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Bobert 07 Jun 08 - 07:45 AM
kendall 07 Jun 08 - 07:50 AM
bobad 07 Jun 08 - 08:07 AM
jacqui.c 07 Jun 08 - 08:12 AM
Bee-dubya-ell 07 Jun 08 - 08:21 AM
Riginslinger 07 Jun 08 - 08:36 AM
McGrath of Harlow 07 Jun 08 - 09:19 AM
Rapparee 07 Jun 08 - 09:24 AM
Willie-O 07 Jun 08 - 09:25 AM
Rapparee 07 Jun 08 - 09:27 AM
McGrath of Harlow 07 Jun 08 - 09:38 AM
Rapparee 07 Jun 08 - 09:55 AM
bobad 07 Jun 08 - 10:34 AM
Amos 07 Jun 08 - 10:36 AM
GUEST,Mrs Olive Whatnoll 07 Jun 08 - 11:13 AM
meself 07 Jun 08 - 12:14 PM
bankley 07 Jun 08 - 12:42 PM
Little Hawk 07 Jun 08 - 02:10 PM
McGrath of Harlow 07 Jun 08 - 02:14 PM
bankley 07 Jun 08 - 02:54 PM
Jeri 07 Jun 08 - 02:56 PM
heric 07 Jun 08 - 03:11 PM
heric 07 Jun 08 - 03:15 PM
Little Hawk 07 Jun 08 - 03:28 PM
Rapparee 07 Jun 08 - 04:24 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 07 Jun 08 - 04:27 PM
GUEST,Zach 07 Jun 08 - 04:30 PM
Melissa 07 Jun 08 - 04:38 PM
Joe Offer 07 Jun 08 - 04:55 PM
Peace 07 Jun 08 - 04:59 PM
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heric 07 Jun 08 - 05:08 PM
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Peace 07 Jun 08 - 05:31 PM
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Little Hawk 07 Jun 08 - 11:49 PM
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akenaton 08 Jun 08 - 04:50 AM
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bankley 08 Jun 08 - 08:35 AM
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Subject: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 07:45 AM

Well, seems there are a few folks here who have no interest in discussing policies and issue of the presdential race but are merely intent on smearing Barak Obama personally so...

...here's you thread, folks...

Have it it!!!

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: kendall
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 07:50 AM

He's half white.


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From: bobad
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 08:07 AM

And educated.


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From: jacqui.c
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 08:12 AM

He's a lawyer.


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From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 08:21 AM

His ears are big enough to land him the starring role in a stage production of "Dumbo".


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 08:36 AM

He's mastered the Ronald Reagan head bobble.


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From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 09:19 AM

He's uppity


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From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 09:24 AM

He "talked" with Hillary.


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From: Willie-O
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 09:25 AM

I hear he's American.

Just saying...

W-O


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 09:27 AM

He can't play the banjo worth shucks.


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From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 09:38 AM

His bowling leaves much to be desired.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 09:55 AM

Can't play the saxophone, either, I betcha.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: bobad
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 10:34 AM

Barack HUSSEIN Obama


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 10:36 AM

KNows too much for his own good.

And those speeches? WAY above his station.

Wants to change things, always a suspect indication.

Too fast on his feet, and has big white ideas all the time.



A


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: GUEST,Mrs Olive Whatnoll
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 11:13 AM

Wot's "Obama" then? Is it some kind of spread loik vegemite wot you Americans smear on toast? Wot good would it do for the loiks of me to smear it 'ere on some stupid Mudcat 'fread? If I carn't 'ave some Obama of me own to smear on me toast I'm not bloody well interested.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: meself
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 12:14 PM

O-BOMB-a? Oh, bomb a - what?


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: bankley
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 12:42 PM

Dylan likes him


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 02:10 PM

I bet he likes Dylan too.

