BS: The Peace sign

Subject: BS: The Peace sign
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 12:48 PM

No one has ever brand named or copywrited it.

whats up with that

A green car maker might be afraid Mercedes would sue them?
Is an organic food distrubutor afraid they would lose staunch republican buyers?

Mudcat should buy the copywrite today.

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Wesley S
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 12:49 PM

Peace - Bruce - already owns it. Why do you think he's so rich??

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 12:53 PM

No really I heard this on radio yesterday.
by know I bet someone has snapped it up.

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Emma B
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 12:57 PM

I think this one is still available.

Peace
'Em'

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: bobad
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 01:06 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Peace
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 01:12 PM

Hey, that's cool. I can figure out how you drew the plane, but how'd you do the circle around it?

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: gnu
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 01:15 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Emma B
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 01:29 PM

Darn! think I needed a bigger circle :)

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: GUEST,Peace of cake.
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 01:39 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 02:29 PM

new one for me! ☮
but it seems many others are available

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Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 02:33 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 02:34 PM

Now...I just have to figger out where these are stored, defined and listed in a chart!

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: john f weldon
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 02:43 PM

The one yr talking about, according to my memory, was designed by Bertrand Russell's Committee for Nuclear Disarmament back in the sixties. Whether they were clever enough to protect it, I know not.

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 03:29 PM

Who ya gonna call....

Nuke Busters!

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 03:35 PM

I don't think you could register the peace sign as a trademark today, since it's already so popular.

Existing trademarks have been lost because of popular usage. See List of generic and genericized trademarks at Wikipedia.

But then, I'm only reasoning by analogy here, assuming the law applies to symbols in the same way it applies to verbal trademarks like "Coke".

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 04:21 PM

I've always understood the peace sign was a combination of the semaphore letters N (for Nuclear) & D (for Disarmament). Another account has it that the original symbol was an encircled Christian cross, the arms being 'dropped' when the Anglican Church objected.

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: bobad
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 05:02 PM

From Wikipedia

"This forked symbol was designed for the Direct Action Committee Against Nuclear War (DAC) and was adopted as its badge by the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND) in Britain, and originally was used by the British nuclear disarmament movement. It was later generalised to become an international icon for the 1960s anti-war movement, and was also adopted by the counterculture of the time. It was designed and completed February 21, 1958 by Gerald Holtom, a professional designer and artist in Britain for the April 4 march planned by DAC from Trafalgar Square, London to the Atomic Weapons Research Establishment at Aldermaston in England[4].


The symbol itself is a combination of the semaphoric signals for the letters "N" and "D," standing for Nuclear Disarmament. In semaphore the letter "N" is formed by a person holding two flags in an upside-down "V," and the letter "D" is formed by holding one flag pointed straight up and the other pointed straight down. These two signals imposed over each other form the shape of the peace symbol. In the original design the lines widened at the edge of the circle.[5]


A conscientious objector who had worked on a farm in Norfolk during the Second World War, Holtom later wrote to Hugh Brock, editor of Peace News, explaining the genesis of his idea in greater depth: "I was in despair. Deep despair. I drew myself: the representative of an individual in despair, with hands palm outstretched outwards and downwards in the manner of Goya's peasant before a firing squad. I formalised the drawing into a line and put a circle round it."

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Peace
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 05:05 PM

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Bill, you have just invited aliens to invade Earth. ARE YOU CRAZY?

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 05:19 PM

No, no! They only monitor messages in Klingon

They follow 'em Here

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 09 Apr 08 - 08:07 PM

back in the late 70's a friend was teaching a toddler to make the peace sign.

After a bit of practice the lad showed off his new skill to his father - unfortunately he reversed his hand while waving it around as he was excitedly saying "Piss, Daddy, piss"

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: gnomad
Date: 10 Apr 08 - 07:18 AM

Which leads neatly to the (false, of course) origin of the sign circulating when I was a kid: that the sign was modelled on mens Y-front underwear...the kind that prevents fall-out.

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: kendall
Date: 10 Apr 08 - 07:48 AM

Years ago there was a sign that pictured the peace sign and the caption, "FOOTPRINT OF THE AMERICAN CHICKEN"

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Amos
Date: 20 Dec 08 - 04:22 PM

Then there's Old Fat Naked Women For Peace, well worth thinking about.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: GUEST,Frogprince, in cold, cold Wisconsin
Date: 21 Dec 08 - 11:34 AM

The sign has also been characterized as satanic, as it is "an upside down, broken, cross", supposedly deliberately designed as anti-Christian.

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: bobad
Date: 21 Dec 08 - 12:07 PM

Sigh.........if you would have read the previous posts Froggy, you would have seen that this satanic symbolism stuff is a bunch of fundie nonsense, no doubt cooked up by religious zealots to foster the righteous vs. the unsaved dichotomy they employ in order to maintain their flock safely penned.

"It was designed and completed February 21, 1958 by Gerald Holtom, a professional designer and artist in Britain for the April 4 march planned by DAC from Trafalgar Square, London to the Atomic Weapons Research Establishment at Aldermaston in England


A conscientious objector who had worked on a farm in Norfolk during the Second World War, Holtom later wrote to Hugh Brock, editor of Peace News, explaining the genesis of his idea in greater depth: "I was in despair. Deep despair. I drew myself: the representative of an individual in despair, with hands palm outstretched outwards and downwards in the manner of Goya's Peasant Before A Firing Squad. I formalised the drawing into a line and put a circle round it."

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: GUEST,Frogprince, in cold, cold Wisconsin
Date: 21 Dec 08 - 09:19 PM

Bobad, I'm sorry if I left the impression that I gave any credit to that interpretation of the peace sign; I don't, and I didn't think anyone here would

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: number 6
Date: 21 Dec 08 - 09:38 PM

I thought the peace sign was derived from the artist Frida Kahlo's peace dove ... specifically the dove she designed for a banner she carried in a demonstration im Mexico City in 1954 against the CIA organized military coup that overthrew the elected government of Guatemala.

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Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: number 6
Date: 21 Dec 08 - 09:57 PM

here is a picture of it ... if anyone is interested ...

Frida Kahlo peace dove

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: GUEST,Allan s.
Date: 22 Dec 08 - 06:35 PM

What is the differance between the V for victory sign in ww2 Palm IN AND palm OUT   If I am correct one was for victory and the other up yours?? or F--K you    I seem to remember it being used by Churchill..