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Subject: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 31 Oct 07 - 06:35 AM It does not look much, but we should not be seeing it at all. A small comet out beyond Mars. It suddenly exploded in size and became a million times brighter. Maybe suffered an impact? To the eye you can just see that it is more than a starlike point. With binoculars it appears as a fuz ball. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 31 Oct 07 - 06:37 AM http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/home/10775326.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: GUEST,CrazyEddie Date: 31 Oct 07 - 06:38 AM The Chances of Anything Coming from Mars, Are a Million to one... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 31 Oct 07 - 08:37 AM But still, they come. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: beardedbruce Date: 31 Oct 07 - 09:32 AM Orbit adjusts by the crew? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Rapparee Date: 31 Oct 07 - 09:33 AM Not a comet, but an invading force of space aliens from the planet Muzzyphat. It was destroyed by the Lensmen. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Peace Date: 31 Oct 07 - 09:53 AM "Anyone seen strange comet" I saw many during the '60s . . . . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 31 Oct 07 - 01:32 PM There is weirder stuff than above posts if you go looking. The signifigance of why Comet Holmes has appeared in the Perseus constellation has also raised many questions. In Greek mythology Perseus was the first of the mythic heroes and was credited with killing the Gorgon, Medusa. In the constellation, Perseus is said to be holding the head of Medusa in his left hand and many are stating that Comet Holmes has appeared in the area of Medusa's third eye, signifying an awakening of evil, grief and doom. The comet appeared next to the star Algol, which is considered to be the head of Satan. Some have suggested that this light in the sky is man-made and is leading to a scenario laid out for us by Wernher Von Braun in the 70s and Canadian journalist Serge Monast in the 90s of a faked alien invasion called Project Blue Beam. Braun, the former director of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center, explained to his assistant before his death in 1977, that the government had planned to lead us into a cold war, a war of rogue nations, global terrorism and then a faked alien invasion in order to keep the people fearful and the war budget funded. Some are quoting the Bible and speak of the dragon being thrown to the earth, bringing with him one third of the stars from the heavens. Others state this comet is a sign from God that the fateful and alert will recognize, as it has been predicted to herald the beginning of great changes. Nostradamus has been mentioned, along with his prediction of a great and terrifying King descending from the sky. And the Hopi Indian prophecy of the Blue Kachina star bringing the Fifth World into existence has also been discussed. Some have implied that this comet will continue to behave erratically, eventually garnishing attention from the mainstream media and will cause great fear to spread across the globe. Others believe it is not a comet at all, but something new under the sun and that when the experts are able to define it, they will have to admit many mistakes about the nature of the Universe. A few believers of the "not a comet" idea think that we are watching the birth of a new planet and still others contend that it may be our galactic siblings coming for an introduction. Some have suggested that the reason for Comet Holmes sudden brightening means it was impacted by an asteroid or that NASA shot an explosive device into it as they did with the Tempel Comet in 2005. Many are questioning the coincidence of the Space Shuttle launch ocurring within hours of the sudden change in appearance of the comet. And others have implied that sending a comet into the earth, and guiding it as was practiced with Comet Tempel, would achieve the New World Order agenda of depopulation without the messiness of a nuclear bomb. I'm convinced! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Little Hawk Date: 31 Oct 07 - 04:09 PM My goodness! Well, there are a lot of intriguing speculations for you... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Beer Date: 31 Oct 07 - 04:32 PM Good line Peace. Lol. Beer (adrien) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Becca72 Date: 31 Oct 07 - 04:42 PM Is it time to make the Kool-Aid already? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: GUEST Date: 31 Oct 07 - 04:44 PM Comet Holmes has "exploded" before. Not sure why. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Date: 31 Oct 07 - 04:48 PM It was because Comet Watson didn't allow the tea to steep properly before pouring it... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: bubblyrat Date: 31 Oct 07 - 05:03 PM These events were predicted by the famous Rodent with the gift of clairvoyance------NOSTRADORMOUSE. