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Subject: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: The Shambles Date: 14 Apr 99 - 05:17 AM This is one of those threads about songs, well it is a song but whether it's folk or not?????????? During the last week. I watched and listened to the Masters Golf, coming from Augusta, Georgia. I do this every year, but more for the look and sounds of the place than the golf. I have not been to the US and I find it very enjoyable to listen to the strange (to my ears) calls and songs of the local birds. Among them, there is one in particular that stands out. Can anyone help me identify a bird that we call in our house, The Golf Ball Warbler? I'm sure the bird is so common there that locals probably wouldn't even notice it. The call/song is a very strident low-hi, low-hi, low-hi, low-HI and the microphones there pick it up very well. The problem is I can't eliminate anything else, or narrow it down, as they are all new to me and I have no point of reference. Despite raising your suspicions, this is a serious request (but not THAT serious). Many thanks already to Barbara (bless her), who is very kindly sending a tape for me and Joe Offer, who despite wanting more threads on songs, failed miserably to be of any help at all on this one. *smiles* |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: Jon W. Date: 14 Apr 99 - 10:23 AM I'm not even going to make a joke about whether the bird is holding it's wing to it's ear when it sings. There, I didn't. |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: AlistairUK Date: 14 Apr 99 - 02:21 PM or if it's plumage is aran. |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: rich r Date: 14 Apr 99 - 11:46 PM Two likely candidates for that part of the country are the cardinal, whose song consists of a series of strong farily shrill but at the same time quite musical whistles. Some are ascending in pitch and some are descending and others are a bit more warbling. Another prominant possibility would be the mockingbird which has its own song but, as the name implies, is capable of imitating many other species that are sympatric with it. Your local library may have recordings of bird songs that you could check out. rich r |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: The Shambles Date: 15 Apr 99 - 02:08 AM Thanks all. When Barbara's tape arrives, I should be able to identify it, but any suggestions are welcome to enable me to narrow it down. |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: Bill in Alabama Date: 15 Apr 99 - 05:55 AM Shambles-- I feel certain that the call you're hearing is that of the cardinal. My mother, an American Indian of the Cherokee Tribe, used to tell us that the bird was calling 'pret-ty, pret-ty, pret-ty.' On the other hand, as Rich has pointed out, you could be hearing a mockingbird; but even if it's a mockingbird calling, he's using the call of the cardinal--so it's the same, I reckon. |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: Barbara Date: 15 Apr 99 - 06:48 AM When I was a kid, we said the cardinal said, "Birdie, birdie, birdie; what-cheer, what-cheer?" Which would be particularly appropriate for a golf course songster, hey? That sound like it, Sham? The cardinal is on the tape, as are some of my other guesses -- blackbird, robin... Blessings, Barbara |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: The Shambles Date: 15 Apr 99 - 06:50 AM We do seem to be narrowing it down, thanks to all. I'm glad we have seen all the puns, now, or have we? |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: catspaw49 Date: 15 Apr 99 - 10:59 AM Oh no Sham, why there have got to be more puns in this place than whistlers doing the "Col. Bogey March." I think it was a cardinal idea to bring it up because puns around here are par for the course. I too believe your birdie is a cardinal as they are very prevalent in the area. Also, just east of Augusta is a large eagle nesting ground. You can take shots of the eagles from very close range with your camera, but there are no guns allowed as it is illegal to put a hole in one. Augusta is a pretty town and a good driver can make it in just a couple hours from Atlanta. If you go, take a little time to putter around the shops in Augusta. AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH help... catspaw |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: The Shambles Date: 15 Apr 99 - 01:36 PM I am glad to see that God is in his heaven, all is well with the world and Catspaw is on (or off) form. *smiles* Must have used e'm all up now? Yours Albert Ross (three shots under par). |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: Ferrara Date: 15 Apr 99 - 02:29 PM Shambles, you're just askin' for trouble when you say things like that. Once at an open sing, Bill sang "Three Wet Pigs," which has an r-rated and very cheerful verse about the fate of fat pigs when they reach the sausage factory. Afterwards, a woman said, "Whew! I'm glad you people don't know any songs about cats!" -- Boy, was that a mistake. The next three songs performed were "The Cat Came Back," "She's nobody's Moggy (or Maugy) Now," and "The Body in the Bag." |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: LEJ Date: 15 Apr 99 - 03:14 PM I hope you aren't getting teed off at all the golf puns, Shambles. It's a matter of course for Catspaw to come up with em.It was a fair way from the original thread topic, for sure. But enough of that- I don't want to be the one to drive a wedge between the two of you...LEJ |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: catspaw49 Date: 15 Apr 99 - 04:02 PM Hell folks, I'm sorry, but my Dad was awful too and I'm a "chip" off the old block of "wood." I know I can be a bit "rough" at times, but many have seen that I've got some other intense sides making me difficult to "pin" down. Leej, there is nothing too negative between Shamb and I and nothing we can't "iron" out...'cept maybe this thread. Maybe if I keep this short, I can avoid that "trap." Of "course" I want to be sure we stay on target here so I will give some "links" back to the topic......I used to be in Augusta a lot as part of my job and I can assure you there are tons of cardinals there as well as the familiar ones in St. Louis and for obscure finanacial reasons, now in Arizona. It is the most popular state bird, but Arizona uses the roadrunner. catspaw |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: Joe Offer Date: 15 Apr 99 - 04:12 PM Well, Roger, I thought your reference to golf and birdies had something to do with being one under par. Can't find Georgia bird calls just now, but Florida's pretty close - click here. You might also find interesting things at the Website of the (U.S.) National Audobon Society. Oh, and click here for Official U.S. Government birdsongs (don't ask). And click here for a really interesting site. