A little vintage Art Thieme

Subject: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick
Date: 06 Sep 07 - 08:08 PM

A few weeks ago I recorded off the air part of a set Art Thieme performed on November 4, 1979 at a benefit for Michael Cooney at Stages Music Hall in Chicago. Here's a 13.5 minute MP3 -- not very well recorded, I'm afraid -- consisting of:

The Kansas Cyclone / Shady Grove (trad)
Various song parodies
Cheyenne Indian Story
Sioux Indians (trad)
Down By The Embarras (Stracke)

The Sioux Indians performance is the one included on the marvelous collection of Art's live performances titled Chicago Town & Points West: Folk-Legacy CD-135, available here .

—BK

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Janie
Date: 06 Sep 07 - 08:54 PM

Enjoyed that immensely! Thanks BK. (And thanks Art:>)

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: SINSULL
Date: 06 Sep 07 - 09:29 PM

Thank you Art and BK. Wonderful stuff.

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Amos
Date: 07 Sep 07 - 12:41 AM

Man, Art, you're an easy guy to listen to!


A

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme
Date: 07 Sep 07 - 12:12 PM

B.K.,----thanks for putting this here. I guess, the older I get, the better I was!

Art

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie)
Date: 07 Sep 07 - 06:47 PM

You're still the best, Art! And I still remember when we first met, at a coffeehouse in...was it Minnesota? I was really impressed that you were on the bill with me...and how much we laughed when you told the turtle drive story...now you're gonna say that my memory is all mixed up, and it probably is- but the memory's still a good one. Thanks          Jean

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick
Date: 07 Sep 07 - 07:06 PM

The older I get, the better I was

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick
Date: 13 Sep 07 - 08:09 PM

Art sent me a CD containing all of the two sets he did at that benefit and I'm replacing the excerpt I first put up with the following MP3 files.

Introduction by Ed Holstein, and State of Illinois [7'43"] click
Talking Dustbowl (Woodie Guthrie) [4'10"] click
The Kansas Cyclone / Shady Grove (trad) [3'03"] click
Summertime, and Home On the Range, accompanied on Art's Martin musical saw [4'15"] click
Various song parodies [2'43"] click
Cheyenne Indian Story, and Sioux Indians (trad) [4'48"] click
Hard times medley (including Art's favorite line in all of folk music) [7'36"] click
Jaw harp and jokes [3'08"] click
I've Been All Around This World [2'10"] click
Down By The Embarras (Stracke) [2'41"] click

It's prety darn wonderful stuff.

—BK

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Sep 07 - 09:25 PM

Man, my apologies, Art!!! Sorry it took me so long to get in here! Wonderful work, BK, thanks!!

I off until Tuesday, but will have time to listen more when I get back.

Thanks, Art, for your beautiful, wonderful music!

luvyakat

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme
Date: 14 Sep 07 - 09:29 PM

I suppose I can always count on Kat for a spirit boost if I need one. ;-)
Kat, I'm glad you like some of the old work I did.

Bruce, thanks for putting this here where any interested in it can find it. On we go.

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: GUEST,Dave Zeman
Date: 14 Sep 07 - 09:57 PM

Wow I haven't been to this forum in ages... just tonight I had a night off from the normal stuff picked up the guitar played one of my favorite songs of Utah Phillips, I remember lovin you, and then tried my best to remember Nevada Jane, and after my wife sang three lines, then I was back into it... then did an old stand by that I learned from you Art.. (Or at least that tab book I bought from Fritz) Railroad Blues and Nine Pound Hammer... because of you I can do a train whistle... one more time....

Why I'm here and why I had to search MudCat... Fritz Shuler did a song that went, "I'll be there in the morning if I will, I'll be there if I won't get killed...." "...My baby lives in a ____, but it's a brickhouse just the same..." I remember the chorus and one verse...

What song was that?

btw... I maintain a songwriting blog at http://www.myspace.com/davezeman

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Ron Davies
Date: 14 Sep 07 - 10:35 PM

O man o man, what great stuff! Art, it sounds like you're smiling with every word.

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: GUEST,Dave Zeman
Date: 15 Sep 07 - 10:11 AM

Wow... just listened to a few of those posted songs... takes me back... Lori and I still sing the Touch me song.... I guess when you have cats. ;-)

Dave

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: kendall
Date: 15 Sep 07 - 10:45 AM

You think this stuff is good? Well, it sure as hell is, but you should try sharing the stage with this guy. We did a humor workshop at a Hartford folk festival many years ago, and it is still a high point in my life. Thanks for being who you are my friend.

