few gigs as well.

As for this other business. I think we're both of age. I do not agree with you. most peoples views of gay matters have moved on. I think you would be surprised how attitudes have changed amongst your neighbours.

the old terms of abuse have lived on.. its like fat. its a handy detail about your private life to beat someone up that has pissed you off. being gay doesn't mean you're not a twat. the queer joke - not as prevalent as it used to be - but it lives on.

we're just old mate!

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Big Mick
Date: 05 Apr 14 - 09:05 AM

Folks, the point is simple. Intense, heated debate of issues is fine. Attacking ideas is great. Personal attack is just being an asshat.

But I do note that ones who are most guilty of arrogant, smug, bullying behavior are the ones moaning the loudest. While I have enjoyed watching them react in predictable ways, the real point of the thread is twofold. First, there is no need to be an arsehole/asshole as you vigorously debate or discuss issues. Attack, passionately, ideas and issues you believe in, but leave the personal attacks home. This includes bullying. The examples of gang bullying among a certain group here are disgusting. The second point was to give a thread where the majority of Mudcatters could see exactly who the asshats were. Thanks for cooperating so brilliantly. You have shown your wares for all to see.

Why is being decent to one another so hard on the internet?

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 05 Apr 14 - 09:14 AM

what is this asshat business, Mick?

I'm not sure we have that word yet. Sometimes we don't pick up on the subtleties....

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Musket
Date: 05 Apr 14 - 09:26 AM

My asshat happens to be made from muleskin....



Where but on the internet can you be accused of being a gang member and a bully by a fool?

Keep banging the rocks together!

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Big Mick
Date: 05 Apr 14 - 09:32 AM

If you want an example of decent discussion, go to the "BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you.. " thread and begin reading with Joe Offer's post of 03 April at 04:19 AM. Note how Joe, for,the most part, responds with respect and attempts to keep the discussion on the issues at hand. He does it despite the provocations laid out. Note how certain provocateurs continue to try and make it about people instead of ideas. I agree with Joe, for example, about ake. I think he is as wrong as he can be with his views on homosexuality, but he tries to express them based on his belief system.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Stu
Date: 05 Apr 14 - 09:37 AM

"Attack, passionately, ideas and issues you believe in..."

A blessing!

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Jeri
Date: 05 Apr 14 - 09:39 AM

Re: 'asshat'
If you're wearing your ass for a hat, where's your head?

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Apr 14 - 09:50 AM

No one is accusing you of being a bully Musket. That ship has long sailed. You say that you are a bully because Ake is a bigot. But you are a grown man who says he is responsible in the real world. You know that bullying is exactly the wrong way to fight ignorance.

Sorry to be harsh, but that is the reality that I see.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Ed T
Date: 05 Apr 14 - 09:51 AM

"Tickling with sharp things isn't usually called tickling"

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Musket
Date: 05 Apr 14 - 09:52 AM

Aye, prisons are full of people found guilty of practicing their belief systems....

Most civilised countries have had to sadly pass laws protecting people from discrimination, gay people being a good example. Further to that, publishing incitement to hatred is an offence. So publishing views is fine, but stating that being gay is against natural law, stating that they are the main cause of HIV, stating that they have open relationships with multiple partners, Stating they are rare in Scotland, stating that they are only interested in sex not love....

To what end?

Oh yes.. Proposing that gay people should have to report to the authorities three times a year for invasive clinical tests. Not people who have unprotected sex with multiple partners, not even people who have sex at all. Just for being gay.

Mick. You are so wrong when you defend his right. He has a right to a view. He has no right to influence opinion with homophobic lies intended to vilify sections of society.

People have ideas, if you hadn't noticed.

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: bobad
Date: 05 Apr 14 - 09:56 AM

"Why is being decent to one another so hard on the internet?"

What makes you think they don't behave the same away from the internet?

Subject: RE: BS: Black Belt Obstreperous Prick Club
From: Stu
Date: 05 Apr 14 - 09:56 AM

200. Back of the net!