Joan Baez also likes him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 02:14 PM

Move the letters of bus name around and you get "Bakes Marihuana Cobs"

"Cob" is a name for a bread roll in parts of England. So the man's clearly not just a stoner, but a Limey stoner...


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: bankley
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 02:54 PM

"Joan Baez also likes him "    who, Dylan ?



waiting for Tommy Chong with the Obama Bong


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 02:56 PM

You might wait long...


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From: heric
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 03:11 PM

He uses persuasive language AND SO DOES THE ANTI-CHRIST.


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From: heric
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 03:15 PM

He has San Francisco values and he buys arugula at Whole Foods.


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 03:28 PM

So do I! ;-) The arugula, I mean.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 04:24 PM

He's visited and even LIVED in countries other than the good old US of A!


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 04:27 PM

I just popped over from the other thread I was on, to read these, laughed my ass off! You guys are alright!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: GUEST,Zach
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 04:30 PM

He is a sound guy, but there is still one barrier between him and the Oval office and it's a centuries old problem.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Melissa
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 04:38 PM

spot on, Zach. He seems like a pretty good guy, but he certainly doesn't Know His Place.

For example, I keep hearing how the small towns/rural folk detest him..yet, I've only seen three political bumperstickers in my area. Every one of them favoring Obama.

Hmmph!


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 04:55 PM

Somebody found this (click) on the Internet, detailing fifty ways Obama is a liar. If it's on the Internet, it must be true - right?

Oh, and somebody else sent me an e-mail of this (click), which proves beyond a doubt from the Internet and the Book of Revelation that Barack Hussein Obama is the Anti-Christ!

It's a good thing Al Gore invented the Internet to tell us the truth about things like this!!!!!


-Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 04:59 PM

He's better lookin' than me.


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From: Peace
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 05:01 PM

Come to think of it, my dog was better lookin' than me.


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From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 05:06 PM

He doesn't have a dog!


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: heric
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 05:08 PM

Peace, I can say in all honesty that you are better looking than Obama's dog. I'll see if I can come up with more.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 05:11 PM

I think that depends on the point of view, there Heric. From down where dogs stand, Obama's dog wins paws down.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 05:11 PM

Ah ... a smear test eh ...

is that cuz he's hoping to be a public cervix-dude ...

He's better looking than peaces dog!


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: heric
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 05:14 PM

He married a lawyer.


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From: GUEST,Cruiser
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 05:15 PM

An uppity half-a** half-Black is wusser than them uppity half-a** full-bred white folks is...


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 05:19 PM

errr ...

hmmm ...

I ... um ...

... interesting ...

Whaddaya think Joe Offer?


    Let's hope that was just an attempted joke that didn't work....
    -Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: heric
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 05:25 PM

I bet you're sorry you started this now, Bobert. Anyone can print this out and mail it to the Mc527's. Way to go, sachmo.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 05:31 PM

Yeah, but I am talking UGly. How ugly? That dog was so ugly I had to hang a pork chop around his neck so the other dogs would play with him.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 05:33 PM

So how did you get other kids to play with you?


... I don't wanna know!!!!!!!!! ....


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 05:34 PM

Hang on ...

... now I know why you need the jujubes ...

____________________________________________


Seriously, I'm a bit concerned about that "cruiser post" ... not seeing the joke ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: GUEST,Cruiser
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 05:39 PM

It is called parody.

I am a white, life-long Republican who is an Obama supporter and who is criticizing ignorant, stupid white folks!


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 05:44 PM

Don't mention jujubes. Some idiot(s) though it was spam and complained about it. My new thing is pizza, so for the spam police, be advised.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: frogprince
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 05:52 PM

I might vote for him, if he would just come clean and admit that he's really an Islamic terrorist...


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 05:54 PM

And he does shady real estate deals--well, not HIM actually, but someone he knew years ago and you know what they say about guilt by association . . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 05:58 PM

ANd he was known once to actually look at a person who had been part of the Communist-Jihad Alliance. He didn't know it at the time, but he did look at him, because they were making crossing left turns at an intersection in Chicago. He has never denied it, either, you notice!!!