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: JohnInKansas Date: 31 Oct 07 - 07:00 PM Holmes gives a simplified sketch and description for locating the comet. Don't let the mundane description spoil your speculations. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: number 6 Date: 31 Oct 07 - 07:01 PM a strange comet biLL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: JohnInKansas Date: 31 Oct 07 - 07:15 PM And #6's strange comet caused a major upheaval 'mongst the scholars when it disappeared abruptly, leading to whole new lines of mathematical analysis, and new mystic cults of people who called themselves "fatigue analysts." Their rituals remain mostly unfathonable for mere mortals, but the secretive society that they formed has transformed many fields of commercial progress(?). John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Don Firth Date: 31 Oct 07 - 07:19 PM Well, actually, this is the latest plot by Bush and Cheney. The Iraq war has turned out to be a complete pig's breakfast, and although they talk about it a lot, going to war with Iran is just too darned scary! So to maintain that Fear of The Other that cows a populace enough for them to allow the government to seize full control in the guise of protecting them from the External Danger, they have manufactured this Threat of Alien Invasion. Mark my words! In not too many weeks, Bush will declare Martian Law, take control of the Earth, round up political opponents, and torture confessions out of them by forcing them to listen to recordings of his speeches! Oh, the Horror!! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Peace Date: 31 Oct 07 - 09:27 PM "The Chances of Anything Coming from Mars, Are a Million to one... " The 'odds are' argument is often brought out when the 'heavens' are involved. Canada has a lottery that it calls 6/49. The object is to pick six of forty-nine numbers. If those are the numbers chosen by the machine that drops six balls from a machine (the balls numbered 1-49) THEN SOME LUCKY TICKET HOLDER BECOMES A MILLIONAIRE. What are the odds? 49 x 48 x 47 x 46 x 45 x 44 = 1/10,068,347,520 Someone wins almost every draw. There are millions of tickets sold, but certainly not billions. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: JohnInKansas Date: 31 Oct 07 - 11:52 PM er - a - Peace, Since the 6 balls can be chosen in any order (can't they?) you need a divide by 6! 49*48*47*46*45*44/(6*5*4*3*2) = 13,983,816 About 1 in 14*106. You only need to buy 14 tickets to have a 1-in-a-million chance. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Liz the Squeak Date: 01 Nov 07 - 01:26 AM I had three glasses of new sloe gin last night. Anything I saw could possibly have been only in my eyeballs. LTSH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 01 Nov 07 - 03:44 AM "Algol, which is considered to be the head of Satan." As an ex programmer, I'd have to agree... :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Peace Date: 01 Nov 07 - 09:02 AM Thank you, John. I always wondered why people kept winning. So basically, alls I need to do is buy 14,000,000 tickets at $1.00/each and I'm statistically guaranteed to hit the jackpot, right? Huh. Easy way to make a million. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Peace Date: 01 Nov 07 - 09:04 AM Sorry for the thread drift--but let's keep this quiet, about the easy million. OK? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Bill D Date: 01 Nov 07 - 03:56 PM There was a guy a few years ago in some lottery who sold & mortgaged everything to buy enough tickets to have a 50/50 chance....he didn't win, and his wife or girlfriend was NOT happy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: beardedbruce Date: 09 Nov 07 - 07:54 AM Comet surprise makes it visible to naked eye Story Highlights Comet 17P/Holmes explodes, making its cloud bigger than Jupiter Comet can be seen in the northern sky, in the constellation Perseus Scientist: "This is a once-in-a-lifetime event to witness" KNOXVILLE, Tennessee (AP) -- A comet that unexpectedly brightened in the last couple of weeks and is now visible to the naked eye is attracting professional and amateur interest. Comet 17P/Holmes is seen among the stars of the constellation Perseus in the North-Eastern sky. Paul Lewis, director of astronomy outreach at the University of Tennessee, is drawing students to the roof of the Nielsen Physics Building for special viewings of Comet 17P/Holmes. The comet is exploding and its coma, a cloud of gas and dust illuminated by the sun, has grown to be bigger than the planet Jupiter. The comet lacks the tail usually associated with such celestial bodies but can be seen in the northern sky, in the constellation Perseus, as a fuzzy spot of light about as bright as the stars in the Big Dipper. "This is truly a celestial surprise," Lewis said. "Absolutely amazing." Until October 23, the comet had been visible to modern astronomers only with a telescope, but that night it suddenly erupted and expanded. A similar burst in 1892 led to the comet's discovery by Edwin Holmes. "This