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: Banjeray (inactive) Date: 15 Apr 99 - 07:48 PM It appears that this whole thread has gone to the |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: The Shambles Date: 16 Apr 99 - 07:17 AM Thanks to you all.........I think I'll just retire to the 'bunker' now. |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: catspaw49 Date: 16 Apr 99 - 09:48 AM Dear Shambles, Okay, no more puns......hope we haven't gone out of bounds with the joking, but your thread turned into a cardinal idea! catspaw |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: Night Owl Date: 19 Apr 99 - 02:44 AM Shambles....can you come back out of the bunker for a sec. and let us know if Cardinal was the right bird or not?????? |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: The Shambles Date: 19 Apr 99 - 03:16 AM Well so far. The Cardinal sounds a little too sweet and musical and the Mockingbird is harsh enough but the notes are not right. It might just be the recordings I have heard are not helping or the TV microphones are making it sound different or the fact that it is not either of those two birds. I will keep you informed and welcome any further suggestions (well the physically possible ones anyway). Thanks again. |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: The Shambles Date: 27 Sep 00 - 01:35 PM Thanks to Barbara for sending me this from The Washington Post
9/25/00
WASHINGTON - After birders cried foul, CBS has decided to stop broadcasting canned bird songs during its coverage of golf tournaments.
Speculation about whether the network used taped bird sounds was a hot topic on birding chat sites this summer. People who know their birds were sure they were hearing some songs in the bacground at golf matches that did not belong in the tournament locations.
The Buick Open was in Michigan, for example, yet the dulcet tones of a canyon wren were distinctly heard on CBS's telecast. And everyone knows that canyon wrens never venture east of Texas (not to mention north --bbm).
Soem birders complainded that the tapes interfered with their hobby of listening for songs during sports events. Other enthusiasts were thriled that the network cared enough to use bird sounds at all.
The Washington Post's D'Vera Cohn blew the lid off the scandal earlier this month after a CBS rep fessed up to using recorded songs -- though the network did so only after making every effort to get local talent to perform, up to and including bribing them with birdseed left next to mikes at tourney sites.
But a network spokeswoman told Cohn that from now on CBS will use only natural sound or none at all. May explain some of the identification problems? |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: Kim C Date: 27 Sep 00 - 01:50 PM heeheeheeheehee :D |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: Margaret V Date: 27 Sep 00 - 06:50 PM Wow. Maybe the profligate use of chemicals in the maintenance of golf courses has driven (ahem!) the real birds away.... Margaret |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: The Shambles Date: 05 Apr 01 - 05:34 AM The Masters golf starts today. Have a listen for me? |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 11 Apr 01 - 10:07 AM Hey Shambles, you might be interested in this link, Tom Dorsey's column from the Louisville Courier-Journal Newspaper. (In case the text is not posted yet...) it says in an April 11, 2001 article: ********************************************************************** Tiger Woods wasn't the only one looking for birdies at the Masters golf tournament from Augusta, Ga., over the weekend. The eagle eyes and eager ears of professional bird-watchers were tuned in to see if CBS Sports was cheating again, according to The Washington Post. Last year CBS was caught dubbing in the background sounds of fine-feathered friends who didn't belong on the famed course. An eastern towhee, blue jay, Carolina wren, American robin and a tufted titmouse were overheard chirping during this weekend's broadcast. The bird-watchers say all those frequent fliers are bonafide residents of the area. No word on whether the birds were live or taped. ********************************************************** Mary PS So is this the "real poop"?????? |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: The Shambles Date: 11 Apr 01 - 12:21 PM Many thanks Mary. *smiles* |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: GUEST Date: 11 Apr 01 - 03:45 PM I think there was a taped component because a couple times songs did not seem to be interrupted when the secne cut to a different hole |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: GUEST,#1 Date: 11 Apr 01 - 04:53 PM Glad I'm not a female Golf Ball Warbler. Laying those golf balls must be tough. |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: GUEST,Newbirdguy Date: 04 Jun 11 - 09:34 AM If this is still alive, I know precisely the call you are talking about. I am trying to find it now. It goes "hey, birdie! Hey, birdie, birdie!" You can just imagine the little hep-cat up there tapping his toes belting it out. It is not the cardinal as some have suggested. |
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Subject: RE: Help with Southern 'birdie' song??? From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 04 Jun 11 - 11:23 AM I don't think Shambles comes by any more. Anyhow, when somebody says a bird sings Hi Low, Hi Low, it makes me think of a chickadee. Here's a page where you can hear the hi-low call of the chickadee. http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Black-capped_Chickadee/id |
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