And he's been living in the SAME CITY as several known terrorists for twenty years. TWENTY YEARS!!! And I'll bet he'll say he didn't know about them. Riiiight. Twenty years, and not know about them??? I don't THINK soooo.



A


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Peace
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 06:11 PM

He is a POLITICIAN! Need more be said?


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From: Peace
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 06:23 PM

OK. That last one wasn't fair. Sorry.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Amos
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 07:39 PM

The image of one of those circular steel spring-traps with teeth around the edges that are used for catching bears, raccoons, and such on forest trails comes to mind.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 07:55 PM

Now, now, now, Fantz... This is my thread and it ain't for smearin' Obama supporters but Obama himself... Don't make me ask Joe to send you to yer room, now...

Awww, jus funnin'... If you wanta smear Obama's supporters then as the creater of this thread you jus have at it... You tell Joe I said it is okay in my book...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 11:07 PM

He's a fast talker with expensive suits.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jun 08 - 11:49 PM

He smiles too much! You can't trust people who smile all the time. I want Nixon back, shaking his jowls and scowling. ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Amos
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 12:13 AM

Well, if it is any comfort, Fantz, I don't fear you OR Joe. So there.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 04:50 AM

Why are all guest Fantasma's posts being deleted?
The members seem to respond to them fairly well while they are on the board.

Joe, I think you taking this too far, we are not children!
    Agreed, but I'm not doing the deleting. Must be a Rogue Clone.
    -Joe-


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 05:48 AM

What's that peace?

You used spam?

You should've given your dog the spam and kept the porkchops for yourself!


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 06:25 AM

I'd like you a whole lot more if only I thought you had some pork chops.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 06:36 AM

Hey ... you haven't been smearing Obama with Spam have you?


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: bankley
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 08:35 AM

even if he sneaks around about it and is married, Obama enjoys the occasional fag...










(cigarette, that is)


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 09:44 AM

As far as I know, Obama has not claimed to have had direct contact with beings from another planet. The fact that such beings find him unworthy of contact automatically makes him unworthy of being President.

On the other hand, if he did claim to have had direct contact with beings from another planet he'd be a whacked out nut case and, therefore, unworthy of being President.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: heric
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 09:52 AM

He's mever admitted to being attacked by a rabbit, hitting someone in the head with a golfball, smashing his head when extiting an airplane, or throwing up at a State dinner -- which means he is entirely lacking in the requiste entertainment value expected of a President.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: heric
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 10:01 AM

He can't even say nuculur -- a subtle but revealing indicator that he's not as American as he should be.


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From: bankley
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 11:05 AM

is conspiring with Billy Bob Thornton and Randy Owen to start a Southern Roots/Country band called Alobama, which will just be a front for pure Yankee "Barack and Roll"



but he's better with a mic than Billy Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Peace
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 01:05 PM

There it is, Lox. This will be very sublime, so STAY WITH ME!

Spam pizza.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 01:34 PM

He's never called and asked me for MY opinion on anything.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: bankley
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 02:05 PM

well, what do you expect from someone whose name ends with a vowel ?








then there was Kennedy, but they only used a part-time vowel...

and SPAM is MAPS spelled backwards.... a conspiracy brewing...


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 02:50 PM

More Spam is consumed, per capita, in Hawaii than anyplace else in the U.S. Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

I'll say no more lest I be labeled some sort of whacko conspiracy theorist. You may draw your own conclusions.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Peace
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 03:06 PM

I seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: autolycus
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 04:04 PM

He's not b;lack; he's not white; have another go.

Unfortunately, he's a human being. No human being is going to get a universal thumbs-up, solved OUR problems, be G-d.

The hunt for an error-free-politician is as useful as for an error-free person.