is a once-in-a-lifetime event to witness, along the lines of when Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 smashed into Jupiter back in 1994," Lewis said. Scientists speculate the comet has exploded because there are sinkholes in its nucleus, giving it a honeycomb-like structure. The collapse exposed comet ice to the sun, which transformed the ice into gas. "What comets do when they are near the sun is very unpredictable," Lewis said. "We expect to see a coma cloud and a tail, but this is more like an explosion, and we are seeing the bubble of gas and dust as it expands away from the center of the blast." Experts aren't sure how long the comet's show will last but estimate it could be weeks if not months. Using a telescope or binoculars help bring the comet's details into view, they said. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 09 Nov 07 - 08:24 AM I think it looks fainter now. It is still a striking object just with binoculars. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Grab Date: 09 Nov 07 - 08:38 AM Peace, that sounds like someone's comment about how to make a million dollars with a recording studio: "Start with three million." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Old Nick Date: 09 Nov 07 - 09:07 AM "There was a guy a few years ago in some lottery who sold & mortgaged everything to buy enough tickets to have a 50/50 chance....he didn't win, and his wife or girlfriend was NOT happy." Well that's women for you. You try your best and do they appreciate it? ................................................ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Peace Date: 09 Nov 07 - 10:01 AM Good one, Grab. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Kent Davis Date: 10 Nov 07 - 12:38 AM Yes, I've seen it 3 nights this week. It was too cloudy last night and tonight. Regarding lottery tickets, Peace's formula for figuring the odds, and JohninKansas's correction: I don't understand why you would divide by 6. Suppose we had a really simple lottery in which there are only 4 balls and only 3 slots. The number of possible combinations would be twenty-four: 1-2-3 2-1-3 3-1-2 4-1-2 1-2-4 2-1-4 3-1-4 4-1-3 1-3-2 2-3-1 3-2-1 4-2-1 1-3-4 2-3-4 3-2-4 4-2-3 1-4-2 2-4-1 3-4-1 4-3-1 1-4-3 2-4-3 3-4-2 4-3-2 The chances of winning that lottery would be one in twenty-four. The formula would be 1/[A X (A-1) x (A-2)] or 1/(4 x 3 x 2) or 1/24. You wouldn't divide by 3. Why, then, in the 6/49 lottery would you divide by 6? Kent |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Hitchin' John Date: 10 Nov 07 - 01:50 AM Kent Regarding your lottery chances the point is the slots (order of appearance)are not important, 1-2-3 is the same as 2-1-3 and 3-1-2. If the number and order were significant your calculation would be correct with 3 slots (balls drawn and only 4 balls) of your 24 combinations only 6 would not contain three numbers you selected and so you would have a 18 in 24 chance - 3 in 4 of winning. Little chance of somebody running this lottery unless it involves cups and balls. Regards john |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: JohnInKansas Date: 10 Nov 07 - 07:34 AM Hitchin' John has it right. Your original calculation would be correct if you had to pick your balls in a specific order. There are 49*48*47*46*45*44 ways to pick six balls out of 49. For that to be the entire answer it would be necessary that the balls have to picked in a specific order, say perhaps that the first ball has to be the smallest, the second ball the next smallest, etc, or that the balls have to be picked in some order specified on the judges' score card. Once you have your 6 balls, there are 6*5*4*3*2 ways (6!) that you can line them up, and still have the same group of 6, so you have to divide by the number of different sequences that might give you the same set of 6. In this lottery, 1-2-3 is the same as 1-3-2 is the same as 2-1-3 is the same as 2-3-1 is the same as 3-1-2 is the same as 3-2-1, since they all consist of the same three numbered balls. The "draws" that get those same three balls can be done in 3! (3*2*1) different ways, without changing which balls are in the result. If you're flipping a penny, the odds of getting a specific sequence of head-tails- ... is remarkably small, vanishing for a large number of flips (~1/2n). But the odds that about half of the flips will be heads and the other "about half" will be tails is pretty close to 1 - especially for a large number of flips. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Lorne's wife Date: 10 Nov 07 - 11:09 AM Take a look at www.spaceweather.com for images and information. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Anyone seen strange comet From: Kent Davis Date: 10 Nov 07 - 09:28 PM Thanks for explaining. I was glad to learn that my math was correct even though my understanding of the rules of the lottery were not. It's again too cloudy here to see the comet. For those with clear skies, here is a sky map to help you spot it. http://weblogs.marylandweather.com/Comet+Holmes+Finder_l.jpg Kent |