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme
Date: 16 Sep 07 - 03:30 PM

Dave, We were just in Manitowoc for a week---staying with Crol's brother and his wife. They came down here to Peru and drove us and my chair to and fro. And for 3 days I sat and schmoozed with Fritz and Mary in their "Golden Ring Music And Folklore Center!" What a treat it was now that I'm not around the music to any extent. Check with Fritz; we might be up to doing it again next year.

Kendall, I too remember that workshop well. Sorry for stealing so many of your tales and jokes!

Jean, I think I first met you in either Rockford, Illinois or maybe La Crosse, Wisconsin---the Great River Folk Festival. (Maybe a time it rained and the festival was brought indoors.) You did the opening concert I seem to trecall!?

Or was it at the Quiet Knight folk club in Chicago---in the 1970s?
Who knows? I think I did open for you there. Richard Hading's place.

Also on the bill for that banefit for Michael Cooney was Steve Goodman, Cindy Mangsen, and a guy named Pete Seeger. Just us 4.

Art

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stringsinger
Date: 16 Sep 07 - 03:34 PM

Art, we are all fans. Your performances are classic.

Frank Hamilton

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: kendall
Date: 16 Sep 07 - 05:15 PM

Your puns are a riot too. ..lock moss nesters indeed!

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick
Date: 16 Sep 07 - 09:15 PM

Art -- and Cindy was joined by Anne Hills and Steve was joined by Jethro Burns.

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme
Date: 16 Sep 07 - 09:34 PM

And Bob Gibson and Allan Damron were in on the finale of "Mama Don't Allow."

Pete had a terrible cold that day and couldn't sing much at all. Steve Goodman just TOOK OVER when he had to and everybody seemed to enjoy the show. Pete sang one line of a song, motioned to the audience to join him like he does, and everyone DID. Pretty soon the song was over. Then he did an instrumental or two. Or we all joined Pete...
Stage's Music Hall was sold out for both the day show and the night show. Good memories, for sure.

Art

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Brendy
Date: 17 Sep 07 - 07:32 PM

Excellent stuff, Art. Thanks for that BK.

B.

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme
Date: 19 Sep 07 - 09:23 PM

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: David Zeman
Date: 21 Sep 07 - 08:25 PM

Dang... I wish I knew you were going to be in Manty... I would have traveled back.. give me an excuse to see my family again.

Hope Fritz and Mary are doing fine.

Dave

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: GUEST,Dan Keding
Date: 21 Sep 07 - 10:38 PM

Art,

As always, your music made me realize what a treasure we have in you. Your like an old ballad - each time I hear you I hear something new, something I missed the first time that just makes the song come alive again.

Take care my friend and we'll meet down the road soon.

Dan

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Sep 07 - 11:12 AM

Good way to describe our Fine Art, Dan.

Art, just listening, again. Still my very favourite, esp. that "Martin" saw!

luvyakat

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: nutty
Date: 22 Sep 07 - 11:46 AM

Didn't manage to hear the MP3 - sorry Art.

But was hugely entertained by the manic depressive web server - that really should be commercialised.

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick
Date: 22 Sep 07 - 04:51 PM

Oops, sorry 'bout that -- I'd removed the original MP3 from the server when I put up the later ones. I've fixed things so clicking on the link in my original post will now redirect you to post number 8 instead of the manic depressive web server's 404 message.

—BK

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme
Date: 22 Sep 07 - 11:26 PM

Whew, Dan, ALWAYS, thanks for that, and for your friendship through the last 30 years. People, Dan Keding is a grand storyteller of world wide repute. He has written the storytelling column in Sing Out! magazine every issue for many years.
Daniel, it was great seeing you and Tandy recently. Love to you both.

Bruce, I wasn't aware of any of that, but whatever went down, I'm sure you're on top of it. Thanks!
People: B.K. is the one on whose website my folk scene photos are exhibited. Once again, he recently added a couple hundred of the photos I took the decade I played music on the Mississippi River.

All the best to you all,
Art

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: chazkratz
Date: 26 Sep 07 - 08:17 PM

Art, I've had Chicago, Wilderness Road, and That's the Ticket in my car stereo for the last couple of weeks listening to them over and over in joy and wonder at your ability to bring a song to life and tell a story--and at your terrific banjo frailing. The Older I Get... is around the house somewhere, and when I find it it'll join the others in my iTunes and then in my car--and also, somewhere around the house, is the tape you sent me when I was trying to find the lyrics and tune for Fare Thee Titanic (gargoyle sent me the words at about the same time). That tape also has the herding turtles story--an absolute classic!

What is B.K.'s website with all your pictures?

Great to see you are still around Mudcat as master of the sheepfold.