Yours humorously ot humour-free, depending

Ivor


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Azizi
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 05:00 PM

It amazes me that some people are still going on about Barack Obama's racial identity. "He's not b;lack [sic]; he's not white; have another go".??!!

Obama's not Black?! Says who?? Surely not Barack Obama.

I consider Kendall's comment that "he's [Baracka Obama]half white" to be interesting phrasing since for a long time in the United States an individual was either considered to be all White, or not White at all. Racially mixed people with Black/White ancestry were called "half Black" but never "half White". Perhaps that custom is changing.

But the only reason why Obama and other Black Americans who have one Black birth parent and one White birth parent aren't considered White is because of the United States' racist one drop of "black blood" rule.

Actually, in a sane world Barack Obama would be considered to be Black and he would also be considered to be White. Not that his racial identity or anyone else's racial identity would matter in a sane world.

However, the fact of the matter is that according to the way the USA socially defines racial identity at this time Barack Obama is Black. And Barack Obama's election as the Democratic party's nominee for President is a historical occurance for African Americans and for all other Americans.

And when, God willing, Senator Barack Obama is elected President of the USA, he won't be the Black President or the White President or the half-white President. When he wins this election, Barack Obama won't be or the half-black President or the racially mixed President. BHe will be the President of the United States of America.

Barack Obama will be the President of all of the people in the United States equally regardless of our race, ethnicity, gender, sexually orientation, income, age, and/or our religion or our lack of religion.

Some people may not be ready for a new day, but a change is still gonna come.


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From: akenaton
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 05:11 PM

Don't hold your breath.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 05:25 PM

The man's got a beard like a commie Cuban - it's just that he conceals it by shaving every day.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: autolycus
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 06:01 PM

Azizi

I'd prefer to just talk of candidates, not red, yellow or green ot aNy other colour ones.


I was just making a small amendment.

It's different in the US, I gather, but here in the UK, we used to use the phrase 'mixed race' for someone with mixed parentage.

Actually, we're all 'mixed race', and cousins of each other.

These are guerilla tactics in this questionable thread.

Still a humourous, therapist-cum-philosopher-cum-Spurs supporter-cum-left/hander-cum-book collector - cum- occasional Guardian reader - cum - supporter of the BBC would say that, wouldn't I?

Should we have threads to smear posters? Course not.

   Ivor


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: EBarnacle
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 07:59 PM

He's a politician who wants to change the world and become a statesman.


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From: Amos
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 08:10 PM

I think Obama's election to the WHite House is going to make an important, fundamental change in the future track of this country and, indirectly, of the world.

It will be interesting times, that much is for sure.

The convergence of upcoming technical advances and a re-balancing of the economy with a stronger basic bloc and less emphasis on hyperactivity and derivatives, instead of basic productivity, will gradually restore strength tot he economy and between these two vectors and his sense of perspective, I think some positive things will appear.

A


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From: Peace
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 08:13 PM

I think he'll do a great job despite being a bit weak on foreign policy, not that the present president is an example to follow. IMO, no place for the US to go but up.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 08:14 PM

Mixed parentage is the general pattern in most places. A mother and a father.
..........................

You'll note Obama has never denied that he is a vampire.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 08:27 PM

Bad Amos and Peace...

This is the official "Obama Smear" thread... Stay on topic, please... There are plenty other threads about Barak's talents and all that... And I support Obama but...

... we do have to keep this thread pure fir the knotheads... Know what I mean???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: heric
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 08:39 PM

Thank you, Norbert.

Obama went to Pakistan.


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From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 08:46 PM

While there, he may have talked to the American ambassador.


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From: bobad
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 09:00 PM

HAD A PET APE AS A CHILD: Obama lived in Indonesia for nearly five years as a child and had a pet ape named Tata. He also sampled exotic foods — dog, snake and grasshopper.


