Spiers and Boden

Subject: Spiers and Boden
From: GUEST,bfc
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 10:45 AM

My mate plays fiddle in a local duo. They were delighted to be asked by the organiser of a concert to be the support for Spiers and Boden. Their joy was short-lived - apparently S&B would not appear with another duo which had a fiddle player. So much for the spirit of folk music, lads......

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 10:54 AM

I had Tom Kitching and Gren Bartley opening the first concert of Loughborough Folk Festival 2006. Also on the bill were Spiers and Boden. There were no complaints.

Just saying.

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: GUEST,Dazbo at work
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 11:01 AM

Perhaps they though there was too much similarity? As much as I love S&B I'd probably avoid a support act that were too similar.

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: TheSnail
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 11:08 AM

Please note that this is GUEST,bfc's only post to Mudcat. I would suggest a little caution before leaping to any judgements.

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 11:33 AM

Not knowing any of the particulars, if it even happened at all, but my guess would be similar to Dazbo's.

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: GUEST,bfc
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 11:44 AM

What IS the Snail implying? Does it matter if it's the first or fifty-first post?

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: greg stephens
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 11:52 AM

Possibly the implication was to be wary of a pseudonymous vistor whose first post is a leeeeetle bit tendentious?

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: TheSnail
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 12:00 PM

'bout covers it.

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: Stu
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 01:18 PM

"I had Tom Kitching and Gren Bartley opening the first concert of Loughborough Folk Festival 2006. Also on the bill were Spiers and Boden. There were no complaints."

Tom's an excellent player too, so I can't see some sort of professional jealousy as the problem.

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 01:37 PM

Thoughtful of Mr TheSnail to warn us about pseudonymous posters. I hadn't realised they were persona non grata at Mudcat.

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: Cllr
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 02:12 PM

As someone who has booked acts, on and off for over ten yrs I wouldnt book a similar support act to the main act- not fair on either artist IMHO or the audiance for that matter.

That, I, think is pretty straight forward.

PS possible exeption themed night ie fiddles on fire or melodeons in meltdown,bodhrons on a bonfire or banjos on a barbecue

NB the last two are not a themed musical evening suggestion just a suggestion


Cllr

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: Cllr
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 02:16 PM

ROFLMAO

just realised this is completly bogus... (like S & B have ever refused to play with Show of hands) damn trust me to feed the trolls.

I'll get my coat- I'm so out of here

Cllr

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 02:23 PM

Just because there are two duos which include fiddle, that's not to say they acts are similar. My earlier example is a good case in point: Tom on fiddle, Gren on guitar, very mellow vocals, a lot of American material. Very different from what Spiers and Boden do. Which is why I was happy to include them on a concert bill which also included Coope Boyes and Simpson and Seth Lakeman.

Seth plays the fiddle too. Still no one complained. :)

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 03:07 PM

Troll nonsense.

These threads would stink less of bullshit if the originators had the bollocks to be explicit about the point they were trying (and failing) to make, rather than talking in riddles.

Yes, Guest bfc. That's a challenge.

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 03:17 PM

Just a chav swiping pointlessly at tall poppies.
And with Spiers & Boden, I do mean TALL.
And as if they would ever refuse to play with anybody (except the BNP obviously).
They'll play with anybody, anywhere, just for the joy of it.

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: Folkiedave
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 04:37 PM

Hear hear.

We are lucky to have one of them in Sheffield

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: squeezyjohn
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 04:59 PM

Hi bfc,

I can confirm what other people here have guessed which is that we have no such policy - and have not been asked in the past 6 months about the support we have at any particular gig. We don't book our own supports as we can't afford to pay enough for someone to come out on the road with us apart from our sound man - if we have a support then it is nearly always the decision of the venues or promoters that book us.

If you would be kind enough to let me know the venue and date that you reckon this occurred then I'll look in to it and if it turns out that the venue has said this on our behalf then I'll speak to the promoter personally about this.

Maybe you'd have the decency to post the reply here once you've got all the facts straight - then this thread might not look like the mudslinging that it looks like to me at the moment. Next time you only have to email me - my address is easily findable on the web.

Cheers

John Spiers

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 05:29 PM

Hi John.
Heartily concur with your thoughts...
Bugger me, I've even done a support for you. (Mind you, you were late!!....Frinton?)

Nice Prom btw.

Later R

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: GUEST,martin ellison
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 05:49 PM

I knew this was apocryphal when I read it.

John - sadly this forum seems to have more than its' fair share of wind-up merchants and mud slingers.

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: mattkeen
Date: 25 Jul 08 - 04:47 AM

Great new album - downloaded day before yesterday.

Explanation: "downloading" is something done with a computer and an interclickwebo connection

Subject: RE: Spiers and Boden
From: GUEST,buspassed
Date: 25 Jul 08 - 04:48 AM

The Frinton gig sounds interesting Ralphie, did you get through Immigration Control at the level crossing without difficulty?!

Harwich for the Continent, Frinton for the...........