Charles(--seed)

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick
Date: 26 Sep 07 - 09:47 PM

Here are Art's People, Places, and River Years Photos. clicky here

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme
Date: 27 Sep 07 - 12:37 AM

Charles, Thanks so much. I'm glad you're enjoying my stuff. I surely did enjoy doing it during those productive years. I remember your being here at Mudcat around '98 -- when I'd just found this site. It really was a needed quenching oasis for me.
Bruce, again, I'm grateful for all you've done.

Art

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 12:42 AM

I love that line that "it took Studs 500 pages" to say what that one folksong line said. :)

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: kendall
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 06:55 AM

Brevity is the soul of wit.

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Amos
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 10:32 AM

Art Thieme, you are TOO good. I jes' love yer stuff all to bits.


A

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Charley Noble
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 09:02 PM

Thanks for refreshing this thread.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 09:06 PM

Actually Kendall, I tend to go along with Dorothy Parker who modified that to say, "Brevity is the soul of lingerie."

Spaw

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 09:24 PM

You would, Spaw! LOL!

Thanks, SRS, for the refresh!

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 10:35 PM

It linked from another thread or I'd never have found it.

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 11:18 PM

Art, your songs are a joy. Thanks, BK.

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stringsinger
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 04:38 PM

Great stuff! Love Art's work. I downloaded 'em and got 'em in iTunes now. Thanks.
Good selection of songs and witty patter. His humanity comes through so well.

Frank Hamilton

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stringsinger
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 04:40 PM

BK Thanks for sending us the mp3's. Great to have them.

Frank Hamilton

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: GUEST,Alex
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 12:15 AM

Well, Some time ago (18+ months) I sent Sandy Patton an original tape of an Art Thieme concert video from the 1990's with a request for him to market it to Art's benefit. It was VHS with good audio. Perhaps petitions and subscription offers to Sandy might make this a possible video offering? Sandy - it's in your court!

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 01:21 AM

Good tunes, Art! Except for the excruciating Loch Moss Nester joke, you're the greatest!

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Feb 08 - 11:30 PM

"Amy Carter took up skiing so she could go downhill with her dad."

Groan

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Feb 08 - 12:59 PM

More to groan over this morning, when I found a CD from Art in my post office box. "Studs Turtle" indeed!

Thanks, Art! :)

That got me looking. I did a Mudcat Forum search on "Art Thieme" and find an avalanche of stuff, including (apparently) all of his 5000+ posts--all good, but takes a long time to go through. Is there a way to search ONLY the thread titles for his name, to narrow it down to the threads started by others, with quotes, remarks, discography, bibliography info, etc.? I'm sure I'm forgetting a step. I don't have them all traced in my list (and that's pretty long, over all of these years).

SRS

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: topical tom
Date: 18 Feb 08 - 05:17 PM

Wonderful music and banter, Art!Thanks so much, BK, for providing such terrific, enduring folk music.

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Abby Sale
Date: 25 May 08 - 03:28 PM

Oh, horsepuckey, goddammn & phutt! I knew about this thread in September and didn't get to it. My only excuse is a blind, drunk, stupid (lady) driver in a van who was talking on the phone, doing her nails and chatting with her children in the back run me down just a week before. Plain run me over while I was out legally & safely (& even soberly - never drink and roll, friends) Rollerblading. I don't blame you for not believing me but I never would lie to my good friends. My URL: myspace.com/abbysale



Well, it was worth the pain just to finally catch this thread and some more terrific Thieminess. There couldn't be too much.



Thanks, Art.

Abby

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick
Date: 25 May 08 - 10:45 PM

Abby's URL

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick
Date: 25 May 08 - 11:05 PM

SRS asked: "is there a way to search ONLY the thread titles for his name, to narrow it down to the threads started by others..."
Sure -- just enter "art thieme" into the Filter box, select "Age: all" from the pull down menu, and click on "Refresh."

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 26 May 08 - 06:05 AM

BK -

With the present setup, "art thieme" in the filter box and age "all" will get you the first thousand threads that have both "art" and "thieme" in the title. The list returned is limited to 1,000 threads now. ("Age: all" with no filter word(s) now gets only about 2 weeks worth.)

I guess it will take some "research" to see if that's sufficient to get all the places he's been cussed and discussed here (by name), although it should be a good start. There may be a few threads with just "Art" and/or just things like "the ESTEEMED AND HONORABLE MR THIEME" that would be missed with that search as well.

We heard a rumor that there was some guy gonna write up an autobigliogligraphy, so some may have figured that the guy who's gonna do it should do most of the work; but in the absence of any report on that work, maybe we need to do some diggin' around to help out(?).