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From: bobad
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 09:03 PM

According to Barack Obama in an interview on 1/18/2008 his favorite food is from Italian Fiesta Pizzeria in Hyde Park, Chicago, IL.

We know what that means, don't we - FUGGETABOUTIT!


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Ed T
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 09:33 PM

If he's never been to a Tim Horton's, how can he expect to get the Canadian vote? He did not capture a single Canadian delegate (or even a super delegate) during the primaries.

McCain's subliminal association with frozen french fries could help him at the Canadian ballot boxes during election time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: autolycus
Date: 09 Jun 08 - 01:50 AM

WHY CANNOT KNOTHEADS START THEIR OWN THREADS?

Oh.

because they're knotheads (whatever that is)?


Ivor


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Stringsinger
Date: 09 Jun 08 - 05:21 PM

He has stated and I paraphrase, "Religion should not be left out of the public arena".
Sounds like an intent to fuse Church and State. I don't think Obama likes non-believers.


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From: Riginslinger
Date: 09 Jun 08 - 05:24 PM

Hear hear!


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From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Jun 08 - 06:31 PM

"I don't think Obama likes non-believers".

That's quite a leap from the little that we know. Unless your hypothesis is that he really didn't care for or respect his mother.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Amos
Date: 09 Jun 08 - 06:52 PM

I'd like to see the actual quote, as I haven't seen it. In its correct context I think the chances are good your paraphrase is an alteration.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 09 Jun 08 - 08:36 PM

"religion should not be left out of the public arena"

to leave any individual or group out of the public arena is undemocratic and descriminatory.

Democracy is inclusive by it's very nature.

I'm not religious but I believe every point of view has the right to be represented.

I condemn any attempt to exclude any group or individual from the democratic process.

Stringsinger and Riginslinger, it is interesting how such purportedly progressive and modern viewpoints as yours turn out on closer examination to be merely reactonary and politically backward.

Clutching at straws ... bitter twisted and sad.

Thankfully you represent a fading era.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: heric
Date: 09 Jun 08 - 09:08 PM

A mystery is developing, arising from on obscured and contentious factual assertions. Looks like a job for heric

This appears to be a reference to a speech by Obama June, 2006 at a conference sponsored by progressive evangelicals. He apparently said (again paraphrased):


"Obama's three points were presented as 'some truths' or 'ground rules' fostering civility and effective political compromise in the public arena of a democracy.

1. Leaders must understand and appreciate the critically important role that the separation of church and state 'has played in preserving not only our democracy, but the robustness of our religious practice.'

2. When the religiously motivated attempt to influence public policy they must be prepared to argue from universal, rational values and insights that are open to debate. Obama's point is quite clear and very specific – 'I may be opposed to abortion for religious reasons, but if I seek to pass a law banning the practice, I cannot simply point to the teachings of my church or evoke God's will. I have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths, including those with no faith at all.'

3. Harmonious interactions between religiously motivated public political activity and the multiple realities of democratic pluralism require what Obama calls a 'sense of proportion.' He argues that not every public citing of God is a breach in the divide between church and state. His advice is a cautionary word to those who react with indignant outrage at the use of school property by voluntary student prayer groups or the recital of the Pledge of Allegiance phrase 'under God.' The coercive impact of such events and phrases Obama suggests need to be seen in context and proportion.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 09 Jun 08 - 10:29 PM

There also seem to be some who are trying to muddle the clear differences between Obama and McCain on the separation of church and state.

McCain said (9-2007) "the Constitution established the United States of America as a Christian nation". When immigrants come here "they know they are in a nation founded on Christian principles".

Source: Pew Center

Obama's views are rather different, as indicated already in this thread.

Anybody thinking of not supporting Obama should research further what McCain believes on this issue.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 09 Jun 08 - 11:05 PM

Well, of course, a guy could not support Obama, and not support McCain at the same time. There are other candidates out there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Jun 08 - 11:29 PM

That's right. Chongo, for instance.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Jun 08 - 07:41 PM

Back to smears. Shakespeare might have been describing him:

Yon Cassius has a lean and hungry look.
He thinks too much. Such men are dangerous...


