Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK Channel 5)

Subject: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK)
From: GUEST,clockwatcher
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 08:06 AM

Anybody see it? Hidden away at 9 a.m. on Channel 5 on New Years Day was a 3-hour programme about the great RVW. Especially the first hour or so was particularly relevant here, what with the folksong collecting and English Hymnal stuff.

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK)
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 08:13 AM

Can't get 5. If it's broadcast on any of the other channels, someone PLEASE post a heads-up.

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK)
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 08:14 AM

Or if it gets put out on DVD

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK)
From: HipflaskAndy
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 09:12 AM

I caught a bit of it - most interesting overall - and included short clips of Carthy's Liza & Martin (individually) and brief words from Tony Benn and m' local rascal Karl Dallas! - worth watching if it reappears. - Duncan

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK)
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 09:24 AM

A superb bio of the great man - I found it very moving. Contributions from Martin and Elza Carthy too. I hope there's a repeat.

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK)
From: GUEST,Johnmc
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 09:32 AM

I believe it said there is a dvd on sale of this Tony Palmer film.

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK)
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 09:33 AM

I only caught the last hour, but they did announce at the end that it is being released on DVD.

eric

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK)
From: Flash Company
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 09:48 AM

Recorded, but not watched yet. Apparently this was offered to the BBC and they turned it down.

FC

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK)
From: r.padgett
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 09:54 AM

Yes saw some of this, very interesting!

Has mention of Holst, Elgar and Maude Karpeles and Ursula Vaughan Williams input

Wealthy upbringing and song collecting and influences becoming totally absorbed into his own compositions

Hope it is repeated and available on DVD as mentioned

Ray

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK)
From: GUEST,Edthefolkie
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 10:53 AM

I actually crawled out of bed at 0845 GMT on New Year's Day to watch this! Good stuff.

In addition to the folkies mentioned, Richard Thompson was interviewed. He remembered his time as an apprentice stained glass maker, when classical music was always on in the workshop, but usually Wagner and other German gents. Richard asked for some RVW, and was thereafter regarded as a bit of a lightweight.

If yer wants the DVD, see http://www.tonypalmerdvd.com/

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK)
From: Surreysinger
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 11:31 AM

I completely forgot this was on ...grrrr!!! I wanted to watch it to see if any mention was made of Lucy Broadwood, who he acknowledged to have introduced him to folksong as a young man, and with whom he maintained a friendship and a working relationship throughout her life,but I understand from a friend who watched it that there was no mention of her at all ... a rather sad omission IMHO.

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK)
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 11:33 AM

any mention of George Butterworth....?

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK)
From: GUEST,Edthefolkie
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 11:48 AM

Yes, George Butterworth was mentioned - only in passing though as one of the majority of RVW's contemporaries who were killed in WW1.

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK)
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 11:51 AM

I have just asked neflix to add this to their catalogue as I would love to see it. My brother, a composer, has always raved about RVW and I know would be fascinated to see this, too. Thanks for letting us know about it.

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK)
From: GUEST,Derek Schofield
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 12:41 PM

The film also included Malcolm Taylor, librarian of the Vaughan Williams Memorial Library, filmed in the library, demonstrating a phonograph and being interviewed. The final film footage of Ursula were also filmed in the Library last July - shortly before she died.
The film is indeed out on DVD. I was lucky enough to see the film at its premiere in December at the Barbican - much more impressive on the big screen! And the DVD was available afterwards.
Copies of the DVD are available for purchase from the VWML. Email [e-mail] for details.
Derek Schofield

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK)
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 01:28 PM

Does that mean - as I hope it does - that the Library will make a bit of a profit if we buy it from them rather than from the commercial website?

Quick thread-drifty question: Did Malcolm Taylor work in the library c.1972, then leave, then come back again? When I worked in C#H Barbara Newlyn was librarian, followed by a lady named Jo; and Malcolm started/returned after I was gone. Same man?

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 01:59 PM

My recollection is that Malcolm started as Assistant Librarian to replace Clive Woolf after he became ill in the mid 70s. A Librarian (whose name I can't remember) also started at about the same time to replace Dave Bland who had gone to work for Bill Leader. This chap lasted no time at all, scared off by how much work there was to do, and Malcolm achieved a rapid promotion.

There again, it was all so long ago and I might not remember them in the right order.

Re: RVW

He listened with great discomfort to a US music student while visiting a conservatoire through half an hour of dissonance then told him: If ever you hear any music, be sure to write it down.

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK)
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 02:37 PM

Ah, my brother will love that quote, Diane! He always fought with his professors who told him his compositions were too tonal.

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK Channel 5)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 02:49 PM

I'd sure like to see this. Amazon has a number of Tony Palmer films available on DVD in the U.S., but not this one. Maybe it will come out soon - looks like it came out in the UK December 5.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK Channel 5)
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 03 Jan 08 - 03:02 PM

As Derek Schofield just said above, you can buy the DVD direct from VWML.

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK Channel 5)
From: Folk Form # 1
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 05:13 AM

Oh dear, Tony Palmer. Oh well, better him than Ken Russell, I suppose.

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK Channel 5)
From: webfolk
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 05:17 AM

I bought a copy from ebay.
Waiting for it to arrive.

Geoff
www.webfolk.net

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK Channel 5)
From: mattkeen
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 07:42 AM

If you are going to buy it please consider buying thro the Library
email [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK Channel 5)
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 10:08 AM

Contact details below - if you're phoning from outside the UK, the international dialling code is 0044, which you put at the beginning but remember to drop the...

ah, hell, it's just easier to write out the damn thing! International callers ring

0044-207-485-2206 (fax similar format)

http://www.efdss.org/contact.htm

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK Channel 5)
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 10:13 AM

This is worth a look too -

http://www.efdss.org/library.htm

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK Channel 5)
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 10:48 AM

Sorry, me again: If you're phoning, London is 8 hours ahead of (later than) the west coast of the USA, and 5 hours later than the east coast.

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK Channel 5)
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 11:11 AM

Positively the LAST time and then I will go away, I promise. But I have to. It's a boo-boo alert.

UK's international dialling code is simply 44. The two zeroes are for when you're ringing from other parts of Europe (like Ireland).

Sorry *blush*

Subject: RE: Ralph Vaughan Williams (UK Channel 5)
From: r.padgett
Date: 04 Jan 08 - 11:18 AM

Well done Bonnie!

Plenty to go at now

Ray