John

Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick
Date: 26 May 08 - 02:41 PM

JohnInKansas --

That ain't the way it works for me -- I get these 50 thread titles, dating back to 1999:

A little vintage Art Thieme         49        26 May 08 - 06:05 AM
Art Thieme contact info?         16        15 May 08 - 11:01 PM
Art Thieme's CD: The Older I Get, The Better I Was         109* d        20 Mar 08 - 05:53 PM
Art Thieme Offline for a while         154* d        26 Feb 08 - 01:02 PM
Happy Birthday, Art Thieme!!!         47        12 Jul 07 - 08:11 PM
Review: Art Thieme Rides Again         5        04 Jun 07 - 07:46 PM
Art Thieme Recordings - Now on CD!         55* d        11 Apr 07 - 04:36 PM
Art Thieme's computer has died         37        08 Nov 06 - 12:49 PM
Art Thieme in Boston Globe (8/18/06)         41        16 Sep 06 - 06:15 PM
Art Thieme at Fox Valley Folk & Storytelling Fest         6        07 Sep 06 - 10:38 PM
BS: Happy birthday Art Thieme         55* d        14 Jul 06 - 12:31 PM
Art Thieme-new CD out on Folk Legacy!!!         61* d        18 May 06 - 10:01 PM
Beautiful write-up on Art Thieme         62* d        27 Feb 06 - 09:47 PM
BS: Art Thieme - a question for you         12        30 Jan 06 - 04:50 PM
Song samples & notes for Art Thiemes NEW CD         11        18 Oct 05 - 11:26 AM
Chord Req: State of Illinois (Art Thieme)         9        18 Oct 05 - 01:00 AM
Smithsonian solicits Art Thieme's photos         24        03 Oct 05 - 11:28 AM
Happy Birthday To Art Thieme         63* d        10 Jul 05 - 08:45 PM
Happy! - July 9 (Art Thieme)         1        09 Jul 05 - 09:50 AM
Art Thieme off line for move/renovation         17        09 May 05 - 01:07 PM
Art Thieme back on line...Nov. 11, 04         25        14 Nov 04 - 02:51 PM
Art Thieme's offline for a bit         11        01 Nov 04 - 04:56 PM
New Art Thieme material! 7 Feb.         21        15 Feb 04 - 09:54 AM
Art Thieme Discography?         3        26 Jan 04 - 07:41 AM
THANK YOU from Art Thieme !!!!         23        25 Jan 04 - 03:49 PM
Art's back! Welcome back Art Thieme         18        02 Dec 03 - 07:51 AM
Art Thieme says Hi!!!         6        26 Nov 03 - 12:28 AM
Art Thieme's Music On Radio - Nov. 15th         2        11 Nov 03 - 11:25 AM
Concert Hall Named in Art Thieme's honor-6 June!         38        09 Jun 03 - 03:31 PM
Tech: Looks like Art Thieme's computer is down         37        02 May 03 - 04:58 PM
Art Thieme & Utah Phillips: Honor 'Em!         11        15 Apr 03 - 10:55 AM
Good on you, Art Thieme!         23        15 Apr 03 - 07:05 AM
Art Thieme, Historian         42        20 Dec 02 - 12:42 PM
BS: Portraying an 'Art Thieme' in calendar         3        07 Dec 02 - 12:59 AM
BS: I may have known Art Thieme         4        24 Nov 02 - 10:34 PM
Art Thieme At Fox Valley Festival         12        06 Sep 02 - 10:20 PM
Message from Art Thieme         17        11 Aug 02 - 07:38 PM
ART THIEME gets LIFETIME Achievement Award!!         61* d        23 Jul 02 - 04:38 PM
BS: Happy Birthday, Art Thieme!         51* d        09 Jul 01 - 11:02 PM
ART THIEME's Humour in Reader's Digest         24        02 Jul 01 - 11:42 PM
Lyr Add: Impeachment Time In Georgia (Art Thieme)         33        01 Oct 00 - 12:46 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY ART THIEME & OTHERS!!         34        11 Jul 00 - 06:46 PM
Art Thieme's gem         18        09 Jul 00 - 12:00 AM
BS: Yo, Art Thieme         5        06 Mar 00 - 12:21 PM
art thieme/valdy         11        20 Jan 00 - 08:46 PM
Congrats to Art Thieme         41        07 Jan 00 - 10:27 AM
Art Thieme's 'Outright, Boldfaced Lies'         11        31 Dec 99 - 03:04 AM
Art Thieme's 'On The River' - Auction         7        04 Nov 99 - 08:08 PM
Art Thieme, Allen C.         70* d        20 Aug 99 - 07:00 PM
WYO NPR Features new Art Thieme CD!         7        13 Feb 99 - 05:39 PM

There are "Trace links" making it easy to trace all 50 theads.

—BK