And the elitist Obama would recognise that quote too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Mrrzy
Date: 10 Jun 08 - 08:22 PM

Thread title sounded a little kinky to meee...


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From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Jun 08 - 08:47 PM

Mrrzy! lol


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From: DannyC
Date: 11 Jun 08 - 04:14 PM

** WARNING **   AMERICAN DOMINIONIST-FASCIST CONTENT ***

Here's a posting I received here in America's Heartland... as you will see, the dull-wits known as the American Right are getting organized. You might also note that it is rabies season in these parts. I send this without edits of any kind.   I would like to publicly thank the idiot who had forwarded the message to me:

If our nation elects Obama as president - we had better buckle our seat belts - the ride is going to be rough! This will be a time when we, as Christians, need to be/become vocal or else we will get what we deserve. Bill Brown, is a highly respected retired member of the Billy Graham team. So, I take his assessment of Obama very seriously and for that reason accept his challenge to pass this on. I share his concern about the 'rock star' image Obama has and watch with growing concern at the celebrity status the media has foisted upon him. Here is hope this email informs you in a wise way. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We are witnessing a political phenomenon with Barack Obama of rare magnitude. His speeches have inspired millions and yet most of his followers have no idea of what he stands for except platitudes of 'Change' or that he says he will be a 'Uniteder'. The power of speech from a charismatic person truly can be a powerful thing. Certainly Billy Graham had charisma and both his manner of speech and particularly the content changed millions. On the extreme other hand, the charisma of Adolph Hitler inspired millions and the results were catastrophic. Barack Obama certainly is no Hitler or a Billy Graham, but for many Americans out there feeling just like a surfer who might be ecstatic and euphoric while riding a tidal wave, the real story is what happens when it hits shore . Just Some of What Defines Barack Obama:
· He voted against banning partial birth abortion.
· He voted no on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions.
· Supports affirmative action in Colleges and Government.
· In 2001 he questioned harsh penalties for drug dealing.
· Says he will deal with street level drug dealing as minimum wage affair.
· Admitted marijuana and cocaine use in high school and in college.
· His religious convictions are very murky.
· He is willing to meet with Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jung Il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
· Has said that one of his first goals after being elected would be to have a conference with all Muslim nations.
· Opposed the Patriot Act.
· First bill he signed that was passed was campaign finance reform.
· Voted No on prohibiting law suits against gun manufacturers.
· Supports universal health-care.
· Voted yes on providing habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees.
· Supports granting driver's license to illegal immigrants.
· Supports extending welfare to illegal immigrants.
· Voted yes on comprehensive immigration reform.
· Voted yes on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security.
· Wants to make the minimum wage a 'living wage'.
· Voted with Democratic Party 96 percent of 251 votes.
· Is a big believer in the separation of church and state.
· Opposed to any efforts to Privatize Social Security and instead supports increasing the amount of tax paid.
· He voted No on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax.
· He voted No on repealing the 'Death' Tax.
· He wants to raise the Capital Gains Tax.
· Has repeatedly said the surge in Iraq has not succeeded....
· He is ranked as the most liberal Senator in the Senate today and that takes some doing. If your political choices are consistent with Barack Obama's and you think that his positions will bring America together or make it a better place, then you will probably enjoy the ride and not forward this Email. If you are like most Americans that after examining what he stands for, are truly not in line with his record, it would be prudent to get off the wave or better yet, never get on, before it comes on shore and undermines the very foundations of this great Country. We have limited time to save America or the Supreme Court as we know it. Inaction is action. If you agree this is important, pass it on. The mainstream media will not do it for you! Bill Brown MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 11 Jun 08 - 09:48 PM

Re: supporting neither Obama nor McCain. "There are other candidates". For somebody in denial, yes.

Anybody who does not back what McCain stands for has only one choice: Obama. Otherwise he or she is likely to see President McCain. If that's fine with you, great. But in that case let's have no whining about what President McCain does--and that he will act on his belief that the US was founded as a Christian nation, and appoint Supreme Court justices who also believe this.   And he will continue the Iraq war til "victory". Etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 11 Jun 08 - 09:57 PM

It's probably reasonable to assume that a voter who finds himself/herself voting for a third party candidate will discover there is a counter vote out there for some other third party candidate, so it doesn't follow that if you are not voting for one of the major party candidates, you are casting a vote for McCain.

                  Myself, for instance, I'm registered "Green." If I vote for the Green Party candidate, somebody else will vote for the Libertarian candidate. We can both take comfort in the fact that neither one of us did anything to advance the insanity that the two major parties are trying so desperately to impose on the American people.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 11 Jun 08 - 10:06 PM

In a close election, as many recently have been, a minor candidate can easily make the difference. Perhaps people have forgotten the 2000 election.

The only way to prevent a similar event is to vote for the major party candidate who reflects your positions more than the other major party candidate.   It ain't rocket science--except to those in denial.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Jun 08 - 09:06 AM

The other way of course is to arrange some kind of vote-twinning.

So if you like Obama but live in some state where it is inconceivable that he could win, you get in touch with someone in a swing state who prefers Obama to McCain, but who fancies registering a vote for Nader. And you agree that they vote for Obama, and you vote for Nader.

You could do it via the Mudcat with someone with whom you've been arguing about these things. Of course you'd need to trust each other, but what's wrong with that?


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: GUEST,CrazyEddie
Date: 12 Jun 08 - 09:27 AM

Danny C, Thanks for posting that message from Bill Brown.
I admit, I had my doubts about Obama, but seeing how he voted on all those issues has convinced me he's the right man for the job.

Now, if only I had a vote....


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: DannyC
Date: 12 Jun 08 - 12:43 PM

< Danny C, Thanks for posting that message from Bill Brown.
I admit, I had my doubts about Obama, but seeing how he voted on all those issues has convinced me he's the right man for the job.>>


Yo Crazy Eddie --- precisely...


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From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Jun 08 - 03:13 PM

Thanks, Ebbie!


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 12 Jun 08 - 07:48 PM

These are the bad things!


· Supports granting driver's license to illegal immigrants.
· Supports extending welfare to illegal immigrants.
· Voted yes on comprehensive immigration reform.
· Supports affirmative action in Colleges and Government.
· His religious convictions are very murky.
· Voted No on prohibiting law suits against gun manufacturers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Jun 08 - 07:54 PM

Those are bad things?


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From: Riginslinger
Date: 12 Jun 08 - 09:57 PM

Terrible!


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: DannyC
Date: 12 Jun 08 - 10:04 PM

As with all phobias, a xenophobic person is aware of the fear, and therefore has to genuinely think or believe at some level that the target is in fact a foreigner. This arguably separates xenophobia from racism and ordinary prejudice in that someone of a different race does not necessarily have to be of a different nationality. In various contexts, the terms "xenophobia" and "racism" seem to be used interchangeably, though they can have wholly different meanings (xenophobia can be based on various aspects, racism being based solely on race and ancestry).

For xenophobia there are two main objects of the phobia. The first is a population group present within a society that is not considered part of that society. Often they are recent immigrants, but xenophobia may be directed against a group which has been present for centuries. This form of xenophobia can elicit or facilitate hostile and violent reactions, such as mass expulsion of immigrants, or in the worst case, genocide.

The second form of xenophobia is primarily cultural, and the objects of the phobia are cultural elements which are considered alien. All cultures are subject to external influences, but cultural xenophobia is often narrowly directed, for instance at foreign loan words in a national language. It rarely leads to aggression against individual persons, but can result in political campaigns for cultural or linguistic purification. Isolationism, a general aversion of foreign affairs, is not accurately described as xenophobia.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 12 Jun 08 - 11:58 PM

Of course the problem here is world wide human population growth, and the part that migration plays into it.


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From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 13 Jun 08 - 01:11 AM

He's really not very nice to lobbyists.


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From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Jun 08 - 07:52 AM

I think the distinction between racism and xenophobia is quite important.   One way and another a degree of xenophobia - fear of, or suspicion towards outsiders - is something that crops up in all kinds of times and places, and it's probably true to see it as natural enough.

Racism is something else. The focus for racists isn't strangers and outsiders, it's liable to be neighbours picked out on the basis of some insignificant physical difference, who may well be essentially indistingishable in other ways. It's based on a perverted pseudo-science, and on manipulation. There is nothing natural about it.


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From: artbrooks
Date: 13 Jun 08 - 08:46 AM

A driver's license is proof, one hopes, that the possessor knows how to physically operate a motor vehicle and has passed a very simple written test on driving regulations. It is not, and should never be, proof of citizenship or the legal right to be in the US. There are other documents for that. If supporting granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants is a bad thing, than one assumes that the opponents of this proposal are ok with them being out on the road unlicensed? Having been rear-ended a couple of years ago by a lady who had no license, no vehicle registration, no proof of insurance and who no habla ingles, somehow I think that is a bad idea.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jun 08 - 09:50 AM

Smear Obama Here... Barak Butter :


smear some on toast. ITs made of ground sun flower seeds, walnuts, cashews and spices. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm good


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Jun 08 - 09:57 AM

That would surely depend on what spice was used and in what quantity...


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From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Jun 08 - 10:43 AM

My apologies if this has already been posted: Fight the Smear.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 13 Jun 08 - 10:31 PM

I went there but I couldn't enter. Before you can enter the sire you have to give them an e-mail address and your zip code. I didn't enter. My first thoughts were, "This is somebody not to trust."


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: artbrooks
Date: 13 Jun 08 - 10:42 PM

A very interesting site, and there is no requirement to enter either an e-mail address or a zip code. One is invited to do so, but need not to view the site's content.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Jun 08 - 10:45 PM

Thank you, Art.

Rigin...I don't know what you're on about unless you're adding to the nefarious smearing!? You do not have to sign up or anything, as Art has said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Willie-O
Date: 13 Jun 08 - 11:29 PM

· Wants to make the minimum wage a 'living wage'.
· Voted with Democratic Party 96 percent of 251 votes.
· Is a big believer in the separation of church and state.


Ummmm....clearly a dangerous character. And I'm stunned that he so often sides with the Democrats! I bet he might be one himself...wouldn't surprise me one bit.

W-O

BTW there was a minor Canadian political scandal a few months ago tied to Obama. It was leaked to the press that "his people" contacted certain Canadian officials to assure them, quietly, that if he was talking tough about Canada, it was just talk.

The leak was, if you heard about it, supposed to damage Obama's credibility. With the people who might vote for him. (A significant number of whom also hold Canadian citizenship, if they could only figure out the rules for expatriate Americans voting).

Funnily enough, the leak was traced to our Conservative Prime Ministers chief of staff, one Ian Brody, who has suddenly resigned, feeling that age-old urge to see his family more often.

This isn't really a smear since it appears to be settled as an even split...minus one for Obama, minus one for Harper.

W-O


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 14 Jun 08 - 12:25 AM

"Rigin...I don't know what you're on about unless you're adding to the nefarious smearing!? You do not have to sign up or anything, as Art has said."


                     The site I went to didn't let me access anything unless I gave up that information. Maybe I went to the wrong place. I'll double check.


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Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Jun 08 - 07:45 AM

Click on the link kat gave. Then try moving your cursor over the underlined blue bits which say "continue reading" and left clicking...


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